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Old news, from July of this year - https://100percentfedup.com/armed-antifa-terrorist-manifesto-reveals-inspiration-by-democrat-aoc/
Odd, I do a search for Willem Van Spronsen and there seem to be zero hits from the liberal mainstream media. Fox is the sixth hit, washingtontimes and washington post a ways down from Fox. Several lesser known sites cover him, like pacificpundit, thefederalist, legalinsurrection. There is no CNN, NBC, ABC - wait, back about three pages apnews.com - https://apnews.com/6bbb56a3887e46db80516a01858b5e75
ARMED ANTIFA TERRORIST Manifesto Reveals Inspiration By Democrat AOC
Yesterday, an armed self-described member of Antifa, Willem Van Spronsen, a was shot and killed by law enforcement officers after he threw explosives at an ICE detention center in Tacoma, WA.
Seattle Times reports that this was not Van Spronsen’s first run in with law enforcement tied to an immigration detention center
Van Spronsen’s manifesto was filled with radical rhetoric frequently heard coming from the leftist media and far-left Democrat U.S. Representatives like AOC, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
In this page of his manifesto, the Antifa terrorist adopts the term “concentration camps” used by Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY) to describe detention centers on our southern border used to house illegal aliens.
In this page of his manifesto, Van Spronsen uses a term used by another radical leftist, Michael Brown’s stepfather, who called on Black Lives Matter terrorists to “burn the motherf**ker down!”, a reference to burning down the city of Ferguson, MO, after Officer Wilson was exonorated in the highly charged “hands up, don’t shoot” case, that proved the whole “hands up don’t shoot” exchange never took place. He also cites the “Proud Boys,” a group that was formed to protect free speech advocates from the violent anti-free speech terror group, Antifa.
Finally, on this page, Willem Van Spronsen makes his allegience to Antifa known, saying: “i am antifa.” He also indicates that he is part of a trans community, as he identifies his “trans comrades” a term commonly used when referring to fellow communists.
Conservative, First Amendment defender and trial lawyer, Harmeet K. Dhillon tweeted a thread likening the John Brown Gun Club, “JBGC” to a gateway drug to the violent Antifa terror group. After independent journalist Andy Ngo was severely beaten by Antifa in Portland, OR, Dhillon agreed to defend him in his case against the brutal leftist terrorists.
The fact that leftist terrorists have killed few people is not a result of their more civilized, or humane conduct. It is a result of their incompetence to terrorize people.
I just stumbled over this damned fool, while searching for AOC Manifesto. That was the subject of discussion on talk radio this morning. AOC has written a manifesto. She can be expected to shoot up a school, or a gay bar, or a synagogue soon. How many other shooters first published a manifesto, then went out to kill as many people as possible before the law caught up to them? O'Crazio is certainly crazy enough to shoot up a school!!
Just read the manifesto - it's full of acts giving American wealth away to anyone who ambles up to the border, and demands it.
Enjoy a video -
https://www.newswars.com/aoc-unveils-manifesto-a-just-society-means-rent-control-abolish-prisons-welfare-for-all-illegals/
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:32PM (41 children)
How dare he almost hurt a building!
Meanwhile, right-wingers are Americas most deadly terrorists. [slate.com]
False equivalency is false. Wake me up when the people who are opposed to fascism actually hurt someone.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:40PM (35 children)
He threw firebombs at the sites propane tank. If he'd managed to set that off, many people would have died. Not just ICE agents either, mostly detainees.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:41PM (32 children)
People MIGHT have died.
Meanwhile, Heather Heyer DID die at the hands of a rightwing terrorist.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:45PM (27 children)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:46PM (26 children)
Jordan Anchondo - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
(Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:48PM (25 children)
Yes, whataboutism.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:55PM (24 children)
Rev. Clementa Pinckney - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Nope, just demonstrating your blatant false equivalency.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:59PM (23 children)
Anytime someone denounces violence from the left wing, they are inherently endorsing violence by the right wing, and vice versa?
It really must suck to live in your head.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:02PM (9 children)
Tywanza Sanders - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
In my world we focus on the people committing the most violence in order to reduce violence.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:11PM (8 children)
If you do, then drop the whataboutism. Suppress your tribal instinct to take every criticism of 'your guy' as a trigger to attack 'their guy.' Elevate your consciousness. Upgrade your paleolithic logic, even neolithic ppb would be an improvement. Lots of folks today have even managed to upgrade to bronze age logic you know?
If you want to reduce violence then take a principled stand against it, rather than a partisan one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3j_KXufPE
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:19PM (7 children)
Sharonda Singleton - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
You're right I should go on record and state that I am 100% opposed to attempted vandalism of a building.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:12PM (6 children)
You're spinning so hard you must be dizzy, it's absurd.
If you want to vandalise a building you pack light. A couple cans of spraypaint, good running shoes, no extra weight. You do it quick and you know your escape route.
This guy packed in his home-made AR, plenty of ammo for it, and several firebombs. And escaping was never part of his plan, this was planned as a suicide attack.
"Attempted vandalism of a building" you say.
I suspect it would be a waste of breath to try and get you to acknowledge that the ICE agents and the (deputies?) that responded are human beings whose lives have value, but I had to mention it anyway because it's actually true and important here. But fine, forget them.
What about those detained migrants? What about the men, women, and children inside that building that would have been burned, smashed, many likely dead, had that firebomb succeeded in igniting that propane tank as planned? Aren't these the people we're supposedly trying to help here? Just how does that make sense to you?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:40PM
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You are getting very lost here. Still waiting for condemnations of rightwing terrorism instead of bullshit excuses and apologies from conservatives, but instead we get outrage over a failed attack just because the attacker is liberal? And you want to get further outraged when someone points out the problems you've been ignoring WHILE ALSO condemning the liberal attack?
This is why you get insulted. Disingenuous self-serving bullshit, and as usual exactly the behavior conservatives accuse everyone else of.
It is getting old and tiresome trying to discuss reality with people who have no basis in it.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:41PM (4 children)
I understand DeathMonkey's point. We have to complain loudly about rightwing terrorists because they are actually competent. The leftwing terrorists just shoot themselves in the face.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:55PM (2 children)
Really? A bunch of people were NOT murdered by this right wing terrorist:
‘MAGA Bomber’ Cesar Sayoc sentenced to 20 years in prison for trying to kill Trump critics, including Obama, Clinton, Biden, Booker, Harris [cnbc.com]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:06PM (1 child)
Umm, hate to say it but that WAS their point. If they can't win they switch to making themselves superior which is the only reason in their minds that rightwing terrorists kill more people. Liberals just can't terrorize effectively I guess, though you'd never get that from Runaway's obsession.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:17PM
Rose Mallinger - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Of course it is! They've got no evidence for their claims of leftwing violence. They also have no evidence for the claims of failed leftwing attacks, other than this attempted vandalism.
Notice how they're attempting to make it true by just repeating it over and over.
Ask them for a list of victims: nothing.
Ask them for a list of attackers: nothing.
Ask them for a list of failed attacks: this single one that they keep posting over and over.
Evidence motherfuckers, do you have any?!?
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 09 2019, @03:26AM
We have to complain loudly about rightwing terrorists because they are actually competent.
On the contrary, they're sloppy and always get caught. Always a big scandal during and after on the front page.
"Left wingers" use professionals! You don't see any of them getting caught, do ya? Where's Jimmy Hoffa, eh? You think some right wing boob could do that job? Please!
There you go, run with that!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:30PM (12 children)
Anytime someone denounces violence from the left wing, they are inherently endorsing violence by the right wing, and vice versa?
Oh yes, he (and some silly ACs) says I am a republican because I criticize democrats.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:45PM (11 children)
Just because I disagreed with a specific (and flawed) anti-Trump argument, this NPC immediately assumed that I was a Republican and hated Obama.
I'm actually an independent who voted for Obama. Facts just don't penetrate NPC skulls I'm afraid.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:05PM
Rev. DePayne Middleton-Doctor - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
How dare they judge you based on the things you write!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:05PM (2 children)
It is because you use phrases like NPC which are right-wing gamer code words. The sheer volume of fact-ignoring shit posts on here shows the reality. Every group has its idiots and reactionaries, but "both sides" is not even close. At this point in time conservatives are the ones ignoring facts, hell you have been instructed to only believe the ministry of truth that is the White House and you STILL don't get it.
Fucking L A W L
(Score: 2, Informative) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:20PM (1 child)
Gamer? Fair. Right-wing? Not at all. How on earth could you even possibly conflate the two?
This idea that you can tell everything about someone by spotting 'code words' that they use or some other nonsense, it's sheer superstition, it's nonsense. It just makes you look more and more absurd as you get more and more hysterical about things that aren't real.
"At this point in time conservatives are the ones ignoring facts"
More paleolithic tribalism. Open your eyes up. Conservatives not the only ones ignoring facts.
"hell you have been instructed"
Yeah, again for the painfully slow reader here, I'm no conservative.
"to only believe the ministry of truth that is the White House"
Keep arguing with someone who isn't even here. It makes me lol.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:44PM
Right winger, libertarian, pseudo liberal, whatever. I can only deal with the topic at hand and your stated positions. The labels don't overly matter, but funny how that is all you can get mad about. Deflection, wooooo!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:40PM (5 children)
You know, I don't know what "NPC" means (yeah, I know it's some silly gamer shit, but it makes no sense), but I have a funny feeling you're trying to poke somebody with a stick. You seemed to have succeeded :-)
On their tribalism (republican and democrat, Tory and Labour, Shiite and Sunni, catholic and protestant), I think it's mostly nurtured, a cultural thing, not nature or genetic. Though there may be lingering DNA that facilitates tribalism when provoked. On the other hand, it is nature, and the cortex merely serves at the pleasure of the brain stem, to rationalize all the most primal desires and behavior. After all, these are people that tell us that making war is not murder.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:55PM (4 children)
You've never played any type of RPG? Role Playing Game?
I'll spare you as much detail as I can, but you'll either have one or several human players in this 'game world' however defined (could be traditional face to face tabletop or computer implemented in various ways) - and then you have all the other characters that need to exist in the world, from street urchins to shopkeepers to guards and so on, those are all NPCs. Non Player Characters. In traditional gameplay there's one person who doesn't play a character, but instead plays ALL the NPCs, and essentially provides the game world, much of it as improv. In a computer based system, the computer takes that role.
When it was face to face, the abilities of the NPCs might vary quite a bit depending on the GM, you can imagine. A really gifted GM could bring all sorts of different characters to life, but not everyone could do that with every character. And with computers - well there's no improv from a computer really. All the dialogue trees for the NPCs have to be written and placed in and there isn't any more to them. So they tend to be pretty horrible, stiff wooden cutouts with no depth who just repeat a few carefully chosen phrases and cannot otherwise be interacted with. This is one of the things that makes it so hard to do a good RPG on a computer. But anyway...
I suspect by now you grok why I called this AC an NPC.
"On their tribalism (republican and democrat, Tory and Labour, Shiite and Sunni, catholic and protestant), I think it's mostly nurtured, a cultural thing, not nature or genetic."
I would have agreed with you a few decades ago. Now I rather suspect it's a strong genetic presupposition that comes to the fore anytime nurture fails to quite strongly override it.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:06PM (1 child)
You've never played any type of RPG? Role Playing Game?
Only in front of guests, and the boss, I guess... Role playing is for the theater
No, I never got past Pong, which I still love. Even Pacman is too complex for me. Donkeykong? Forget it! Left, right, up, down, too many dimensions.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Wednesday October 09 2019, @09:36AM
Jesucristo.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:08PM
Yay gaslighting projection!
Ah well, doesn't matter what nonsense you want to distract yourselves with, people do pay attention to reality when they're being murdered by racist assholes.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:25PM
Bernice and Sylvan Simon - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
NPC: It's just that same obvious projection from conservatives. They get caught with a paid army of Russian astroturfers repeating their talking points. So, they just accuse us of what they're guilty of minus all that pesky evidence.
(Score: 2) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @09:15PM
Flawless logic!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:48PM (3 children)
Which part of "Heather Heyer was a communist activist who INTENDED to instigate violence" did you fail to understand? But, that does fit into my statement above. Leftist terrorists are incompetent, rightist terrorists are more competent. Whan a fascist or Nazi collides with a communist instigator, it's usually the commie who suffers.
And, no, I'm NOT siding with the neonazi. Once again, I assert that the US would be a better place if all those Nazis and Commies had killed each other that day.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:50PM (1 child)
Dave Johnson - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Amusing how quickly that free-speech stuff gets tossed out the window.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:27PM
Free speech has nothing to do with it. People just use that to scapegoat
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:33PM
um, all of it? Since it is not true, it is a right-wing talking point created by Russians and inserted into extremist (and violent) right-wing nut-job media like OAN and Runaway1958 on SoylentNews. They play you like a fiddle, Runaway! You really should be ashamed of being so easily manipulated. How can you be so stupid? Oh, right, it's the lack of education, isn't it? You need to go back to journal articles about huge clouds of insects and monkey wrenches, and arc-flashing clothing. At least those are boring and don't hurt anyone.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:52PM (1 child)
I wish we could sit DM on that tank.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:59PM
Cynthia Hurd - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
If that tank was situated according to code that would be the only way to kill someone by making it explode.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @12:15AM (3 children)
Intent doesn't count? Then you'll have to stop demonizing all those white supremacists, right?
And, oh yeah. You missed that "inspired by AOC" bit. Batshit crazy people inspire other batshit crazy people to do batshit crazy things.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 09 2019, @03:43AM (2 children)
Batshit crazy people inspire other batshit crazy people to do batshit crazy things.
Heh, Clinton/Trump... Thanks folks!
By the way. Here's another "I'm NOT running!" [twitter.com] campaign speech. (sorry for the twitter link)
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Sally_G on Wednesday October 09 2019, @04:42AM (1 child)
LOL - we should believe that she's ready to confess and explain all of her crimes?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 09 2019, @04:56AM
She is joined at the hips with the prez, it would be an interesting confession, wouldn't it?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday October 09 2019, @03:16PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/barack-obama-responsible-dallas-anti-cop-terror-ben-shapiro [dailywire.com]
Here's what a real black hero looks like.
https://people.com/celebrity/michael-jordan-donates-2-million-to-combat-police-and-anti-cop-violence/ [people.com]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:48PM (33 children)
Andre Anchondo - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Name a single person killed by the people opposed to fascism.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:50PM (26 children)
About 20 million in the USSR, and another 20 million in China, and another few million by Pol Pot, and must I really go on? How's life in Venezuela today?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:53PM (17 children)
Arturo Benavides - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
So you CAN'T name a single one?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:34PM (6 children)
This is good I think, they're realizing the right-wing terrorism is actually a real thing so they're only defense is whataboutism so they can transpose their guilt on to their political "enemies." A small shitty step, but that seems to be the only way they'll be dragged forward. Screaming and shitting their pants to make it unpleasant for the adults.
They think their own denial of reality is mirrored in liberals, failing to grasp that we condemn all the violence. They just can't wrap their heads around the concept of the USA where all are welcome. They see anyone different as the enemy. It is sad, but we need to support our rightwing terrorists, show them that they don't need to go down these roads. And it starts by reducing income inequality so they aren't stressed out by simple survival and thus projecting that stress on to whatever out-group they want to demonize.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:05PM (5 children)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:11PM (4 children)
Heh, and everything you link is just more fake news emotional manipulation garbage? Maybe the userbase here is just too old and brainwashed at this point, stuck in their feelings of superiority as nerds often do.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:41PM (3 children)
Neither liberals or conservatives associate with the far-left or the far-right. Todays far-left are corporatist and in denial of the implication.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:11PM (2 children)
Ooh, edge lord logic!
"Far left" is by definition anti-corporate, no big corp is excited about Universal Healthcare even though it would help the economy. Short sighted greed.
The "far right" is anyone who supports Trump at this point because he is actively encouraging domestic terrorism.
Woops, dumbass edge lord is parroting nonsense as usual to try and rewrite reality. You suck dumbass.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:49PM (1 child)
Actually, a lot of big corporations would love some form of universal healthcare. Because we would no longer have to spend money on it: no navigating health plans, assisting employees with claims, filling out massive paperwork, etc. But, while they would benefit from it going away, they aren't going to invest a lot of money investing in getting rid of it due to all the other ways they can get more bang for the buck. So instead, all the lobby money comes from the insurance companies, major provider networks, pharmaceutical companies, and industry groups.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @12:45AM
Seems plausible: Lobbying Ranked Sectors 1998-2019 [opensecrets.org].
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:38PM (9 children)
Right-wing terrorist or crazed lunatic?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism [wikipedia.org]
Perhaps, instead of saying, my side good, that side bad. You realize, that there's crazy views on both sides and people who do horrible things in support of their views.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:05PM (8 children)
Irving Younger - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
If "both sides are bad" then where is the list of dead people at the hands of the lefties.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Tuesday October 08 2019, @09:29PM (7 children)
There's a reason why they cut-off the left-wing vs right-wing terrorism attacks.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/opinions/leftist-terrorism-bergen-sterman-opinion/index.html [cnn.com]
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/domestic-terror-threats-media-mislead-alt-right-leftists-anti-cop-jihadists/ [nationalreview.com]
Why is it so hard to come up with names? Blame the media.
Going on and on about how the one side is the bad side and no one on my side ever killed anyone or barely any killing was done; is short sighted. Extremist murders are a problem from both sides. It's just that right-wing terrorism is more of a problem now, than left-wing terrorism. The problem is terrorism and murdering innocent or even not so innocent people. Spouting hate, only drives the wedge between the two parties even more. Perhaps, we should go back to how congress worked back in the old days.
Then again, maybe they never truly left:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_violence#United_States [wikipedia.org]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @09:54PM (5 children)
Joyce Fienberg - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Really? If one side never killed anybody then extremist murders are DEFINITELY NOT a problem from both sides.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Sally_G on Wednesday October 09 2019, @04:56AM (3 children)
From your list, we might forget how many Democrats are invested in the military-industrial complex. Please - own your own list of dead, all around the world. How many Dems voted to invade Afghanistan? How many voted to invade Iran? How many were happy to stay the course in Vietnam?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-profits-taint-the-greedy-hands-of-more-than-25-of-members-of-the-us-house-and-senate/8920 [globalresearch.ca]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-military-industrial-congressional-complex-is-holding-our-national-security-back/2019/03/14/212bdc6a-4695-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:11PM (2 children)
We end up talking past one another because the center-right don't count the far-right as their own and the center-left ignore the far-left and neo-cons (hawkish liberals). If we ignore Islamist terrorism, right wing terrorism is more deadly but the left commit more numerous and frequent lower level acts (eg: harassing republicans in restaurants, turning up outside their homes). According to common definitions of terrorism that the left conveniently ignore as much as modern Western terrorism grew from French anarchists, hardly right-wing. When it comes to state sponsored murder, there's no competition - communism kills. Everyone here should be able to argue in good faith about all of this, alas, $current_year.
Also, the spam mods against DeathMonkey need reversing.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:05PM (1 child)
Spam mods? I haven't noticed any - maybe they've been fixed. Moderators should act responsible. Spam modding DM is irresponsible. I detest the man's dogged determination to put his party ahead of common sense, but he's no spammer.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:15PM
They've been fixed. Looked like some idiot gave DM all their mod points as spam. May be worth limiting that moderation option to users with > 35 karma to prevent abuse by burner accounts.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:57PM
Wow, cherry picking much? I can admit to right-wing extremists being contemptible, but can you do the same with Antifa?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) [wikipedia.org]
How about the Black Panthers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Torture-murder_of_Alex_Rackley [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Shoot-out_with_the_US_Organization [wikipedia.org]
What do you think is the end result of hate? Cooperation? Hardly, hate begets hate.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10 2019, @08:45PM
But, as John Rambo said, "They drew First Blood!"
Firken Trump-supporting
MexicanMinnesotan cops [bringmethenews.com]!(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:39PM (7 children)
Hahaha
Every time liberals compare the US to socialist democracies you say "nuh uh you can't compare, different size and cultures" but then it is totally fine to compare US liberals to fascist dictstorships that were disguised as communist governments that threw around the term socialist. I know history and political terminology is hard, but that doesn't absolve you of responsibility to the truth.
Paaaaaathetic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:48PM (3 children)
"It wasn't real communism"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:56PM (1 child)
When you have a leader who can summarily execute swathes of the population, no, that is not actually communism or socialism. But facts don't matter to suckers like you as long as there is a loophole you can abuse to make a seemingly valid stupid point.
Tell me more how the *cough* god emperor is not a fascist piece of shit?
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/08/trump-organization-rejects-legal-bill-after-losing-windfarm-court-battle [theguardian.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:07PM
that is not actually communism or socialism [pics.me.me]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 09 2019, @03:53AM
That's right...
It's a Democratic People's Republic.
Says right there, gotta be true
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:11PM (2 children)
Uh-huh - but the thing you are missing is this: American "socialists" are also authoritarians. They want so very badly to write laws, telling everyone what is permissible, and what is not permissible. Bitch-o O'Rourke promised he was coming for our guns, thus triggering every potential presidential candidate on the D side to compete for the most comprehensive gun control plan.
A liberal doesn't think that I should own weapons, so he promises to come get them. Hmmmm. Why doesn't Bitch-o come get them PERSONALLY? No, he won't do that, because he's not a socialist at all. He's full of socialist-sounding promises, until he has the POWER to enforce his will on people. Very much like Russia, China, Germany, and Cambodia. Socialists are just authoritarians and fascists in disguise.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @08:03PM
Yer an old outdated moron spewing lies and propaganda. Moron because you apparently don't even realize it!
Btw did you ever solve that pesky Russia Russia collusion confusion I'm not the puppet you're the puppet? No? Still fucking dumb as shit? Ok, carry on you ignorant cunt.
(Score: 1, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @09:12PM
Hello fren,
Why you bitch on Beto on international lesbian day? [twitter.com]
As for the journal entry??? We on the morally and intellectually superior left keep explaining to you that Antifa terrorism just does not exist. [twitter.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:50PM (5 children)
Name a single antifa person who is not a fascist. They hit every check box except fashion choices, though they do confuse things a bit by using the wildcard form of nationalism that is globalism.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:07PM (2 children)
Melvin Wax - Murdered by a rightwing terrorist
Name a single antifa person who has actually hurt someone.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:37PM (1 child)
Pointless exercise [mises.org]
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @09:24PM
Ah yes, all examples of assault and not murder. I don't think you want rightwing assaults as that will shift it so far right that liberal violence will be unnoticeable.
Props for that insane image link, only real nutters deal in that garbage.
And the 3rd link is obviously some rightwing incels assaulting minorities in a false flag attack.
Your 4th link? Man pleads guilty to assault, I guess liberal really do have more backbone and personal responsibility after all!
Thanks for proving everything DM is saying :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:20PM
Bwaaaaah antiiiiffaaaaaa!
pathetic loser you are
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:12AM
Joe.
Joe is a quiet, thoughtful, gentle person. However, when his country called him, he went to bomb the hell out of actual facists in WWII. Nowadays, he is still anti-fascist, and has been known to punch a neo-nazi in the face, in the most peaceful and non-violent manner possible. The Nazis were better off for it, in both instances.
And there are a lot of Joes, not all of them named "Joe", if you know what I mean.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:09PM (1 child)
I think Runaway is very confused about his feelings...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:26AM
Oh, no, he's perfectly in touch with his feelings. It's reality he's lost his bearings in.
Isn't it fucking amazing how he'll pull this one out but ignore the literally hundreds of right-wing attacks of violence we've had in this country this year alone? He's so full of shit I'm amazed he doesn't have a permanent, personal cloud of flies...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Informative) by shortscreen on Tuesday October 08 2019, @11:04PM (9 children)
The most informative part of this journal entry is that you listen to talk radio. Is that when you came up with the wild idea that AOC could go on a shooting spree?
Extremist rhetoric being cited by extremists should not be surprising. Only the hyperpartisan would think this is unique. Of course, that may include the MSM...
While not wanting to "enjoy" a video, I had a hunch that the link might have some other information, so I followed it and found this additional link: https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/ajs [house.gov]
Is this what you're calling a terrorist manifesto? There are six proposed legislative actions that I will crudely summarize as:
1) adjusting the federal poverty line
2) welfare for illegals
3) promoting "worker-friendly" gov. contractors
4) more meddling in the housing market
5) welfare for convicts
6) ratifying some UN thing
Looks like standard leftist stuff, except maybe number 2 which has no chance to pass and is only there for pandering.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 08 2019, @11:28PM (8 children)
We already HAVE the welfare for illegals. https://nypost.com/2018/03/10/cutting-welfare-to-illegal-aliens-would-pay-for-trumps-wall/ [nypost.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday October 09 2019, @12:16AM (7 children)
That says (mainly) that non-citizen parents are collecting payments on behalf of their children who are citizens, a situation that follows naturally from birthright citizenship. Extending eligibility explicitly to non-citizens across the board, not just fraudsters or people who find a loophole, is a different thing. And also a pointless one IMO, might as well jettison the administrative overhead and go right to UBI. A little mental arithmetic says that you'd only have to redirect at most 8% of the money that the Fed is already printing and handing out to banks.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 09 2019, @12:28AM (6 children)
Let us bear in mind that the whole anchor baby scheme is based on a horrible intentional misinterpretation of the law. https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html [14thamendment.us] The author of that law spelled out explicitly that the children of illegal aliens were NOT to be granted citizenship.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:45AM (4 children)
It's too bad that his idea is not what the 14th Amendment actually says.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:00AM (3 children)
Maybe you should read the discussions around the 14th. The amendment was discussed in depth before passage. It is clear from congress' discussions that very few if any of them intended for illegal aliens to take advantage of this country through this amendment.
The amendment has been corrupted by bleeding heart liberals.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:25AM (2 children)
Because there was no such thing as "illegal" immigrants when the document was drafted, nor when the Amendment was promulgated, unless you want to count all those damn Europeans that somehow snuck into America illegally.
Only Stone-cold insane Nativists would think that birthright citizenship is not what it is. I, for one, stand with Abraham Lincoln and his Free Soil Party, against the fascist stirrings of the Neo-Whigs, who are trying to lead the Country into a Civil War, where the South Will Lose Again!!
(Any day is a good day for a new acronym: SWLAs! Dead-enders? Post-war German Lone Wolves? Rebel scum outlaws like Quantrill and his ragtag band of guerillas, who need to be shot down like the mad dogs they are. Time to call Django, again? )
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:17PM (1 child)
Abe would kick you to the curb if you showed your face. He'd kick you again for kiddy diddling. Then he'd kick your mama for having given you life.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday October 09 2019, @06:39PM
And your mamma, . . . if I were not too much of a genteman, . . ., is so fat, that, well, . . . I am too much of a gentleman.
So in the words of Spock, "Double Dumbass to you!" Truly the level of insults on SoylentNews is much reduced of late. I blame the influx of slavers and racists, and incel libertarians. They do not have the creative skill to produce witty and telling derision. Particularly apparent amoungst ACs.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @05:18AM
I am starting a petition to revoke the birthright citizenship of one "Runaway1956", on the grounds that he is a traitor to his country by aiding and abetting Russian propaganda, that his medical expenses were paid for by all Americans with no reciprocal benefit being returned from same, and that the po' boy is fucked in the haid. Who want to lay down their John Handcock?
#ImpeachRunaway!!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:01AM
wswswsws (ICFI) says DSA (i.e. AOC) is not socialism.... CWI Majority/Socialist Alternative (US) (Bernie fans [worldsocialist.net]) says, need new left party [worldsocialist.net]. DSA says, 2019 Convention: A World to Win [dsausa.org]:
Over on old CWI (Secretariat iirc) AOC, Kshama, and Seattle Renters Agree: We Need Rent Control [socialistalternative.org]
Warren plug: Why Millennial Socialists Aren’t Into Elizabeth Warren [theatlantic.com].
And note the death toll of right-wing terrorism.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10 2019, @07:33AM (1 child)
So, I come along to this journal, and what do I find but an AR-15 (not an actual military designation, just so all of you alleged gun-nuts know that I know) stuck up the butt of the Old Navy Runaway! Not surprising, those swabies never could get themselves sorted around armaments, unless it was more that 22mm AKFLACK. But no grumbling there. Then I find the Runaway disrespecting the anti-fa? Yo, you shellback, if you actually are one, do you not know who the real anti-fa are? We, the US Miltary Forces, are the anti-fa, because we fought those bastards back in the day. And now you throw down with the Nazis? I invite you to come down to the VFW in Nashville. We will have a nice reception showing you how we treat people who sympathize with fascism. C'mon, Runaway! It'll be Fun! Promise! Come alone, unarmed, just for security's sake.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10 2019, @10:17PM
Oooh, called out to a veterans club. I'm sure he'll get right on down there to have a gentlemanly discussion where he either learns a few things or gets his ass beat. I'd prefer the former, a nutter like runaway probably has quite a few nutter friends he could help back to sanity.