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Howard wrote “that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.” https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html

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Sunday December 01, 19
09:10 AM
News

An outsider's opinion:

Guest Post by Thaisleeze

Living on the opposite side of the world to the USA I am obliged to follow American politics as a stone thrown into the Washington swamp sends ripples that reach this far. With less than a year to go until the next presidential election it is time to assess the current political landscape.

Trump of course is the focus of massive media noise. This must be ignored if a rational analysis is to be produced. 2016 proved that opinion polls must also be ignored. As things stand today Trump holds the following chips in his stack:

*He is the incumbent

*The official employment numbers are in his favor

*The official economic numbers are in his favor

*His Republican approval is over 90%

*His Hispanic/black approval ratings are at record levels for a Republican

*He has made a dent in the illegal immigration problem

*He has not started any new wars

*Both Trump and the RNC are raking in record amounts of campaign cash

*He will have the vote of most people with a 401(k) account

*He will have the vote of most people in the military

*He is in control of the social media narrative

*He pushed the concept of the deep state and fake news into the mainstream

*Democrat controlled cities are clearly in serious decline

*He forced the DNC to defend their lunatic far left fringe and embrace their views

*He forced the Democrats into the farcical impeachment process

*The Democrats have little cash on hand

*The Democrats do not have a viable policy platform

*The Democrats do not currently have a viable contender for the nomination

Probably the most important fact we have learned since the election of Trump is that the deep state does exist in America and that it is a massively powerful hand on the tiller of American policy. It has also become abundantly clear that this faction was strongly opposed to the policies Trump ran on in 2016 and that they have tried to impede him ever since he announced his candidacy. It is not unreasonable to conclude that this faction does not wish Trump to win re-election. The question then becomes how far are they prepared to go in stopping him.

The most obvious way to stop Trump would be at the the ballot box. However, given the factors outlined above this is a long shot bet. None of the declared Democrat candidates can beat him. Hillary Clinton would fail again. A Republican cannot unseat him. Obama has been keeping a very low profile, it is possible that his wife Michelle could win, if she could be persuaded to run. Oprah?

What would turn the world of Trump upside down would be a financial crisis of a similar magnitude to 2008, or a major dollar collapse (Putin said last week the dollar would collapse soon). If there were a consensus among the deep state to take such action it would be incredibly easy for them to achieve given the highly unstable fabric of markets today.

The corporate credit markets could be pushed into panic by Jamie Dimon alone if he wished such an outcome and had the blessing of his buddies. Indeed, the cynic might argue that the groundwork has been laid since the start of the repo problem in mid September and the launching of QE4. Last time around the patsie was Lehman, has Deutsche Bank been singled out to take the fall this time? Time is running short for this to be an option, a crisis must be in play by spring next year to stymie the Orange Man.

The third way Trump could be stopped does not bare thinking about but it happened before to JFK 56 years ago.

Epstein did not kill himself.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/only-3-ways-stop-trump-2020
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/11/29/only-3-ways-to-stop-trump-2020/

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:36AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:36AM (#926670)

    Trash journal from trash poster. The only way to keep Trump from being elected again is to keep Trump voters off the rolls by requiring a literacy and basic knowledge test. All Fox News viewers will fail. Including this raving runaway.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:57AM (#926673)

      Mod parent optimistic.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:00PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:00PM (#926683)

      did yo' mama have any kids that lived?

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:32PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:32PM (#926689)

        Trump and his puppetmaster/puppet Bolton has destroyed 70 years of poastwar peace and decency.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:17PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:17PM (#926695)

          Non-peace and polite fakery.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:15AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:15AM (#926677)

    Why not run a candidate against him with a platform that actually appeals to people?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:59AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:59AM (#926682) Homepage Journal

      That idea seems to be anathema to both parties.

      Funny you should mention "platform". Do any of the dem hopefuls actually have a platform? Most of them seem to be a few planks short of a platform. If any of them has a genuine platform, it would have to be Gabbard. sarcasm Well, of course SHE would have a platform, supplied by her Russian handlers /sarcasm And, if you doubt that, just ask Hillary!!

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:01PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:01PM (#926684)

      All or most of the Democratic candidates think that they are appealing candidates running with appealing platforms.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:07PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @12:07PM (#926685)

        Half the country isn't going to vote, half of what's left will vote republican, and half of those who vote democrat will do so no matter what the platform is. So evidence shows their platform appeals to 0.5*0.5*0.5 =12.5% of Americans at best.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:20PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:20PM (#926699)

          And only about 72% are eligible voters.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 01 2019, @03:50PM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday December 01 2019, @03:50PM (#926750) Journal

      Wishful thinking at this point unfortunately. The Democrats are split right down the middle, and one half of them--the half with all the power and money--is basically the not-completely-insane-yet faction of the GOP. We The People very clearly want and need Sanders, but even Obama is on record saying he'll sabotage the process if Sanders gets the nomination.

      The trauma of losing to Nixon in '72 seems to have motivated the controlling interests in the D party to rip out the populist engine that powered their machine.

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      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:28PM

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:28PM (#926768) Journal

        The trauma of losing to Nixon in '72 seems to have motivated the controlling interests in the D party to rip out the populist engine that powered their machine.

        Correction, it was '68, and before they lost to Nixon. In fact, it's why they lost to Nixon, could even be considered intentional, since it's not really a "loss". The power sharing structure remains intact to this day. Nobody even peeks outside the box.

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      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:43PM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:43PM (#926853) Homepage

        The people do not want fucking Sanders, they want Tulsi. The only people who want Sanders are Mexican gimme-gimmes and young college kids who vote by peer pressure.

        Tulsi has what it takes: The minority card, the female card, the military card, the moderate card, the antiwar card, etc. Bernie has a lackluster political career of doing basically nothing and cucking out to the Hillary goon squad. If I were Bernie, I would have run as independent as soon as I knew for sure the meth-snorting gay-Black-prostitute-killing DNC delegates were going to annoint Hillary no matter what.

        Though I really do feel bad for Bernie, he cucked out to Hillary literally at gunpoint. People who get on the wrong side of Hillary usually end up on the wrong side of a daisy patch.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:32PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:32PM (#926869) Journal

          He has a job because he is one of the best sheepdogs in the business. Only the people that keep giving him money [all of which becomes tribute to the DNC] haven't figured that out.

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          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:04PM (17 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:04PM (#926692) Journal

    1) Vote him out
    2) Force an economic crisis (leading to 1)
    3) Assassinate

    1 is considered unlikely due to various factors.
    Impeachment is not considered as a serious option.

    - - - - -
    I would note that the constant drumbeat of the media criticizing the president at unprecedented levels is a new phenomena that is not considered and should not be ignored to discard the first option. It is a fight he chose and was very effective motivating his base in the last election, however did not help in the midterms. How it plays after 3 1/2 years going into a second election remains to be seen.

    I agree impeachment is not a serious option. Regardless of motivation and validity of charges, it has no chance in the senate.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:41PM (#926705)
      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @02:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @02:26PM (#926716)

        On the bright side, if the machines don't elect a straight DNC ticket we will know they were hacked by Rus.

    • (Score: 1, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:26PM (14 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:26PM (#926767) Homepage Journal

      Regardless of motivation and validity of charges, it has no chance in the senate.

      I disagree. I think, or at least hope, that if the impeachment inquisitions had turned up real evidence of treasonous conduct, the senate would vote for conviction. Of course, the senate would demand that "treasonous conduct" met the definitions found in various dictionaries, such as Webster's and Oxford. No made some up bullshit dictionary that defies all logic.

      --
      Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:29PM (12 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:29PM (#926823)

        It has turned up the evidence, you just continue listening to corrupt assholes promise you that these crimes are "No Big Deal."

        It astounds me that you conservatives are so easily programmed by Murdoch & Friends. At the very least you should put together 2 + 2. Here, let me take you through it.

        (Trump is accused of crimes and denies the events even happen) + (evidence comes out and he says "no big deal") = He is a guilty liar

        It is dead simple, turn your brain back on and realize you're being suckered by the GOP to benefit the billionaire class to STEAL from YOU and prevent policies like Universal Healthcare that would help you and yours by PROPERLY taxing the billionaires.

        2 + 2 = 4 buddy

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:37PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:37PM (#926825)

          Universal Healthcare that would help you and yours by PROPERLY taxing the billionaires.

          Why would this help people more than the current shitty 10x overpriced "healthcare"?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:43PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:43PM (#926838)

            herpderp imma no gunna unnerstan swimple fwacts

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:05PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:05PM (#926846)

              You are probably spending thousands to tens of thousands a year for people to poison you...

        • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:47PM (8 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:47PM (#926830) Homepage Journal

          I listened to the "evidence". If you speak English, you should understand that there is no damning evidence. Seriously, go get a dictionary, and parse all the terms you hear in those hearings.

          I'll admit that it's a bit tough, in some cases, because some dick said one thing in front of media cameras, then something a little different under oath. What Dick had to say in front of the cameras doesn't count. Only his sworn testimony under oath counts.

          I'll admit that it's also a bit tough, in that, talking heads jump on a sentence, or even a phrase, during the testimony, and hold it up as the smoking gun. But, go back, and listen to the same testimony in it's entirety, and the story is entirely different.

          See my sig. Do a search on Youtube or similar for her name, Elise Stefanik, and "impeachment inquiry". Listen to her. She tore the Dems new assholes. That woman is nobody's fool. And, to top it all off, SHE DOESN'T EVEN APPROVE OF TRUMP!!! She was simply doing her job. What a breath of fresh air - damned near nobody in Washington D.C. actually does their job!

          --
          Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:54PM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @09:54PM (#926842)

            lolololol

            Identity politics at its peak, I read the various articles and she has nothing other than "I see no evidence" which makes her just another corrupt asshole. You're trying to sell hatred of Trump, I saw that from a DNC talking head on a Bill Maher(?) clip with the reasoning "but we both hate Trump" like that meant the other person should just agree with him.

            The evidence is clear, 2+2 you ignoramus. Obstruction of justice (clear and factual), political abuse of power (clear and factual), soliciting foreign invasion in our political system (clear and factual), intentional collusion (clear but not quite strong enough for factual certainty, collusion being the hardest to prove), breaches of national security (clear, not criminal as it was at discretion of POTUS), pulling out of Syria (abandoning allies, likely for personal enrichment of POTUS, hard to prove criminal intent), corrupt nepotism (duuuuh, emoluments rules seem to mean nothing to you asshats), personal enrichment of $millions using Trump properties (corruption).

            So what you've made clear to me is that you don't give a shit about facts. You don't give a shit about integrity. You want to "win" even if it means supporting criminal corruption that is beyond blatantly obvious. You are parroting a media campaign that will normalize this corruption and usher in true fascism where those in power don't even need to pretend we have freedom of anything.

            You sir are a useful idiot.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:14PM (6 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:14PM (#926849) Homepage Journal

              Whatever. Fact seems to be, though, that the D's are giving up on impeachment, and they're just going to shake their fingers at Trump. You know, and I know, if the D's could make a strong case, they would press ahead with the impeachment, DESPITE the Senate being held by R's.

              I've already said that if presented with strong evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors", the Senate would probably convict - or at least I would hope so.

              There is no case, and the most diehard of Dems in Washington have given up. You may choose between the red pill, or the blue pill, of course, and you may wash it down with whatever flavor of Kool-Aid you prefer.

              --
              Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
              • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:47PM

                by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:47PM (#926854) Homepage

                They haven't given up, they're just going to make whatever noise they can rather than work with Trump to get shit done. And make themselves look stupider and stupider in the process.

                What would really be awesome is if we see defections from Democrat to Independent or maybe even Republican. That's what I would do if a bunch of sexual deviant gun-running meth-smoking politicians who co-opted my party told me I have to toe their party line.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:19AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:19AM (#926888)

                Whatever.

                No, High crimes and misdemeanors! Gonna look bad on Trump's record. First his reality TV show gets poor ratings, and is Cancelled, and then he gets a new acting job, and finally he has jinxed "Bama. Crimson Tide is loosing! Everything Trump touches dies.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @01:24AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @01:24AM (#926908)

                Blah blah blah I don't wanna face facts blah blah blah

                You may be right about the dems, many of them are in the corporate pockets all tied up with the GOP corruption. But that doesn't excuse your lack of spine and constant support for a criminal president.

                AKA you suck elephant balls

                • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 02 2019, @06:17AM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 02 2019, @06:17AM (#927007) Homepage Journal

                  AKA, the populist president is popular, and you can't unseat him.

                  AKA, he's not half as bad as Dems paint him to be.

                  AKA, he's still plenty bad, but as long as he is causing apoplexy among the ancient, dried up, corrupt, and senile Dems, he serves some good purpose.

                  --
                  Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 02 2020, @04:07AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 02 2020, @04:07AM (#952634)

                Fact seems to be, though, that the D's are giving up on impeachment, and they're just going to shake their fingers at Trump.

                What rock have you been hiding under the past couple of months? Perhaps you hadn't noticed but the Democrats did NOT "give up" on impeachment. In fact, this past week there was a (sham) trial in the Senate with precisely ZERO witnesses called. In the next couple of days it is expected that Trump will almost certainly be acquitted of all charges, on a party-line vote. (Care to guess which party holds the majority in the Senate?)

                You know, and I know, if the D's could make a strong case, they would press ahead with the impeachment, DESPITE the Senate being held by R's.

                I know no such thing. It looks to me like the Republicans in Congress are determined to follow their Demagogue in Chief, even if it means destroying the Republic.

                I've already said that if presented with strong evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors", the Senate would probably convict - or at least I would hope so.

                I think your hope is in vain. Republicans have put party above country, much to their shame.

                There is no case, and the most diehard of Dems in Washington have given up. You may choose between the red pill, or the blue pill, of course, and you may wash it down with whatever flavor of Kool-Aid you prefer.

                Yes, yes, yes. I'm sure you see yourself as the clear-eyed, no-nonsense realist who will brook no foolishness. In reality, you are a senile old goat. No one should be surprised at this point.

      • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Monday December 02 2019, @12:59AM

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 02 2019, @12:59AM (#926901) Journal

        Poor phrasing perhaps.
         
        That was mostly an attempt to dodge a fruitless argument over whether the current inquiry has any validity or is just politically motivated. Maybe a better way would be to have stated that With the evidence currently on display, impeachment stands no chance in the Republican led Senate, or something similar.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @02:53PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @02:53PM (#926729)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/30/opinion/sunday/progressive-candidates-conservative-values.html [nytimes.com]

    To beat President Trump in the 2020 election, what sort of policies should a Democratic nominee promote?

    Two theories dominate. One says that he or she should run to the left, focusing on energizing the party’s base. This strategy, exemplified by Elizabeth Warren’s and Bernie Sanders’s campaigns, appears plausible given the base’s recent progressive turn.

    The other theory says that a nominee should run to the center, making a bid for swing voters. This strategy, exemplified by the short-notice candidacy of the former Republican Michael Bloomberg, is supported by research on the electoral perils of ideological extremism.

    But both of these theories neglect the fact that there is more to a candidate than his or her policies. As the political scientists Christopher Ellis and James Stimson have observed, a candidate’s policies can be distinguished from his or her “symbolic politics” — the values or ideology (like “family” or “social justice” or “going rogue”) that a candidate explicitly espouses or implicitly represents.

    An influential analysis of national polling data by Professors Ellis and Stimson suggests that the most effective candidate in a national election would combine the most popular feature of the Democratic Party, progressive economic policies, with the most popular feature of the Republican Party: the invocation of conservative ideology and values like patriotism, family and the “American dream.”

    [...]To investigate these questions we conducted two experiments, one using a nationally representative sample of Americans, in which we looked at Americans’ support for “Scott Miller,” a hypothetical 2020 Democratic nominee. The participants in our studies were presented with excerpts from Scott Miller’s speeches — but we systematically varied the content of the speeches to analyze the effects of policy platform and symbolic politics.

    We found that the most effective Democratic candidate would speak in terms of conservative values while proposing progressive economic policies — with some of our evidence suggesting that endorsing highly progressive policies would be best.

    [...]Our studies found that the degree of support for Scott Miller wasn’t much affected by whether his policy platform was highly progressive or more moderate. Overall, people showed a slight preference for the highly progressive candidate, but this result was small and statistically significant only in one of our studies.

    What mattered far more was how Scott Miller talked about those policies. We found that when he spoke of his platform in terms of conservative values like patriotism, family and the American dream, he consistently drew more support than did the Scott Miller who couched those same policies in more liberal values like economic justice and compassion.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @03:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @03:13PM (#926741)

      Idiots are using NHST to run their campaigns. This is why the DNC appears retarded to normal people, eg this farcical impeachment.

  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:21PM (14 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday December 01 2019, @04:21PM (#926762) Journal

    There ya go. Easy as pie. And she'll bring back some class. Even if she doesn't drain the swamp, she'll take down the sleaze a notch. What qualifies her the most is that she doesn't appear to want the job, puts her way above the rest. Draft Oprah, and prove the system works.

    The guy's handle is pretty goofy. But the outsiders' view are frequently the correct ones, pretty much pegged it, not that it's difficult in this case, and the viewpoint is not that uncommon amongst most "outsiders".

    The only thing that can upset the apple cart is non-voters and real liberals getting up and sweeping them all out with independents. Without them, it's four more years of same-old, same-old, with or without *Trump*, along with your perfectly divided 50 - 50 congress to make the bickering look legitimate.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:00PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:00PM (#926810)

      You're an idiot pushing idiocy, probably because you're a secret Trumper. All your oblique support of Trump says that is true, despite your immediate denials. Propaganda bullshit from a budding fascist.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:08PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:08PM (#926860)

        Oh please! Shirley you can do better. Find some new material...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:21AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:21AM (#926890)

          But Kid Rock is not longer a Kid, and he can't Rock anymore, and he is a racist twit. A cat must've scratched him.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:28AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:28AM (#926948)

          Until fustakrakack stops agenda trolling there is no other point to be made.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @12:27AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @12:27AM (#927907)

            You poor poor democrats. I'm sure you work for the other side, and they for yours.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 02 2019, @11:27PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 02 2019, @11:27PM (#927413) Homepage Journal

          New material has to come from the top - and Soros is still working on it.

          --
          Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:52PM (7 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:52PM (#926856) Homepage

      Oh, that would play right into Trump's hands. Have you seen all those photos with a happy Oprah with a happy Harvey Weinstein? [newsapi.com.au] If there's any reason why Oprah's gonna join the race it's because she knows she's fucked as a madam for providing girls to Weinstein and other Hollywood perverts.

      There's a common "conspiracy theory" that claims that more people are going to come out of the woodwork to run for president so that they can claim Trump is abusing his power to go after all of his rivals, when the dirt on these so-called "rivals" begins to surface.

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:20PM (6 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:20PM (#926864) Journal

        Damn! That sucks... The business is that dirty. Who can we turn to then? I mean, even there she is still better than anybody else on the ballot.

        Is there anyone on board who knows how to run a country? [youtube.com]

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:41PM (5 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:41PM (#926872) Journal

          Yes, I know, Tulsi, but why does she stick to the DNC? Will she ever bust out and be a candidate?

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          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:26AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:26AM (#926894)

            Tulsi, . . . Will she ever bust out and be a candidate?

            Oh, but she is, she is a Manchurian Candidate [themarysue.com]!

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday December 02 2019, @12:36AM (2 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday December 02 2019, @12:36AM (#926898) Journal

              Yes, but how does that compare to the ruling cult?

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @07:41AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @07:41AM (#927027)

                Not a bat-shit crazy homophobic ex-surfer who thinks that Hari Khrisnas have put out a hit on him, and tried to compromat a sitting US Senator? And More other Crazy shit? Really, really crazy shit? The man has no neck!

                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday December 03 2019, @06:22AM

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday December 03 2019, @06:22AM (#927557) Journal

                  Well, since all we have on the menu is bat-shit crazy, let's go for the one with a bit of color, wouldn't you agree?

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 02 2020, @04:14AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 02 2020, @04:14AM (#952635)

            You are replying to yourself. Did you forget to turn your sock puppet on?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @07:56PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @07:56PM (#926809)

    The only candidate with a proven track record of supporting the working class.

    We have class warfare, the rich versus the poor, and the middle class is merely a dream at this point easily destroyed by a single medical crisis.

    If you don't support Sanders then you are a sociopath who would rather continue the status quo than build a supportive society. Ignorance would be the only valid excuse, and no one who reads this site has not had the facts laid out to them.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:41PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @08:41PM (#926829)

      If you don't support Sanders then you are a sociopath who would rather continue the status quo than build a supportive society.

      So you agree Obama was a fascist sociopath?

      Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-bernie-sanders-2020-nomination_n_5ddd31a1e4b00149f724793b [huffpost.com]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:04PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:04PM (#926845)

        Yes.

        Droning US citizens, increasing the mass surveillance, continuing the fascist policies of the patriot act.

        Yes, Obama was another in a long line of corporatist politicians with nice words and little of substance. He promised to improve healthcare, and while the ACA did help out some people it was mostly a giveaway to the insurance companies by punishing people for not maintaining incredibly costly health insurance.

        So again, yes. Did you expect that to be a gotcha?

        Sanders 2020! He is consistently honest and supports the vast majority people and not the tiny minority.

        All conservatives fear is some kind of "socialism" they've been trained to freak out about, but we've seen many other capitalistic countries implement UH for less $/person with better outcomes. The rich don't want their taxes to return to sane levels so they push propaganda to keep you afraid and not supporting those who would actually help you.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:08PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:08PM (#926847)

          Yes.

          Good. Next is for you to realize no one running as a republicrat will ever possibly hold the answer to the problems posed by the current fascist US state.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:34AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:34AM (#926954)

            No, YOU need to realize that the problem is not with the political parties themselves but the corporste media brainwashing the masses into fighting each other. Any single politician can stand for whst is right, no matter which party they associate with. Support Sanders and any others who pledge to back real solutions, spreading apathy is unhelpful and is a tactic used to manipulate voters. Maybe you are sincere but I doubt it.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @04:14AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @04:14AM (#926975)

              Good luck voting for your favorite republicrat! I'm sure it will finally change everything this time!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @10:11PM (#926848)

          And if you think giving the federal government *even more* of a role in healthcare is going to help things then you haven't been paying attention. They will make it less valuable and more expensive. Just like 100% of past experience has shown.

          In fact, they will probably take the UH money and spend it on NBC weapon research that leaks into the environment and causes widespread chronic health conditions. Then they will falsify the budget to say they were spending it on healthcare for babies or whatever. Read this and understand it: https://constitution.solari.com/fasab-statement-56-understanding-new-government-financial-accounting-loopholes/ [solari.com]

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:51PM (4 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday December 01 2019, @11:51PM (#926878) Journal

        I never liked Obama much. He had my vote because, Jesus haploid Christ, did you SEE the alternative?! 2016 was similar, though much harder to square morally. In 2020? I honestly don't know. I may very well write Sanders in.

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        • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Monday December 02 2019, @01:19AM (2 children)

          by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 02 2019, @01:19AM (#926906) Journal

          Romney?
           
          The last thing anyone from any slant should rationally apply to him is any form of superlative.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @07:42AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @07:42AM (#927028)

            No, the other one.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @08:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @08:35AM (#927033)

              Obama's defeat of Bush in the elections was epic.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:44AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @03:44AM (#926960)

          The new strategy is to push people fed up with the two party system into a small group of "radicals" which will make it easier to manipulate the general population. People need to get tired of the MSM, make it harder for the Ministries of Truth to push a universal message.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 02 2019, @11:31PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 02 2019, @11:31PM (#927415) Homepage Journal

      You guys kill me . . .

      Sanders, an old rich white dude, actually appeals to lefties?

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