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acid andy (1683)

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Rationalistic, dualistic, vegan, cynical, scientific hippie

Journal of acid andy (1683)

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Saturday January 29, 22
04:17 AM
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UPDATE: Since I posted this journal entry, new allegations against aristarchus have been made public by the site staff. If these new allegations are true, then I can only say that I am very disappointed in aristarchus. I consider the alleged behavior unacceptable regardless of any possible justification.

I am leaving the original contents of my journal entry below (in the "spoiler" section), as the words reflect my views based on the information that was publicly available to me at the time I wrote them. I also want to restate my belief that mobbing someone by following the actions of your peers and downmodding comments based on the author rather than the content is unethical.


There, I said it. Quit mobbing Ari. I don't support his alleged methods but I do enjoy his philosophy posts and agree, mostly, with his politics. I also have to confess to the guilty pleasure of finding some of his putdowns very, very funny.

I get you're all sick and tired of the offtopic complaints. Some of the downmodding probably is deserved, but if you take a look at his comment history, particularly on his journal, he is being systematically downmodded over and over now (I mean, modding someone down on their own journal, other than in the most exceptional cases, is just petty). He's had plenty of punishment now guys. Don't drive him away from the site or prevent him from posting at all from his account. I'm not the only one that enjoys his more positive contributions.

This community needs characters like Aristarchus. Too many Soylentils have been leaving. So quit it. He'll most likely calm down if you stop persecuting him.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:42AM (39 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:42AM (#1216613)

    This is a game to him.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:56AM (30 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:56AM (#1216616)

      And.. you are compelled to play? You simply must respond? You think you're saving the internet or something? Yeah, it's all fun and games, but to ban him? That's fucked up.

      Don't let him and zumi and Runaway downmod anymore, they are all very abusive there, but let them speak!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:56AM (14 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:56AM (#1216646)

        Ari got banned for repeatedly and blatantly breaking the rules. As toxic as Azumi and Runaway can be, they both at least try to play fair.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:58AM (8 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:58AM (#1216648) Journal

          Runaway doesn't play fair. He's not "playing" at all; his MO is constant shitposting. He treats this place like it's his personal blog.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:17AM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:17AM (#1216650)

            And you are different how? Ari earned his ban through sock-puppetting and mod-bombing, something neither you nor Runaway are guilty of. Merely being an unpleasant person isn't against the rules. Also, Runaway has never been abusive to me. You have.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @11:06AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @11:06AM (#1216680)
            • (Score: 5, Informative) by drussell on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:50PM (5 children)

              by drussell (2678) on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:50PM (#1216738) Journal

              Ari earned his ban through sock-puppetting and mod-bombing

              Ari is not banned. *

              His karma took a hit recently for his tirades and constant shitposting derailing discussions, by means of many other members (deservedly) moderating several of his posts as -Offtopic, -Troll, and -Flamebait. Which they were. This was well deserved and he brought it upon himself. He will now have to wait out his karma recovery in time-out the bad-ari-box.

              He could speed up his karma recovery by doing things like submitting quality stories to the queue, but he says he's unwilling to do such a thing, so I guess he'll just have to wait a few more days. That's his choice. He is not being silenced, censored or banned.

              * - He is currently restricted from being able to moderate; aristarchus does not currently get daily mod points. He is currently in a 6-month time-out from being allowed to moderate because of his repeated gaming of the system, sockpuppeting, etc. He got a 3-month time-out the first time, 6-months this second time and if he continues that same pattern of behavior in the future, it will be a 1-year moderation holiday next. Not having the ability to moderate discussions, however, is not the same thing as being "banned". Ability to moderate is a privilege, not a right.

              • (Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:34PM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:34PM (#1216801)

                He will now have to wait out his karma recovery in time-out the bad-ari-box.

                ... and that is a ban, even if temporary... Did you ever think he shit posts because he gets so much attention? Instead of banning him, simply ignore him, don't respond, and scroll past, problem solved

                • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday January 31 2022, @05:36PM (3 children)

                  by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 31 2022, @05:36PM (#1217330) Journal

                  While that may be a ban, it's not like some admin smote his IP and he will never be able to login again. The admins didn't even give him a temporary ban. The community correctly moderated his off-topic, troll, and flamebait posts as such. In otherwords, they were showing him the door. https://xkcd.com/1357/ [xkcd.com]

                  I mean, really and truly, the moderation system here works (mostly), so long as no one is abusing it. Sock-puppet accounts, etc. Aristarchus is not being banned by the admin from the site or from posting. In fact his poor Karma will go up naturally and he will be able to continue to post. In the event that he keeps hijacking threads and posting flamebait, more than funny/insightful/interesting posts. He'll still be able to post in the future and provide you with some of the weirdness that makes this site unique.

                  --
                  Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
                  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday January 31 2022, @05:42PM

                    by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 31 2022, @05:42PM (#1217334) Journal

                    That last point was supposed to be saying that in the event that he continues to post more bad than good, he won't be able to post as much. All he has to do is keep a net positive contribution.

                    --
                    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
                  • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @10:39PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @10:39PM (#1217433)

                    Whether it's by the admin or the community (mob action), a ban is a ban, even when temporary. If the "community" says he's a witch, is he a witch? Where's the duck?

                    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @05:11AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @05:11AM (#1217545)

                      And? A ban that all agree on is a good ban.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:23AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:23AM (#1216653)

          Runaway1956 that said 50 millions dead progressives sounds good? Confessed sock puppeteer Runaway1956, mod bomber extraordinaire Runaway1956? Fascist traitor Runaway1956 who loves censorship, that Runaway1956?

          • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:07AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:07AM (#1216665)

            You need your sarcasm meter checked if you think Runaway confessing to being a puppeteer and mod-bomber wasn't just him mocking his accusers. If it was legit the mods would have (rightly) banned him. The rest of your accusation falls under 'toxic'.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by drussell on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:12PM (11 children)

        by drussell (2678) on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:12PM (#1216751) Journal

        Yeah, it's all fun and games, but to ban him? That's fucked up.

        Ari is not banned.

        His karma took a much deserved hit, due to his own actions. It will recover.

        Take a look at his last comments on https://soylentnews.org/~aristarchus [soylentnews.org] and you will see that they're pretty much all crap.

        I disagree with Runaway's politics, views and stance on many topics, but if you go over to his recent comments at https://soylentnews.org/~Runaway1956/ [soylentnews.org] you will find that many of them are actually interesting or insightful, and at least for the most part are on-topic. You may not agree with his angle, but at least he's contributing to a discussion.

        Ari decided to complain about his perceived persecution, constantly complaining about not being able to post from certain IPs, etc. always portraying himself as the poor victim of some vast conspiracy to silence him. He refuses to do anything about the issues he's having (which only he can fix,) yet continues to complain and blame others.

        I'm becoming less convinced that he's just intentionally trolling and may have actual mental health issues. He seems to be exhibiting behavior suggesting a textbook case of victimhood complex / victim mentality...

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_mentality [wikipedia.org]
        https://www.thoughtco.com/victim-complex-4160276 [thoughtco.com]

        <aristarchus> OK, that's it, you have become deranged.  Goodbye.
        <@FatPhil> shades of "everyone's mad but me"

        ...

        <drussell> Perhaps it's still not all just intentional disingenuous trolling...  Ari may well be suffering from a real mental health issue and should probably seek professional assistance...
        <drussell> I say that not as an insult, rather as genuine concern for a fellow human being...
        <aristarchus>   Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email admin@soylentnews.org with your MD5'd IPID and SubnetID, which are...

        ...

        <aristarchus> ... Save your pity.
        <+janrinok> It tells you why you cannot post in the first sentence.  Read it.  You will have to wait for your karma to recover.
        <+janrinok> if you obscure the data then we cannot resolve anything.
        <aristarchus>  OK, that's it, you have become deranged.  Goodbye.
        <+janrinok> Of course, that's it, I am mad. Bye
          * janrinok wonders how he is going to sort this mess out without help, other than waiting for his karma to recover and the 'excessive bad posting' to time out.
        == aristarchus [~bc7b7e8d@188.123.ytg.hwi] has quit []

        (As always, you can read the full discussion at https://logs.sylnt.us/%23soylent/2022-01-29.html [sylnt.us] )

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:33PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:33PM (#1216787)

          Few issues not being addressed: Negative karma only states that you can not moderate. Did not even see anything about disabling AC posting, and certainly nothing about pulling journal off the front page. So aristarchus should be able to post under his username, and his journal should not be pulled from the list. Takyon found some code considered odd responsible for the journal, but again karma shouldn't impact journals. At the very least staff should update the mideration guide to reflect what the site actually does

          • (Score: 4, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:50PM

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:50PM (#1216975) Journal
            In order to protect journals that have been created by a bot from displaying on the front page, any journal with a karma level of less than 1 is removed from the front page index. The journal still exists, is active and can be used as normal. If you go to the journal owner's home page you can access it from there. (There was some confusion initially about karma level that triggers the removal action but the consensus seems to be now that it is 1)
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by acid andy on Sunday January 30 2022, @01:35AM (8 children)

          by acid andy (1683) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 30 2022, @01:35AM (#1216837) Homepage Journal

          I just looked around on the site and the wiki for an explanation of exactly how karma works and found nothing.

          I was under the impression that once a user had negative karma, they were prevented from posting any comments with that user account--note that the message you pasted in above says it's "bad posting from this IP or Subnet", suggesting the IP rather than the account has the commenting ban.

          Anyway, if it indeed is the case that a user account with negative karma cannot submit comments then to me that suggests they're stuck in that state because they can't post new, high quality comments to get modded up (or did you say he could get karma for accepted article submissions while his karma is negative?). You seem to be suggesting that negative karma somehow automatically rises back to a zero or positive value over time. This is news to me and it would be great to have a better explanation of this algorithm.

          I should also point out that while I can see both sides of this (i.e. I understand why some Soylentils are fed up with Ari; I just don't share this view), I really do feel that there is some degree of mob mentality going on with the downmodding, in that, yes, there are comments that seen in isolation lots of Soylentils would still mod down, but there are other comments Ari's posting that I would argue normally should get neither upmods nor downmods, but people are subconsciously seeing how their peers are shunning Ari and all piling in throwing downmod after downmod on whatever comment they can. Unless of course it's a very small number of users and more, apparently undetected, sock puppetry going on.

          Anyway, the point is, if a number of people are set on ousting Aristarchus, then any automatic timed reset of his karma probably isn't going to be much help to him, unless the hungry pack of wolves have lost their appetite by then. Hence my journal entry.

          --
          Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:14AM (5 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:14AM (#1216855) Homepage Journal

            I can only rely on Janrinok's assertion that karma slowly comes back up, automatically, if the account is dormant for awhile.

            Speaking for myself, I won't downmod the man, unless he earns a downmod when he gets back. Fact is, I don't spend a lot of time downmodding anyone. You can ask any admin about my ratio of upmods to downmods. Presuming that ari returns in a week or two, I'll not attack him, unless and until he attacks me. I can only ask that all other members do similar: Moderate each of his posts on it's own merits. Within his own journal, ari is free to say just about anything. Anything. Vulgar personal attacks, maybe should be modded down? Out on the front pages of SN, off topic posts should be modded off topic. Hijacking discussions really needs to stop. If he can't learn, well, do we really need him around?

            New comers reading his rants in nearly every discussion are most definitely going to be turned off, and leave without ever registering an account. We, as a community don't deserve that. Those individuals who have invested money and years into this site don't deserve it.

            Let us allow aristarchus to decide how he is to be treated, alright?

            --
            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
            • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:51AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:51AM (#1216863)

              I won't downmod the man, unless he earns a downmod when he gets back... I'll not attack him, unless and until he attacks me.

              "Attacks" you... I wish you people could see yourselves... Fucking childish bullshit!

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:16AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:16AM (#1216887)

              TL:DR "Don't be mean to me or I'll attack you."

              Personally I've modded teh Runsaway traitor a few times cuz even a rwnj can be correct, but what a baby to admit to such tantrums. Downmod for content, not username ya fookin lout.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:27AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:27AM (#1216889)

                Downmod for content, not username ya fookin lout.

                Isn't that exactly what you are responding to?

                I won't downmod the man, unless he earns a downmod

                DERP A DERP!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @07:19PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @07:19PM (#1217043)

                  Your own fault you are having trouble understanding runaway's rather simple words. Typical for conservatives to selectively quote and apply faulty logic with 100% confidence.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:12PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:12PM (#1217014)

              I ain't worth it.

              You're still defending Truth, Justice and The American Way... and this place is rabidly again' it. Soros [newsbusters.org] and China [breitbart.com] and the like are ensuring our hasty demise. My life is surrounded by Americana, and not so much of it is new...

              •From 1850 to 1980 the use of “rational” words (such as “determine” or “conclusion”) rose. The authors theorize that the rising status of science and technology and their socioeconomic benefits “gradually permeated culture, society, and its institutions ranging from education to politics”.
              •After 1980, and especially after 2007, words signifying “emotion” (such as “feel” and “believe”) staged a rapid rise in popularity in written English. The authors put forth several theories, summarized by this statement: “Perhaps a feeling that the world is run in an unfair way started to emerge in the 1970s when the results of neoliberal policies became clear and became amplified with the rise of the Internet and social media.”

              Takeaway: one need only look at the meme stock craze of the last year to see the powerful role emotions can play in markets over the short term, and this paper puts some useful historical and societal context around that phenomenon. Capital markets do not exist in a vacuum, but rather reflect back an image of the individuals and institutions that set prices within them. The DataTrek approach is to be as fact (“Data”) based as possible. The “Trek” is hard enough already without having to carry any emotional baggage. Don’t make things harder than they have to be...

              - "Peak Rationality" Hit In 1980, And Since Then It's Been All About "Emotion" [zerohedge.com]

              They've made their own bed, they can burn in it. And, I just got this multiple times; the west coast is gonna be out of un-banned dynamic IP addresses...

              Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, anonymous comment posting has temporarily been disabled. You can still login to post. However, if bad posting continues from your IP or Subnet that privilege could be revoked as well. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner or login and improve your posting. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email admin@soylentnews.org with your MD5'd IPID and SubnetID, which are "Yadda-yadda-yadda" and "Yadda-yadda-yadda".

              The truth doesn't hurt, it doesn't phase 'em.

              This place ain't worth it.

          • (Score: 4, Interesting) by drussell on Sunday January 30 2022, @08:19AM (1 child)

            by drussell (2678) on Sunday January 30 2022, @08:19AM (#1216903) Journal

            I was under the impression that once a user had negative karma, they were prevented from posting any comments with that user account--note that the message you pasted in above says it's "bad posting from this IP or Subnet", suggesting the IP rather than the account has the commenting ban.

            That is two different issues. Once you hit about -5 Karma you go into cannot-post mode until your karma recovers. This is mainly to prevent all those spammers from posting unlimited junk from logged-in accounts but affects anyone who goes way negative on karma.

            The not being able to post from certain IP addresses, even as an AC, is due to aristarchus using Tor exit nodes or free public VPNs or proxies or something. That's his issue with the way he's accessing SN over the internet, not any kind of instituted ban on HIS specific IP by staff or something. If he would bother to switch VPN providers to a cleaner IP range he would be able to post as an AC like anyone else, but he refuses to do that so he can continue to claim that he is being deliberately repressed. This is intentional on his part.

            Anyway, if it indeed is the case that a user account with negative karma cannot submit comments then to me that suggests they're stuck in that state because they can't post new, high quality comments to get modded up (or did you say he could get karma for accepted article submissions while his karma is negative?). You seem to be suggesting that negative karma somehow automatically rises back to a zero or positive value over time. This is news to me and it would be great to have a better explanation of this algorithm.

            Negative karma has always slowly automatically expired. It was always like that on /. also. I've always assumed that it was one point per day and that's apparently about what Ari has been gaining but you would have to go look at the code to be sure of the rate.

            You also get positive karma for accepted story submissions, which I suggested to Ari last night but he flatly refused to even entertain the suggestion. You can read the whole discussion in last night's #soylent IRC logs (Jan 29.)

            • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:41PM

              by acid andy (1683) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:41PM (#1216959) Homepage Journal

              Thanks. Yeah I did have a look at that log and I probably will take a look at the code, out of curiosity more than anything. Like others I don't really have much time to spend on it but it seems like a good procrastination tool. :)

              --
              Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:44AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:44AM (#1216924)

        Ari has not been able to downmod, or mod at all, for quite some time. He was banned, for some unknown reason, and when it was realized it was an unknown reason, he was restored, but less than a week after that he was given a six-month modban, because, reasons. You can expect that when he emerges from this one, more "reasons" will miracuously appear. Such is SoylentNews! Effective critics of the right wing we cannot have!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @11:22PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @11:22PM (#1217096)

          I expect that when he emerges, his continued entitled whining will be a compelling reason.

          But note that our model, flawed as it is, does not require a strongman.

          However, there was a houseless person screaming at the sky the other day. It made me wonder whether it was more ethical to have a strongman intervene and take them off to be "treated" somewhere, or just to let them keep screaming at the sky. Their demons must plague them so. I wish we didn't have prohibition against smoking the legal weed "in public view." It would be nice to be able to give them a joint, but for the strongman.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @09:48AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @09:48AM (#1217173)

            I have just about had it with all this whining about aristarchus' whining! His whining is tolerable, but the triggering it causes among the lesser soylentils is really Karen-grade cringe inducing. Please, just stop it.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by acid andy on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:02AM (7 children)

      by acid andy (1683) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:02AM (#1216618) Homepage Journal

      Not just to him, judging by the latest comment count on his recent journal entry. OK, I know most of the comments were probably his own, but hey, it's still gotta make him the most popular of the unpopular Soylentils. Well, there was the Mighty Buzzard, so make that second most popular of the unpopular Soylentils.

      --
      Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:32AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:32AM (#1216625)

        Where is his journal? It has been removed from the latest journals list. Was this deliberate? Does anyone know how to find censored journals?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:48AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:48AM (#1216629)

          Have a look deep in your fetid asshole!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:13AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:13AM (#1216636)

            I am looking, hard, but I only see Runaway? Is there a gun in there?

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:35AM (#1216666)

              Look in Runaway's asshole.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:03AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:03AM (#1216649)

          If you click on the "Most Recent Journal Entries" header it will take you to the full list. He's still listed in the "Top Posters By Number of Entries" and "Top Posters By Friends" sections. His last entry was on January 23rd.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by drussell on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:35PM (1 child)

            by drussell (2678) on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:35PM (#1216733) Journal

            You can always just go to https://soylentnews.org/~aristarchus [soylentnews.org]

            His journal is not missing, nor is he banned.

            His journal is simply not being promoted in neon lights in the slashbox on the main page until his karma recovers a bit.

            The system is working as it should, as it was designed to.

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:47AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:47AM (#1216925)

              drussell is an admin tool. We all should recommend him to actually be an actual editor! He seems ideologically suited.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:30AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:30AM (#1216624)

    Aristarchus has been fighting the regard battle ever since the beginning, and he was here for that. IT people tend libertarian, and unfortunately like The Mighty Buzzard, toward the support of far right racist politics. You can see this in the Gamergate obsession about women, the pearl-clutching over Codes of Conduct, and the bizzare strawmanning of BLM. Now this is because Nerds have very little Liberal Arts education, do not know much about history, and human relations in general, so off course they come off as anti-social sociopaths the might be incels. But that is no reason for them to support White Supremacy and Runaway1956.

    But now that we have the first politically banned soylentil, the die is cast.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:25AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:25AM (#1216655)

      Ari was banned for sock-puppeting and mod-bombing, both clear rules violations. The rest of your post is ad-hominem garbage.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:49AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @10:49AM (#1216926)

        Well, if there was any publically available evidence of any of those alleged "crimes". There is not. Take the admin's word for it.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:22PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:22PM (#1216689) Journal

      IT people tend libertarian, and unfortunately like The Mighty Buzzard, toward the support of far right racist politics.

      So no actual alt-right origins of SN, huh?

      Now this is because Nerds have very little Liberal Arts education, do not know much about history, and human relations in general, so off course they come off as anti-social sociopaths the might be incels.

      Sounds like you could use a little liberal arts, bro.

      But now that we have the first politically banned soylentil, the die is cast.

      Being a dick != politically banned.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @02:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @02:15PM (#1216696)

      Ah yes, gamergate - second only to Atheism+ in the annals SJW entryism via victimhood.

      Many of us have long suspected that a fair portion of the racial invective appearing on this site has likely originated with Ari. I don't doubt people are modding his bullshit down, neither would I be surprised if he was using one of his sockpuppets to mod himself down. [commentary.org] I have come to expect nothing less. [patriotssoapbox.com]

      anti-social sociopaths

      Redundancy be damned when you're damning yourself!

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:24PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:24PM (#1216729)

      Gamergate obsession about women

      It's because you so-called liberals refuse to acknowledge sexual harassment and assault against non-menstrual people. When do we get a safe space, and isn't it antifeminist to suggest that menstrual people are incapable of causing harm and injury? On top of that military conscription and genital mutilation.

      Not everybody is going to get on board with the Marxist final analysis. If you've never been sexually harassed or assaulted by a feminist, maybe you should get out of your basement and meet some actual women. You'll find out they're more like men than they, and men like you so desperate to get laid, want to admit.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:44PM (#1216791)

        Don't give up your day job.

      • (Score: 2, Touché) by charon on Monday January 31 2022, @06:27PM

        by charon (5660) on Monday January 31 2022, @06:27PM (#1217349) Journal
        Congratulations on finding a new creepy way to refer to women.
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:03AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:03AM (#1216634)

    Too many Soylentils have been leaving...

    Yep. This tempest in a teapot is pretty much the last straw for me.

    I don't actually mind that ari were to suffer the consequences of his actions, however it sure looks like he is being mod-bombed by another puppeteer, and that miscreant remains unpunished and at large. It all reeks of high school rivalry.

    Anyone needing sock puppets around here has serious delusions about their own self worth. Get professional help.

    It's pretty much time to leave the party when the toughs start fighting. And there is now nearly nothing in the comments which is not a summary of a cursory Google search, a lame joke or polarizing opinion.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:29AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:29AM (#1216657)

      I agree that the other mod-bomber should be identified and given the same treatment. Sauce for goose is sauce for gander, after all.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:06AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:06AM (#1216664)

      Cursory Google search? You give too much credit. Most comments seem to be from people who didn't even put forward the effort to read the TFS. A good number don't even seem to read and understand the comment they are replying to anymore FFS!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:25AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:25AM (#1216672)

        tldr pls, TFC was too whiny, what des the camel have to do with it anyway IMHO camesls atr dirty animals that have no place here on SNdot.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:28PM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:28PM (#1216690) Journal

      Yep. This tempest in a teapot is pretty much the last straw for me.

      Which is probably the point of this tempest in a teapot. Like apk spamming.

      I don't actually mind that ari were to suffer the consequences of his actions, however it sure looks like he is being mod-bombed by another puppeteer, and that miscreant remains unpunished and at large. It all reeks of high school rivalry.

      Or perhaps ari is modbombing himself with his own sockpuppets - assuming the downmods aren't natural (that is, no sockpuppeting in the first place), that is. I really wish people would understand how dysfunctional this whole thing is. Well, I guess you're figure it out eventually.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:24PM (#1216785)

        I really wish people would understand how dysfunctional this whole thing is.

        This "whole" thing is infinitesimal, while very entertaining, it's easily avoidable. The rest of the site is wide open with some interesting stuff. Just make an effort to scroll past the garbage.

  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:21AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:21AM (#1216637)

    Acid Andy, are you sure you want to do this? If you come out with sympathy for a allegedly know sock-puppeter, and lefty liberal, you could be blackballed like I have been. Appreciate the sentiment, but save yourself before it is too late. You can delete Journal entries.

    Yours,
    aristarchus
    [posting as anonymous VPNed AC, since there is no other way. ]

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @07:32AM (#1216659)

      As long as Andy doesn't get involved in the same blatant rules-breaking that got you banned he should be fine and I have never had reason to believe that he would do something like that. And he does have a point: Your opposite number, whoever that is, is still at large and needs to be put down.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by acid andy on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:57AM (2 children)

      by acid andy (1683) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:57AM (#1216679) Homepage Journal

      Yep, it's the principle of the thing. If they were to turn on me over something like this then they ain't worth it.

      --
      Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @03:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @03:44PM (#1216714)

        Yep, it's the principle of the thing. If they were to turn on me over something like this then they ain't worth it.

        +1 insightful

        Very true. Acid Andy is not the first to post in support of ari. Such posts are an irritant to me, but I have never down modded any such posts - UNLESS I was convinced that they were posted by ari, or an ari sock. Speak your mind, acid andy. I disagree with you, but speak your mind.

      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:39PM (#1216773)

        I ain't worth it.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:42AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:42AM (#1216667)

    To ari, you're just a useful idiot. He's just a troll, even worse than runaway, because runaway is self-consistent. I don't moderate, but fuck aristarchus. His "philosophy" of being a monumental dick isn't anything special.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:43PM (#1216736)

      Yes exactly. Going by posting patterns, I'm guessing that Aristarchus is APK.

      Aristarchus' aim imho is to get the site to actually ban somebody or to implement a CoC. He's trying to push the rules to the breaking point. Who knows if he's just a narcissist or is trying to make some kind of profound philosophical point about the desire for strongmen.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:45PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:45PM (#1216792)

        Ok apk, I mean Runaway, I mean NPCdumbnuts!

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by turgid on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:09AM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @10:09AM (#1216676) Journal
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:15PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:15PM (#1216725)

    ... a persistent, deliberate, repeating, established rule-breaker...

    ... gets bounced for doing exactly that.

    And you're butthurt about it because you kind of dig some of the shit he flung.

    Let me wind up my teeny-tiny little clockwork violin for you, because I can't be bothered playing it myself.

    As for his politics, assuming he even means half the shit he says (not a safe assumption, given that a fair proportion is measurably wrong in the actual world) you're welcome to go to Azuma for your regular injection of crazytroll. That fountain is still merrily bubbling its sulphurous load. Or you could ignore that and just go read Mother Jones online - just as crazy, slightly different slant.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:37PM (#1216772)

      just go read Mother Jones online - just as crazy

      You just leave my mom out of this!!

          - Reverend Bob Jones

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 30 2022, @04:37AM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 30 2022, @04:37AM (#1216870) Journal

      If I'm insane, then so are Finland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, etc...you know, the happiest and most successful countries on earth? :) Calling me, and by extension that, insane, well, that says a lot more about you than me.

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:31AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:31AM (#1216890)

        The insane are often quite happy in their insanity.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:41PM (1 child)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 30 2022, @06:41PM (#1217029) Journal

          What precisely is insane about investing in your own citizenry? Someone here has some real projection problems...

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @11:42PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @11:42PM (#1217099)

            So, you want to drive more people insane?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 03 2022, @04:26PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 03 2022, @04:26PM (#1218303)

    Would you care to offer a revision?

    Do you really think that "This community needs characters like Aristarchus." based on what we are plausibly told? Not merely his stupidities (his philosophy is mostly bad, sometimes outright wrong, but it looks fabulous compared to his grasp of economics) but going beyond rule-breaking to what is, depending on jurisdiction, outright law-breaking?

    Yeah, that's more of what we need. Sign us all up for a pumper truck full of that - except for me. Count me out. And, apparently, count the staff out as well.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday February 03 2022, @06:18PM (4 children)

      by acid andy (1683) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 03 2022, @06:18PM (#1218331) Homepage Journal

      If the allegation in that meta story is correct then I am very disappointed in him.

      --
      Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 03 2022, @07:49PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 03 2022, @07:49PM (#1218366)

        Different AC thanking you for the updated journal entry. Awesome!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @10:45PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @10:45PM (#1219103)

          Another AC letting you know the accusations are false.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 11 2022, @01:21AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 11 2022, @01:21AM (#1220395)

            Another sockpuppet letting you know the accusations are false.

            OK, ari, we heard you the first ten thousand times.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 16 2022, @01:36AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 16 2022, @01:36AM (#1221998)

              No, you didn't. That was janrinok pretending to be Ari! Or Fatphil. Pretty easy to tell when Runaway tries to sockpuppet Ari, 'cause he sucks at it.

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