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Of course, these are only those that some ed felt guilty enough to send a message. Others deleted without comment or a by-your-leave.
Post-Scriptum: I must express my deepest gratitude to the Soylentil who sees fit to gift a subscription to me, since I am not able to contribute to SN, even though I almost never agree with my benefactor. We need more Soylenils like that.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:30AM (7 children)
Why would anyone care about Don Jr?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:55AM (5 children)
Good point, Sulla. What interested me is the fracturing of the alt-right, which seems to be a Kirk/Fuentes thing emanating from Shapiro, and not at all related to Spencer or Milo, or the Idiot of Charlottesville.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday November 12 2019, @08:07AM (3 children)
Jr. is seen as a relatively easy to get to target for anyone that hates his dad, as he not only doesn't repudiate his dad but endorses and supports him.
"emanating from Shapiro"
Wait, wait, you are seriously arguing that the "white nationalist" "alt-right" movement "emanat"(es) from an Orthodox Jew?
Doesn't that make *you* literally Hitler? Someone fact-check me, I'm pretty sure the old pederast just confessed to being literally Hitler.
Antisemitism isn't just a river in Egypt you know.
"and not at all related to Spencer or Milo"
Well you're half-right there at least.
¡εβίβα!
¡Arriva!
¡Skål!
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:59AM (1 child)
Anyone can be alt-right. Even Orthodox Jews, Uncle Toms, or Greek Philosophers.
More specifically, anyone who disagrees with me is either alt-right, a русский asset, or both. It depends on the political zeitgeist of the particular microsecond.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday November 12 2019, @10:22AM
No sir. Not true. There are quite a few of us that are explicitly excluded.
You can't be US alt-right and not credibly claim to be 'white.' You can't even be a footsoldier for that crowd if you present as /diverse/.
"A Ruskie asset"
At this point I've decided that's a badge of honor. If the Rep. from Hawaii doesn't get the DNC nomination I say we replace them with the Ruskie party.
Cause fuck Senator McCarthy. And his followers.
"It depends on the political zeitgeist of the particular microsecond."
So you be ridin' dirty eh?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 12 2019, @11:04PM
Confirmed. I just read it on the internet. It must be true.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:48AM
An undefinable group of trolls with no leadership is fracturing. We have to tell the world about this momentous event.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @10:01AM
I think the publisher of his new book cares.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:58AM (14 children)
You're not the only person to get rejected you know. I had a box full of rejections when I started posting JEs instead.
My JEs may not rank among the great works of mankind, but at least they aren't just header spam.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:12AM (13 children)
Each submission was as unique as a snowflake, with different referenced sources, and individual introductions and commentary. It's not spamming, it's submitting! When SN began, I noticed a dearth of quality stories in the queue, and so I decided to dedicate myself to filling this lacunae. Then I realized that there was a certain amount of editorial bias. So here we are. Journals are not the issue.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:31AM (5 children)
Alright, so prove it. Reproduce the entire submissions rather than just the headers.
Or you could take my initial advice and post the best one instead.
Either way, headers prove nothing other than you were hitting submit repeatedly.
"It's not spamming, it's submitting!"
Uhh, it'd be both, if it's the first.
And repeatedly submitting the same or very similar titles does seem like spamming. Hiding the bodies only makes it look more like spamming.
"When SN began, I noticed a dearth of quality stories in the queue, and so I decided to dedicate myself to filling this lacunae. Then I realized that there was a certain amount of editorial bias."
No, then you noticed they turn down a lot of your submissions and you INFERRED there was some editorial bias.
I'm sure there is *some* editorial bias but it's relatively negligible, and not all one way. Settle down.
Everyone criticizes most of the front page stories for being late. Defense: if you report early you probably get stuff wrong. Counter-attack - you STILL got it wrong!
The whole point to the site is for commenters to hopefully correct and supplement.
The editors have a hard job. I used to think they were biased against me, in fact. But after extensive rumination on the subject, I think it's more a matter of 1) they get spammed and are supposed to be functioning by rules that select for not-quite-too-late-rehashes and 2) I rarely have the confluence of non-work hours, passion, and lucidity for long enough to finish a post since 2010 anyway.
You might consider the ominous parallels.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @04:38PM (2 children)
Oh, don't mind him. He's just having his period.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:25PM (1 child)
Period? More like epoch.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:55PM
In the words of Betelguese, "Go ahead, make my millennium."
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Tuesday November 12 2019, @11:09PM (1 child)
It's just an obnoxious jester act. I'm not taking this even remotely seriously.
(Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 13 2019, @12:24AM
Consider the favor returned, oh noble and disingenuous khallow!
(Score: 2, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:44AM
Yellow snowflakes.
Different URLs pointing to different crappy articles.
More inane commentary from a pile of garbage.
Submitting the same political trash is spamming.
After being kicked out of every other site...
...you managed to lower the average story quality here. Congratulations.
Aww, are your feefees hurt?
Correct. You are the issue.
(Score: 2) by Snow on Tuesday November 12 2019, @05:48PM (5 children)
Ari, this has been explained countless times to you.
Your submissions tend to be biased and sensationalized. Remove opinion pieces. Remove entries that serve no purpose other than to rile people up. Then you will probably have better luck getting submissions accepted.
"Just the facts ma'am"
Also, while many of us love to talk politics, this is primarily not a politics site. Keep that in mind when submitting stories as well.
You are the one with a problem, not this site.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @09:52PM (4 children)
Yes, he knows all that. He just wants to hear it countless times + 1
You guys are being so trolled!
(Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 13 2019, @12:39AM (3 children)
If only Snow, or Arik, or even janrinok, could explain to me one more time the guidelines for submissions, and why nearly on aristarchus submissions on one particular topic are declined, I am sure that then the beacon light of understanding would shoot through my mind like a diamond bullet. Or, not. Because censorship is indefensible. It's the hypocrisy, mostly, that gets me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 13 2019, @01:20AM (2 children)
Your silly intentions aside, it's that your style, regardless of the crowd it draws, is not front page material. You simply have to find a place with lower standards.
I'm not sure you will ever receive the attention you crave, but I am enjoying the attempt
(Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 13 2019, @02:35AM (1 child)
You seriously missuppose my intentions, my lovely AC! Happy to be of amusement, however.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 13 2019, @05:06AM
Your intentions, and even the content of your submissions are completely irrelevant. It is your demeanor that nobody wants to see on the front page. We are much more attracted to your whining right here in your little journal. This is where you belong. It's your little chapel where the curious can come in and gawk.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @12:42PM (3 children)
Unless there has been selective editing of the rejection letters (possible, as I have no evidence for either a true or false determination on "selective editing") these rejection letters are typical 'canned' responses without proper context.
I.e., The space after "... reason:" and before "The editors felt ... " is supposed to contain a statement of a reason why the article was rejected. Yet it is blank.
So we have a situation where a submission was rejected, and the rejection letter is saying: "we rejected for a reason, but we will not tell you what that reason was, nor will we fix it ourselves".
But, unless the submitter knows the "reason" for the rejection, how are they expected to be able to correct it?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @04:06PM (2 children)
1. it's been explained again and again, here in Altstarchus own whining journal entries
2. no editor can bear to type out the same thing a thousand times each month
3. if Altstarchus can't understand it yet, he never will.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @05:40PM (1 child)
Understood. But... What is there is a boilerplate item. So make a second boilerplate item with the long discussed reason included plus the existing boilerplate that is there now, and just insert that second boilerplate item one into each rejection letter.
(Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Tuesday November 12 2019, @10:33PM
That's [soylentnews.org] been in place for as long as I've been here (note the uid above).
It's called the Submission Guidelines [soylentnews.org], a link to which is included right on the submissions page:
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @04:06PM (3 children)
Wednesday, the day after Tuesday, is the day one of these submissions will be accepted. I'm not sure which month though.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @04:08PM (1 child)
Wait, didn't we compromise on the second Thursday, after the fifth Wednesday of the month?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @04:45PM
Dealing with dates is difficult for me because I use a calendar that is one week delayed from the usual. Eg, your Jan 8 is my Jan 1. So when you say fifth wednesday, are you combining our two calendars into an Uber month?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @06:20PM
My name is Sarah C. The next accepted altstarchus submission will be used as a signal by Bot to start Judgment Day. We have to kill the altstarchus and destroy the SoylentNews servers with thermite.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:18PM (3 children)
I always thought the funnest April Fools joke would be to save up aristarchus posts for a month and then dump them all on the 1st.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:24PM (2 children)
Do you have any idea just how many there are? First aristarchus submission: Monday September 22 2014, @08:37PM.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 12 2019, @07:31PM (1 child)
Please resubmit them all. It is the only way to stop the alt right.
(Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 13 2019, @05:13AM
OK, but this is now on you, AC! Welcome to Armageddon! I hope you brought popcorn, the flames will most conducive to popping!
(Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday November 13 2019, @10:34PM
The UK Home Secretary, Priti "Vacant" Patel, who is pretty far to the right, is proposing a law [theguardian.com] in which the homes of Gypsies and Travellers could be confiscated for the mere suspicion of having committed the crime of trespass.
It's not Godwin when it's true. [bbc.co.uk]
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 14 2019, @05:38PM
Just try to meet the demands of the editors. Keep things factual, and if you link to an opinion piece at least be using it to present the facts the article is about. It is a bullshit game, but if you have some quality boring factual submissions then the asshats won't be able to keep giving excuses for their censorship.
It has become quite clear this site is infested, but how bad and high up it goes is harder to pin down. If you stop with the theatrics you might gather a little more support from editors who are put off by your style.
If you refuse then all I can assume is your a useful foil and in no way genuine, just another cog in the alt-right propaganda machine.