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This time is oleandrin:
For months, Donald Trump promoted the off-label use of hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 therapy, even claiming to have taken a course of the anti-malarial drug as a prophylactic. But as the evidence against its effectiveness and potential dangers continues to mount—Dr. Anthony Fauci last month emphasized that studies have “consistently” shown the drug to have “no efficacy” in treating coronavirus—the president may have begun to turn toward a new, unproven miracle cure, this one peddled by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson and...MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell?
Yes, you read that right. Carson and the pillow pitchman, a GOP megadonor and Trump ally, have gotten the president interested in an experimental botanical extract they say could treat COVID-19, raising concerns among some government officials, Axios reported Sunday. Trump, who has been searching for an easy way out of the coronavirus crisis since it started, has reportedly “expressed enthusiasm” for Oleandrin, as Carson and Lindell push for Food and Drug Administration approval, though—like hydroxychloroquine—there is no proof that it works.
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Trump’s fondness for the unproven experimental extract is just the latest instance in which he’s latched on to a quick fix for the coronavirus crisis, the biggest obstacle to bid for re-election, in hopes that he can make it all go away without him having to do anything about it. Nationwide mask mandate? Robust testing regime? Who needs them if you’ve got an oleander extract that hasn’t been adequately tested, but that Lindell—who invests in the company that makes it—swears by?
Out with the old, it out-lived its snake-oil fame and there's no benefit in giving it for free; and in with the new snake-oil
This is how one MAGAs, right? People will be dying anyway (covid-19, third cause of death), so why not make a deal with something US can produce instead of importing it from elsewhere? Who cares it's not effective if the money flows and there are chances of kickbacks or just some electoral donations.
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Edit: My dad was a healthy 65-year-old. His only pre-existing condition was trusting Donald Trump, and for that, he paid with his life.
Good business, killing your voters. One may argue the guy died because of his own stupidity. I wonder how this correlates with Trump voters base?
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @12:40AM (21 children)
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 18 2020, @12:46AM (1 child)
What point are you trying to make?
(Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Friday August 21 2020, @06:06AM
That Australia has some Trump wannabes?
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:18AM (13 children)
Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it for the moment Kelly starts recommending oleandrin.
If it happens, then I'll know he's truly batshit crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:11PM (12 children)
All this talk about bats is making me hungry.
So, with all the crazy politicians the world over, does having more that two parties really make a difference?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:31PM (11 children)
Yes, it does make a difference. Because when nobody can govern except in a coalition, everybody really need to negotiate.
Remember? "Politics is the art of the possible"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0, Redundant) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:42PM (10 children)
Negotiating is not to difficult for a band of thieves with the same goals. It can make a "coalition" into a conspiracy.
And within the two party system there are also many coalitions. We call them committees. Some of those have way too much power over the general process, they can block votes, all sorts of stuff.
I still see much more similarity than differences. Nobody is swimming against the stream. Every country is showing the same problems
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:52PM (9 children)
You'd be surprised how often "honour among thieves" breaks down.
Just give it a try and don't expect Nirvana, be content with "just better"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:13PM (8 children)
You'd be surprised how often "honour among thieves" breaks down.
Not really, when that happens, there's an early election, always makes the news, then it's back to business.
"just better"
:-) Australian for "Good Enough"? It's very difficult to get people to move beyond that.
The real is issue is majority rule itself when you consider the general demeanor and competence, and really low class, of the people that win. Something about sleaze that people find attractive. Maybe they identify. People are electing their equals when they should elect their betters
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:29AM (7 children)
Nope, my terminology.
"Good enough" means "end of line, we are not pushed to go further by our needs"
"Just better" means "Even if just by a tiny bit, today is better then yesterday"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:43AM (6 children)
I don't know... When I see Trump's doppelganger in the UK and Brazil, etc, I have my doubts. To me, the elephant in the room is majority rule. Mass psychosis is a real thing. How do you prevent a crazy person from burning down the country when when the majority or coalition concurs?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:57AM (5 children)
With patience, not gonna happen overnight. Antagonize them and you're doomed in a vicious cycle.
(google "Chris Voss", spend a bit of time over the weekend watching some of youtubes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:28AM (4 children)
Patience only works when you're not on fire.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:36AM (3 children)
You're wrong, but I'll let you learn it on your own way, whatever the result of the learning may be.
See also the Serenity Prayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:29AM (2 children)
Right now we need a bucket of water. I don't think thoughts and prayers will work this time.
US, not Australia. Australia is just a little warm this year.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @10:58AM (1 child)
So quick to tell us what we need and so poor at actually doing it. Why don't you get back to us once you have that bucket of water.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:03PM
Medical supplies for starters, the shortages are bizarre! How is that possible?? And then you need a new president, congress, pretty much a new government that actually functions... Then try to get some therapy. You all are going crazy. I mean, anybody voting for Trump, how insane is that?! So, do us all a favor and make an appointment with the doc
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:34AM (4 children)
Curious why you would call some businessman a "far right conman promoting hydroxy", when he had only donated funding for HCQ for doctors to prescribe as the federal minister of health explains:
Is it because your media have programmed you to parrot that?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:46AM (1 child)
He's not just a dodgy businessman who fails to pay his workers.
He has previously served as a politician on a policy of p*wning the lefties, replete with conspiracies. Less integrity than Pauline Hanson.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 18 2020, @01:15PM
Hard to beat [abc.net.au] but, yes, Palmer manages to beat [abc.net.au] that scumbag record [wikipedia.org] in his sleep [abc.net.au]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:37PM
Evidently you don't fully understand how violently triggered liberals are these days. Even their "news" media show the rioting and destruction they're committing in the name of "justice". If they can connect Trump or any Republican or conservative to breathing air, hopefully they'll all stop that evil practice and the rest of the world can go back to trying to function.
Yes, their liberal mind-numbing koolaid media have brainwashed the idiot sheeple.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:54PM
Not at all, mon cherie!
He may act like a businessman and "far right conman promoting hydroxychlorquine", and he may talk like a businessman and "far right conman promoting hydroxychlorquine", but don't let that fool you, he really is a businessman and "far right conman promoting hydroxychlorquine".
Never give a sucker an even brake, or even a parking brake, I always say.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 18 2020, @12:46AM (28 children)
There are a considerable number of Americans that don't care what Trump says or does, as long as he is not a Democrat.
Many of them profess to be christians, of the evangelical type, who just want a republican in the White House. They don't care who and they're happy to delude themselves about him, as long as he is not one of those "liberals" they hear so much about on Fox News.
I know, its a stupid way to run a country, but they don't care. Just as long as the libs get owned.
I wonder how they'll feel once they've turned the president into a king, and a democrat gets to hold the office?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @01:46AM
Some famous psychologists of the 1920s and 30s document the phenomenon very well.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:12AM (1 child)
Elect Nero for POTUS.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:00PM
"Nero fiddled while Rome burned. The president golfs." -- Bernie Sanders, August 17, 2020
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:00AM (2 children)
The democrat's last candidate had a word for all those that didn't follow her tune: deplorables.
This is still our country. We decide what happens here, and we don't need to justify ourselves to our neighbors, or even the antipodeans here who actually still are subjects of a monarch.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:45AM
Do what you wish with your cuntry.
Don't ask us to stop looking at you as lunatics, you'll be disappointed and only have you to blame for it.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:57AM
No you don't.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday August 18 2020, @10:50AM (7 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @01:30PM (3 children)
If wager we'd see a lot more third party and independents in Congress if we expanded the number of seats to 1/50k (and adjust the electoral college numbers and allocation as well). It would be a lot more proportional and fair that way though, which is why it will never happen.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:29AM (2 children)
6600 representatives is why it won't happen. The only legislature that is close [wikipedia.org] is China (with almost 3000 members), which has both four times as many people as the US and a toothless legislature.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:43PM (1 child)
Why should that matter? We can build buildings large enough. Other countries have systems with similar proportions of pop/rep. The only reason we don't, is a D/R conspiracy to keep the number of seats at a level which they can control.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:24PM
1) Substantially more unwieldy in any activity, and 2) it zooms past human cognitive and social limitations - it's extremely hard to meet, much less be familiar with 6600 people as compared to 435 people in the present House of Representatives.
(Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:26PM (2 children)
America has something else going on. Britain also has first past the post voting, and manages to elect several parties into parliament, currently 10.
But yes, the trend is always to a "big two" type arrangement.
First past the post is the worst voting system, for the voters anyway.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:32AM
(Score: 2) by dry on Monday August 31 2020, @01:35AM
There's a few differences. Parliamentary system means responsible government, with the government responsible to Parliament. The party can replace the PM and Parliament can reject the government (might have changed in the UK recently). America, the President is not responsible to anyone except the voters once. There is the impeachment route but that is more for criminal behaviour.
Also Americans vote for most everyone at once. From dogcatcher to President. Voter shows up to vote and is presented with a list of perhaps 50 positions, each often with 4 candidates. It is a lot simpler to just mark a party instead of thinking about such a large list. Here in Canada, there's the Federal election. Each Province has their own election at various times, and then there's the local elections. The Federal and Provincial elections are each for one representative, sometimes the parties are completely different including regional parties and sometimes a new party can start at the Provincial level and then grow into the Federal level.
It still usually ends up in a 2 way race but with the possibility of a hung Parliament, small parties can make a difference. My Province ended up with the 3 Green party members choosing the government and the Federal government only needs the support of one of the other 3 parties to keep governing. Two elections ago, it was actually a 3 way race federally.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:45PM (13 children)
You started off great, then as with most liberals, you lost your logic marble. I'm much more liberal than average, but I refuse to identify with or vote for a party that endorses, enables, and/or condones rioting, arson, destruction, harming and killing people, as we see daily in the news.
Again, and I know you won't believe it, but I'm quite liberal, but I refuse to be part of the way liberals are behaving. Civility and decorum are not "so last year".
You pick on Fox news (which I don't read) but you fail to read about the analysis done showing how the liberal media bash Trump on and on, but refuse to show anything negative yet true about any Democrat.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:20PM (12 children)
Ummm, errr, news organizations are supposed to report the news, not be a cheerleader for the President. What you call "bashing" I call reporting how Trump has yet again screwed things up.
Could you provide a few examples (with links) to illustrate what you mean by this? I'm drawing a blank on this one.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 18 2020, @04:24PM (1 child)
There was this whole Clinton Email thing the MAINSTREAM MEDIA completely IGNORED!!!!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:44AM
:-) Correction. It's the DNC emails that are more relevant. The Clinton email "scandal" was to produce a cover for the gun running through Benghazi to Turkey, then to
terrorists"moderate rebels" in Syria. The transfer being made during the rioting. When is there a better time to move contraband, while the cops are occupied elsewhere? A few people were were at the wrong place at the wrong time.La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @05:36PM (2 children)
Yes they are. But I expect them to cover substance, not indulge in innuendo and personal hatred. And I expect news media to do the same to the other side, rather than fawning over them and downplaying the riots in our cities as "mostly peaceful".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:44PM
Funny how you hate innuendo then go on to immediately engage in it. That particular bit of stupidity/hypocrisy is why conservatives no longer get my usual basic respect. Not that you care, but I used to start off assuming conservatives were reasonable people with a differnence of opinion.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:56PM
Innuendo? Personal hatred? To my eye, it mostly looks like the press is reporting what Trump is saying and doing. Are you sure you are not shooting the messenger for bringing bad news? Maybe what is really getting under your skin is that the press has noticed that Trump is just plain a really rotten, shitty person?
My understanding is that much of the "rioting" is (or had been) confined to Portland, OR. The rest of the country, not so much. As an example, Trump recently announced that federal law enforcement is coming to Albuquerque, NM (where I live). While we did have a bit of rioting back a couple of months ago, things seem to have quieted down quite a bit since then. No "fawning" required. Maybe you know of something I don't?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @07:25PM (6 children)
It's the koolaid, fucktard. And there's no cure as long as you're breathing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @09:40PM (4 children)
You mean I have to drink the koolaid and jump on the Trump Train to see it? No thanks. I think I'll pass on that one. See you at the polls come November? (Assuming you haven't died from too much koolaid by then.) And remember: winter is coming. [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:59PM (3 children)
You're not even aware of the effect the liberal media has on you. You think you know stuff, but it's all from the media, and you're not even aware. It's most bewildering that people just can't pull their heads out of their asses and realize they're being manipulated. And they, like you, blame Fox News, which I don't watch or read at all because I don't have cable TV. Aren't you getting tired of blaming Fox? So Fox is evil, but CNN, AP, etc., aren't? You're really exactly like the Jim Jones people and all other cult followers. Try to open your smothered mind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @03:38PM (1 child)
So, what do you think I need to be aware of? Be specific. Providing links would be very helpful.
So, in what way do you think I am being manipulated? Again, be specific. As always, links would be helpful.
What do you think I should open my "smothered mind" to? Again, be specific.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:20AM
You've provided NO links, but I have to? Keep sucking up your CNN. Why can't you see how one-sided they are? Step back and look at things directly for yourself, rather than letting someone control your thoughts?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @04:37PM
But the MSM says all other sources are fake (racist, literally Hitler).
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:15AM
Ok Foxtard.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @06:27AM (1 child)
Marissa Van Eck FAKENAME NIGGER CUNT Azuma Hazuki: So "that was NOT me posting" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985641#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] which YES, you said when you LIBELED me publicly BEFORE it with YOU saying "So that's a "yes" to schizophrenia/schizoaffective disorder and a "no" to "am taking meds for said disorder" LIBELING ME then...?" per YOUR https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=982854#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you stupid pitiful FAKENAME fuck online LIAR piece of fucking SHIT NIGGER?
OR
Was it when I GOT YOUR REAL NAME & found you are a satanist/anti-god HERE https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/luke/luke_7_36-50/#comment-269796 [soylentnews.org] also which most ALL you "LEFTIST" LOSER weirdos usually are (which YES, in THIS other exchange "Why do you assume that you finding discussion threads on other sites with me in them will scare me?" quoted from https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028402#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you DID admit FINALLY to saying it was you - ESPECIALLY AFTER dozens of doctors RECENTLY seconded me on Hydroxychloroquin + Zinc (& Vitamin D3 imo along w/ other things I noted that are anti-viral + antibacterial like RAW GARLIC too)).
Do me a favor - DENY ANY OF THOSE, please & I will continue PROVING YOU ARE A NIGGER SHITBAG LOSER, devil... as I already DID here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38720&page=1&cid=1028211#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
The TRUE BEAUTY of SATANIST FUCKS like YOU (antigod assholes)? TRUTH & FACT DESTROYS LIBELOUS DEVILS LIKE YOU - just like I did you & OTHER AHOLES who doubted what I wrote on what is NOW PROVEN TRUE by DOCTORS, admitted in mainstream media etc. (as I showed in those links' exchanges above easily) & especially LATELY by DOZENS of doctors (I have proof from pros - NOT LIBEL like you did to me PUBLICLY & I can still FRY YOU FOR IT FUCKER, live in fear fuck) MINUS any psych pros backing you.
SAY 1 THING, YOU STINKING LIBELOUS NIGGER FUCK & I will CONTINUE LEVELLING YOU PUBLICLY with facts - not libel as you tried on me, stupid "Marissa von DUMBO", lol - please, say 1 thing & the BEATING on you, PUBLICLY will continue in this thread where you will have a HELL of a TIME "downmod burying it" via downmod brigades doubtless ONLY yourself via multiple sockpuppet accounts etc. (downodding to HIDE it? FORGET IT vs. me - everyone sees you @ it now, lol - thanks, just as I SAID "your kind", demonic SWINE/antigod LOSERS, always do).
WHY SHOULD YOU FEAR LIBELING ME PROJECTING IT NOW, TRYING TO HIDE IT TOO?
TOUGH HIDING YOU LIED about LIBELING ME, especially via INHERENTLY DAMAGING STATEMENTS libeling me as you did see GOLDWATER RULE below too fuckface CUNT you are (wikipedia proof https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985366#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] & you said "No jury or judge would back it" here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985353#commentwrap? [soylentnews.org] Ok - like I said earlier here which you TRIED TO DOWNMOD HIDE as I knew you HAVE to (everyone sees it anyhow) - TRY ME FUCKER - say 1 thing you COWARDLY STUPID LITTLE FUCK & we'll SEE what happens to you, fuckface CUNT you are).
As I said "DO YOU WANT TO BE SUED" for breaking the GOLDWATER RULE? See here again https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985329#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] for YOUR (& everyone else's) reference of YOUR LIBEL of myself
APK
P.S.=> Oh, I am going to have a FIELDDAY on YOUR ASS fucker - catching you not ONLY IN LIES above, but also in the fact you are a GODLESS fucking LOSER - come on, say something, question the above where you LIED fucker ("it was not me saying it" but it WAS in those links calling me a nutcase essentially when YOU SAID YOU DID NOT (because it IS grounds for SUING THE LIFE OUT OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASS because your statements are NOT BACKED BY actual psychiatric pros in professional psychiatric grounds LIBELING ME)) - oh, you are NEVER going to LIVE THIS DOWN & believe you me - I am going to MAKE SURE you don't - live with your HUMILIATION loser... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @08:19AM
The impostor is back trying to ruin my already troubled name. Please ignore such posts, they are not worth getting riled up over and hopefully they will at least not spam the site repeatedly.
I apologize for creating a persona this person uses as a platform.
Have a great day,
apk
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @11:47AM (1 child)
Remember the film White Oleander? It was used as a poison in the movie to murder someone. Oleandrin is one of the main toxic components, which is a compound similar to digoxin/digitalis (derived from the foxglove plant). In small amounts it can be used to increase the strength the heart pumps blood, like digoxin, but the therapeutic index for oleandrin is similarly narrow. Like that other Trump favourite hydroxychloroquine, oleandrin can also cause potentially fatal heart arrhythmias.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:22AM
Then don't take any, Einstein.
(Score: 2, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:13PM (8 children)
I think most of us have agreed at one time or another, Trump would do a lot better just to STFU sometimes. Anyone, including Trump, can think and believe as he wishes. Flapping those gums just lands him in trouble with the press, time and again. Given that the press is hostile, a little silence would do him a lot of good.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @02:49PM (2 children)
Very much agreed. What baffles me is how people react to it. Trump has been in the media and had TV shows for years. He's just being Trump. It's who he is. He recently tweeted something about moron Bill Maher being a jerk. I couldn't stop laughing. I used to find it entertaining until the rioting started (right after the 2016 election).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:23PM (1 child)
Yes, it is. And he has a right to be who he is. I just don't want him to be President while doing so.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:25AM
Then vote for sleepy creepy hair-sniffing Joe.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:09PM (2 children)
You people still act like he's a human being.
He is in name only
I think he is a medical experiment
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:34AM (1 child)
As we all are. Dehumanization is a trivial thing to do.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:37AM
Chaaa! Especially with him. Well, whatever, he is definitely deranged. A bonobo has more empathy
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday August 18 2020, @03:48PM (1 child)
Like, "ideally, STFU and do your job responsibly" kind of STFU.
But, yes, lacking any capability of "do your job", I'll take "just STFU".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:35AM
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:44AM (3 children)
https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=42841 [soylentnews.org]
Mr. Pillow, no longer cures cancer.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday August 19 2020, @12:56AM (1 child)
They had to reject it
Who can listen to that guy? It's like those damn Trump interviews. Pure insanity, and the numbers hold steady. That's the real insanity. Just becoming one big brawl
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:35AM
You are listening to the wrong side, Fustilaretch! Take your headphones off, and switch sides, then everything will make sense. Anderson was taking down a bat-shit crazy envelopian Christian with very few braincells, but a shitton of Trump campaign money. If his is so rich, why ain't he smart? Ditto for the God-enviserator.
Not one big brawl, one big chickens coming home to roost, where the Republicans we all know and love in their mental asylums say,
Yes, the great purge of the deplorables, who will no longer be able to fly their Traitor Confederate battle flags, or roll coal, of make off-color racist remarks, because we will arrest them and give them their just deserts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:33AM
Journal then? Like this one.
(Score: 3, Disagree) by VacuumTube on Wednesday August 19 2020, @01:41PM (13 children)
to defend Donald Trump, but "For months, Donald Trump promoted the off-label use of hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 therapy, even claiming to have taken a course of the anti-malarial drug as a prophylactic. "
There is a difference between "prophylactic" and "therapy". To my recollection Trump said he was taking the drug as a prophylactic, but all of the reports say that tests have shown that hydroxychloroquine is worthless as therapy. I've heard no one address the possibility that it is an effective prophylactic.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:23PM (6 children)
My take is simple: Trump Derangement Syndrome. These people are so triggered hateful of Trump that literally anything he says they go berserk. Watch the rioting videos if you can't quite grasp the depth of the true literal insanity. It's all exactly a lynch mob mentality.
What bothers me the most is that these triggered libtards are arguing from the position that a president is emperor. How about this: a president is NOT emperor! You don't have to do every last little thing Trump says. Especially in Trump's case- he's been saying all kinds of things for way longer than he's been president. Ignore it and move on. There's no law saying you MUST use hydroxychloroquine or any other thing.
My position is: we don't have a cure, and limited therapies, and I'm happy if some people want to experiment on themselves. I'll watch the results and maybe something will work.
Look at the dexamethasone therapy they finally (after 5 months?) figured out is very helpful. "Standard of care" says steroids are contraindicated in infectious disease treatment. The brilliant Brits said "we have to do something" and amazingly- gave a steroid to reduce lung inflammation that was killing people, and whoa, it worked!
All throughout history great discoveries have been made- by accident. Let Trump try the stuff himself!! I think it's heroic.
"Hydroxychloroquine": "Immunosuppressive drug and Anti-parasitic. It can treat and prevent malaria. It can also treat lupus and arthritis."
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-5482/hydroxychloroquine-oral/details [webmd.com]
Sorry for the rant obviously meant for others. To answer your good question: it's too difficult to measure prophylaxis short-term. People (patients) are so widely varied, and there are at least 6 variants of COVID-19 that it's too complex to get any reasonable hard data on treatment, let alone prevention. We've seen young die, and very elderly recover. Now they're seeing cardiac damage, and who knows what else they'll find. And they're looking into the possibility that the damage is caused by the immune system / antibodies, not the disease (I wrote "possibility).
This disease is likely the worst to ever hit humanity. I think we need a "all hands on deck" approach- much much increased efforts to find therapies and cures, and 2 years from now we'll wish people had tried a lot more than simple things we get from tree bark like hydroxychloroquine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @05:23PM (2 children)
Want to ask people who went through Ebola outbreaks if they agree?
I'll grant that the political reaction to the disease has been the worst to hit the US centric world in generations. Manmade human disasters caused by calculated stupidity on the order of ... perhaps Hitler's decision to invade the Soviet Union.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @07:16PM
Good points, but you're comparing hindsight to foresight. Check back in 5 years...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @07:18PM
BTW, I wrote LIKELY but as usual you pass over that and pick and choose what you wish so you can get fired up and dispute. Go punch a tree.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 19 2020, @11:44PM (2 children)
I can think of a bunch that are worse. Malaria, for example, has probably deeply altered [soylentnews.org] us evolution-wise. And there's smallpox, influenza, bubonic plague, measles, scarlet fever, cholera, typhoid fever, typhus, hookworm infection, and AIDS. Just to name a few.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @12:40AM
And within many of boomer lifetimes, polio, which put thousands of children into an iron lung for life in the US. A vaccine was developed in a few years, but where were the lockdowns?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:31AM
Look, we know you're mentally handicapped, but I did write "likely". I know that ruins your brilliant rant, but get over it. And check back here in 2 years and see what COVID-19 has done to the entire world- health, economics, politics, everything. "Likely", shallow, get it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 19 2020, @02:28PM (2 children)
Or an adjuvant. HCQ is probably not a cure for Covid as the MSM says, but if it can help lessen the severity of the pneumonia that Covid can cause, it is useful.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @05:31PM
It seems that it can't help with that either [medrxiv.org]. Hydroxychloroquine is a dead horse. Your idol was wrong. Get over it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:34AM
Excellent points. It may be that it helps more with certain specific strains of COVID-19. And it may be that it helps some people far more than others due to individual body chemistry differences, and may even hurt some. It would be radical if doctors kept closer track of their patients and various treatments and therapies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 20 2020, @05:28PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:28AM
Hey genius, Trump is NOT a doctor! I know you didn't know that. You're so triggered because you think he's going to ORDER you to take something you're worried about. But he can't!!! He's not even a doctor!! You and the rest of your libtard herd figured out that he babbles on, but you're still raging like you just discovered it! Get the fuck over it and STFU!
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 26 2020, @05:03AM
No, that's "Trump derangement sickness", the inability to stop assigning a value to an idiot that proved over and again his contribution to this world is far more on the damage side than otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday August 28 2020, @07:27AM
>this one peddled by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson
also, a neurosurgeon, or is the fact that a neurosurgeon discusses health issues a bad thing for this piece of journalism?
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