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Saturday August 01, 20
03:40 PM
Digital Liberty

Nathan Law and 5 others are being actively sought by Hong Kong police for collusion with foreign forces and jeopardizing national security, reports Global Times, an English language website run by the Chinese Communist Party.

Former UK consulate staffer, Simon Cheng Man-kit (previously detained for soliciting prostitutes, dixit Global Times), and secessionist Samuel Chu (now a US national) of Washington-based Hong Kong Democracy Council (HKDC), are also on the wanted list. Other names mentioned are Ray Wong Toi-yeung and Lau Hong, and Chu and Wayne Chan Ka-kui.

Interestingly, the reason why the 6 are being sought is for crimes after the national security legislation was officially established -- hence after Nathan Law was already in London. It wouldn't be surprising if Law's interview on the BBC's Hard Talk would be reason for accusing him of jeopardizing national security.

According to the article, the six are spread around the world: Nathan Law, Ray Wong Toi-yeung and Lau Hong in the UK, Cheng Man-kit in the US, Chu and Wayne in the Netherlands, EU. Hong Kong police is planning to issue an international search warrant for the six, through Interpol.

The Hong Kong police department is a member of the Interpol, and countries that shield the suspects are showing no regard the Interpol framework and will face pressure from it, Zhi Zhenfeng, a legal expert at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing, stated.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:27PM (2 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 01 2020, @04:27PM (#1029875) Homepage Journal

    If China never gets the people they want, will they, in the future, arrest their descendants to answer for the "crimes"?

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:33PM (7 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday August 01 2020, @07:33PM (#1029968) Journal

    Doesn't that suck? Good thing the US never, ever did anything like that...

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by quietus on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:33PM (6 children)

      by quietus (6328) on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:33PM (#1030003) Journal

      Did the United States ever issue an interpol arrest warrant for somebody speaking out his mind?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:05PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:05PM (#1030021)

        We just tend to bomb them or send them to black sites after snatching them off the street.

        • (Score: 2) by quietus on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:19PM (3 children)

          by quietus (6328) on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:19PM (#1030029) Journal

          Can you give an example of such a case?

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:00PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:00PM (#1030044)

            Thought you may have remembered more current history, but:

            On September 30, 2011, US drone-launched missiles killed four people, including al-Qaeda propagandist Anwar al-Awlaki, in Al Jawf Governorate. The strike also killed Samir Khan, American-born editor of Inspire magazine. The strike marked the first known time that the US had deliberately targeted US citizens in a drone attack.[40]

            A reported drone strike on militant hide-outs east of Zinjibar, capital of Abyan Governorate, on October 5, 2011 killed five AQAP militants.[41] According to Yemeni government officials, a US airstrike on October 14, 2011 killed seven AQAP militants, including Egyptian-born Ibrahim al-Bana, AQAP's media chief.[42]

            On October 14, 2011, a similar drone strike killed al-Awlaki's 17-year-old son, Abdelrahman al-Awlaki and eight others.[43]

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:35PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 02 2020, @01:35PM (#1030243)

              That's different, that's "funny" [twitter.com]

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:57AM

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday August 02 2020, @04:57AM (#1030164) Journal

            You trying to be funny? This simple wiki page is full of examples [wikipedia.org]...

            Of course, all other things being equal, I expect people to speak up for their home country.

            *East is east and west is west...*

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      • (Score: 5, Funny) by Arik on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:39PM

        by Arik (4543) on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:39PM (#1030055) Journal
        "id the United States ever issue an interpol arrest warrant for somebody speaking out his mind?"

        How soon you forget.

        https://www.wired.com/2010/11/assange-interpol/

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  • (Score: 2) by quietus on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:49PM (7 children)

    by quietus (6328) on Saturday August 01 2020, @08:49PM (#1030012) Journal

    That the CCP would go after the secessionists was to be expected. What is devious here is that they're stressing the use of the Interpol system to obligate other countries to help them.

    If Interpol issues a red notice [justice.gov], and the Netherlands or the UK does not follow up on that, it is once more proof, according to the CCP, that the international rules-based system is slanted against them and, by extension, the whole of the developing world: hence, it is unfair and should be modified. If the Netherlands or the UK however follow up on the red notice, they'll be acknowledging that protesting against government policy is an internationally recognized crime.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @09:09PM (#1030023)

      Russia and Turkey abuse Interpol too [journalofdemocracy.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:07PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 01 2020, @10:07PM (#1030047)

      What is devious here is that they're stressing the use of the Interpol system to obligate other countries to help them.

      Interpol is a communications network, not a command structure. Countries are sovereign in what they do with Interpol notices.

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