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Saturday July 17, 21
06:51 PM
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The Alt-Wrong in the UK, the Faragists, Brexiters, Tories and assorted hangers-on have long railed against the "liberal left bias" and "wokeness" of the BBC, despite it being run by Tories.

Veteran BBC journalist Andrew Neil recently left the BBC to start his own TV news channel, GB News, also known as Gammon Brexit News or GBeebies (after the BBC's channel for toddlers) whose remit is to provide unbiased, un-woke, uncensored news, current affairs and debate, free from liberal left bias and cancel culture.

Several well-known BBC colleagues also left the BBC to support Andrew Neil's new unbiased illiberal right regressive venture, to push the boundaries of debate and to be brave enough to say the things that ordinary people are thinking but dare not express in this new liberal fascist undemocratic Marxist dystopia.

One such TV journalist was Guto Harri, who apparently took the knee in solidarity with the England football (soccer) team who had suffered racist abuse.

Predictably, the gammon went into meltdown, and Harri was sacked.

After three days and a growing boycott, which led to some shows attracting zero viewers, the channel’s management felt the need to cut Harri loose. In a statement, GB News said it was “unacceptable” for any presenter to take the knee, a symbol associated with the Black Lives Matter movement, and said Harri had broken the channel’s editorial code.

But...

Friends of Harri said: “GB News is becoming an absurd parody of what it proclaimed to be – not defending free speech and combatting cancel culture but replicating it on the far right. Nasty.

Oh the Iron Knee.

The Harri incident has proved indicative of the issues facing GB News. Harri was a longserving BBC correspondent before moving into politics as Boris Johnson’s spokesperson during his first term as mayor of London. He then went to work for Rupert Murdoch’s News UK for several years, yet has found himself portrayed by some GB News viewers as a dangerous leftwing Marxist sleeper agent.

The Kipper paranoid delusion lives on.

As David Kurten, a former Ukip politician who now leads the niche rightwing Heritage party, gleefully tweeted at the channel after Harri took the knee: “Go woke, go broke.”

Smelly Kippers.

Now, will we once again be visited by the Fascist Maifesto parrot? Have at ye!

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:09PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:09PM (#1157325)

    Marxists have every other media outlet available to them. They can take a hike.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by turgid on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:14PM (12 children)

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:14PM (#1157329) Journal

      Do you know what a Marxist is?

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:38PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:38PM (#1157336)

        Do you? [americanthinker.com]

        Even though Marxism is thought of as an economic system, for the head-psychopath-in-charge the economic aspects of Marxism are irrelevant. The attraction of Marxism is that it gives Marxists control over others. Marxism is the primary element in the psychopathic mask of Marxists, and provides a false rationale for Marxist control of all aspects of a state and its citizens. Marxism is not about economics; Marxism is about the psychopath's control of other people -- their finances, their behaviors, their ways of thinking, their lives. True believers in economic Marxism are gullible psychopath enablers and followers, and are not commonly themselves psychopathic.

        The farce of Marxism is demonstrated when the world's worst mental disorder traduces otherwise capable people into a worldwide activity to their own detriment. Psychopaths could not build elaborate systems without supporters; psychopath supporters are not stupid, and some are very intelligent. But these supporters are certainly susceptible to the charming and horrific nonsense spouted by destructive psychopaths.

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by turgid on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:44PM (3 children)

          by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:44PM (#1157337) Journal

          You really are the gift that keeps on giving, aren't you? Ever since I mentioned Climage Change [soylentnews.org] these weird anonymous attempts at far-right [wikipedia.org] disinformation follow me around. Will you be posting the fascist manifesto again today, without any hint of irony?

          • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:59PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:59PM (#1157344)

            "disinformation" - Lenin, Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung, Kim Il-Sung, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro. Marxism is psychopathy because Marx was a psychopath. [fee.org]

            In the name of the Marxian vision of a “new society” and a “new man,” socialist and communist revolutions led to the mass murders, enslavement, torture, and starvation of tens of millions of people around the world. Historians have estimated that in the attempt to make that “new” and “better” socialist world, communist regimes have killed as many as, maybe, 200 million people in the twentieth century.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 02 2021, @06:22AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 02 2021, @06:22AM (#1162154)

          Even though Capitalism is thought of as an economic system, for the head-psychopath-in-charge the economic aspects of Capitalism are irrelevant. The attraction of Capitalism is that it gives Capitalists control over others. Capitalism is the primary element in the psychopathic mask of Capitalists, and provides a false rationale for Capitalist control of all aspects of a state and its citizens. Capitalism is not about economics; Capitalism is about the psychopath's control of other people -- their finances, their behaviors, their ways of thinking, their lives. True believers in economic Capitalism are gullible psychopath enablers and followers, and are not commonly themselves psychopathic.

          The farce of Capitalism is demonstrated when the world's worst mental disorder traduces otherwise capable people into a worldwide activity to their own detriment. Psychopaths could not build elaborate systems without supporters; psychopath supporters are not stupid, and some are very intelligent. But these supporters are certainly susceptible to the charming and horrific nonsense spouted by destructive psychopaths.

          FTFY. Describes Trumpist Amerika perfektly.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:48PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:48PM (#1157340)

        This whole "Marxist" thing, what is it, some kind of spin off from the still running "Russia! Russia! Russia!" sitcom?

        Ok, so let's get this straight.. Republicans are Russian, and democrats are Marxist?

        • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @11:55PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @11:55PM (#1157416)

          Did you not notice the 2016 flip where Russians went from the enemy to favored nation status with Republicans? Weirdest shit I ever did see.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday July 18 2021, @01:22AM (2 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday July 18 2021, @01:22AM (#1157436) Journal

            Did you not notice the 2016 flip where Russians went from the enemy to favored nation status with Republicans?

            From what I read, that happened in 1996.. And in fact, there is kind of a weird twist [wikipedia.org]

            On a bilateral level, however, the United States could not grant MFN status to some members of the former Soviet Union, including the Russian Federation, because of the Jackson-Vanik amendment. This presented an obstacle to those countries' accession to the WTO. At the urging of Vice President Joe Biden, the Jackson-Vanik amendment was repealed with Magnitsky Act (which attempts to punish human rights violations without hampering trade) on December 14, 2012.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @03:25AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @03:25AM (#1157456)

              That isn't a weird twist to me, that is common sense trying to actually foster better relations. I have no big beef with Russia myself and think we should work towards peace, try and resolve the sanctions, etc. Wasn't even mad at Russia for helping Trump get elected, made sense for them and we have more than earned the abuse.

              Thank you for your expected reaction, as usual you've got a negative spin on the dems but "(which attempts to punish human rights violations without hampering trade)" is hardly the scathing retort you imagine. You are so transparent, wonder whose sock puppet you are :-)

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday July 18 2021, @04:51AM

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday July 18 2021, @04:51AM (#1157481) Journal

                but "(which attempts to punish human rights violations without hampering trade)" is hardly the scathing retort you imagine.

                :-) Gee, I guess should have edited it out, since it's totally irrelevant. But do try to follow the thread more closely. You just might grasp what I wrote

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                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @10:48AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @10:48AM (#1157541)

            Did you not notice the 2016 flip where Russians went from the enemy to favored nation status with Republicans? Weirdest shit I ever did see.

            The exact time when Wikileaks fell out of favor with the Democrats. Tribalism.

    • (Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:49PM (4 children)

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 17 2021, @07:49PM (#1157341) Journal

      Marxists have every other media outlet available to them. They can take a hike.

      Are you a fascist [wikipedia.org]? Perhaps you are, but don't self-identify as one?

      Opposed to liberalism, democracy, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

      Marxism is quite a preoccupation for you, isn't it? And why are you apparently opposed to anti-racists? Do you have a problem with certain skin colours? Fascists often do.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @09:46PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @09:46PM (#1157379)

        "Do you have a problem with certain skin colours? Fascists often do."

        Fascism tends to revolve around an in-group vs an out-group. And race is quite often an easy way to define either an in-group or an out-group. Go to the most liberal area you can find, I would recommend San Francisco. Put out a few fliers stating, "It's okay to be white." And observe the response. Now repeat the same in the most conservative area you can find, and just change it to whatever group you think your bogeyman might dislike. Hispanic, black perhaps? And again observe the response.

        If you'd like spoilers. The former will result in a massive reaction and you will be hunted down if at all possible, with the ultimate goal being to destroy you - because you most be an absolutely abominable human to say such a hateful thing. In the latter case? People will shrug and move on with their lives. Are we the baddies...? [youtube.com] Brilliant not only because of the delivery, but because of the fact such a scenario (unfortunately... less comically) no doubt has played out countless times throughout history.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @11:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 17 2021, @11:52PM (#1157414)

          Rightwing nutters gotta bust one! Sadly they're so dumb they just punch themselves in the balls.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @12:51AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @12:51AM (#1157428)

          Fascism tends to revolve around an in-group vs an out-group. And race is quite often an easy way to define either an in-group or an out-group. Go to the most liberal area you can find,

          "Cats have four legs. Dogs have four legs. And elephants have four legs. Therefore cats are dogs and dogs are elephants! Oh gawwd I am so intelligent!!!1! Trump 2020! Stop the steal!!1!1!!!1!"

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @04:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @04:55AM (#1157485)

          I really loved that one where some troll put up fliers stating "Islam is Right about Women".
          Epic meltdowns and heads asploding everywhere.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Gaaark on Sunday July 18 2021, @02:43AM (6 children)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 18 2021, @02:43AM (#1157450) Journal

    GB News said it was “unacceptable” for any presenter to take the knee

    It's quite acceptable to take it up the arse, but take the knee? Ya fired!

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    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @03:45AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @03:45AM (#1157460)

      Cancel culture is only a Leftist Marxist crime against humanity /sarcasm. Rightwingers are above reproach to themsevles, any canceling they do is "GOD'S WILL."

      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @07:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @07:01AM (#1157517)

        That rings hollow since the left controls almost all of corporate media and the tech giants. They amplify and profit from cancel culture. The "cancelled" Guto Harri will have no problem finding new employment.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @10:52AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @10:52AM (#1157542)

        Or... wait for it... these extremists are all wrong regardless of which side they support. A crazy idea, to be sure. Having consistency in one's principles.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @04:09AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @04:09AM (#1157784)

          "A crazy idea, to be sure. Having consistency in one's principles."

          Yes, that was the point.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @10:33AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @10:33AM (#1157830)

            There is literally a sarcasm mark in that post and they still missed it and got modded up. You can't help some people. I swear the Poes are going to kill us all or get us all killed one day.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 24 2021, @03:34AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 24 2021, @03:34AM (#1159515)

              There Is A Difference Between

              some people on the side that I disagree with do it, so that makes it okay for people on the side that I support to do it too

              And

              that behavior is not acceptable. full stop

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