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Friday November 12, 21
10:35 PM
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So I was drinking beer and eating curry. Where did it all go wrong? Life's great mysteries!

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday November 12 2021, @10:59PM (9 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 12 2021, @10:59PM (#1195779) Journal

    Where did it all go wrong?

    The problem is that you didn't stay eight years old. It's quite the common mistake.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:18PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:18PM (#1195785)

      Silly observations, glad to see you branch into comedy /nos

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:49AM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:49AM (#1195808) Journal
        Silly or science [wiley.com]?

        Studies of music, motion pictures, movie stars, and fashion products have shown that styles popular during a consumer's youth can influence the consumer's lifelong preferences. The authors present an integrative model of this phenomenon and propose that these nostalgic effects are not limited to products that relate to the arts and entertainment or are primarily aesthetic. As an illustrative example, the authors investigate the effects of early experience on consumer preferences for automobile styles. Consistent with expectations, they find that men do but women do not show evidence of nostalgic attachment to the styles experienced in their youth—that is, their preferences peaked for products that were popular when they were young. Also, as expected, individual differences in the psychographic variable of nostalgia proneness play a role in moderating these effects. These findings expand the understanding of the generality, the boundaries, and the managerial relevance of the age-related peak-preference phenomenon.

        One consequence is that people tend to think of their youth as being the best times of their lives, no matter when they were born!

        • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Saturday November 13 2021, @09:40AM (4 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday November 13 2021, @09:40AM (#1195889) Journal

          khallow has managed to stay eight years old. And a Vienna School Libertariantard. Astonishing.

          • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Saturday November 13 2021, @11:54AM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @11:54AM (#1195902) Journal
            Unlike you, I haven't managed it for 2300 years. But I haven't died yet so it's progressing well.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @03:42AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @03:42AM (#1196028)

              So if I'm reading this correctly either Aristarchus is actually your ally, which would mean you hate what you are; or you are really Aristarchus' pupil or sock puppet.

              Intriguing.

    • (Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:21PM (1 child)

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:21PM (#1195908) Journal

      The rot had already set in by then. I would have preferred to have stayed 6. I had my epiphany at 7.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:59PM (#1195938)

        > I had my epiphany at 7.

        Musts be a late bloomer, 19 for me (several life changing events).

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 12 2021, @11:09PM (19 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 12 2021, @11:09PM (#1195782) Homepage Journal

    When the Dems had all the asylums around the nation shut down, and all the inmates rushed out to register as Democrats. That was the end of the beginning. Or the beginning of the end. Or something in between. Then, there was Korea (before my time) and Vietnam (still before my time, but I can remember some of it) and the Assassination Season (two Kennedys and a King). But, the core of the meltdown was when they shut the asylums down. When the former inmates started getting elected to congress, there was no turning back.

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    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:16PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:16PM (#1195783)

      Agreed, when turgid had the inevitable runny shits who could have predicted the puddle of shit would run for president? Then not 40 years later another sentient turd would come along. Most shocking of all is how much you domestic terrorists love smearing the turds all over yourselves. Was that why y'all smeared your shit in the Capitol? Hoping to summon a new demagogue?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:27PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 12 2021, @11:27PM (#1195789)

        The dementagog was already summoned, and waiting to be sworn in.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:21AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:21AM (#1195798)

          Yeah Reagan was already famous and prepped by fucking up Republican's most hated state. Then an even fatter deuce from New York. Wonder how hard the GOP leaders laugh at your expense.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:03AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:03AM (#1195844)

      I'm impressed. I didn't know that the Democrats had such power in Scotland.

      • (Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:20PM (1 child)

        by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @12:20PM (#1195907) Journal

        There's a global conspiracy, apparently, with green lizard men from outer space. I saw it on the intertubes so it must be true.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:44AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:44AM (#1196036)

          green lizard men from outer space. I saw it on the intertubes so it must be true.

          The plot thickens, so long as alien males menstrate. [lbc.co.uk] Think I did read about a conspiracy on the intertubes, it was called "biology" -- what is that right-wing hairy bollocks about then?

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by canopic jug on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:56AM (9 children)

      by canopic jug (3949) on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:56AM (#1195865) Journal

      When the Dems had all the asylums around the nation shut down

      You have been misinformed and/or are making stuff up. While Reagan is to the left of many of today's Democrats, he was in no way a member of the Democrat side of The Party. It was really the Reagan administration which started the seasonal closing of the looney bins [salon.com] in 1981, legally undoing the Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 signed by Carter. Thereafter through the 1980s and 1990s it was also common practice to disperse the freshly released, mentally unsound by giving them one-way bus tickets to nearby cities, especially "blue" cities or even "blue" states [calmatters.org] where they promptly encamped on the street and lived for a little while eating from the trash and begging until succumbing to exposure, violence, drugs, or their illnesses. The closures and dispersals almost always happened during the early summer so as to best hide it from view.

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      Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
      • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:15AM (8 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:15AM (#1195868) Homepage Journal

        1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

        Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

        1965 The U.S. Congress establishes Medicaid and Medicare. Mentally disabled people living in the community are eligible for benefits but those in psychiatric hospitals are excluded. By encouraging patients to be discharged, state legislators could shift the cost of care for mentally ill patients to the federal government.

        1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

        1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo's criminal justice system doubles.

        1969 Reagan reverses earlier budget cuts. He increases spending on the Department of Mental Hygiene by a record $28 million.

        1973 The number of patients in California State mental hospitals falls to 7,000.

        1980 President Jimmy Carter signs the Mental Health Systems Act to improve on Kennedy’s dream.

        1981 President Reagan repeals Carter’s legislation with the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients back to the states. The legislation creates block grants for the states, but federal spending on mental illness declines.

        2004 The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that 10 percent of state prisoners have symptoms that meet criteria for a psychotic disorder.

        2015 In the San Francisco Homeless Count, 55 percent of people experiencing chronic homelessness report they have emotional or psychiatric conditions.

        You can't put that all at Nixon's door, no matter how you try. It started with a Dem administration, and was followed up by bleeding heart liberals who, rather than fix a broken system, just burned it down.

        https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here [kqed.org]

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        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
        • (Score: 5, Informative) by canopic jug on Saturday November 13 2021, @07:09AM (7 children)

          by canopic jug (3949) on Saturday November 13 2021, @07:09AM (#1195877) Journal

          No, of course it's not Nixon. As stated, it's clearly due to the Reagan administration. See also your own quote above and note the fallout from the 1981 misdeeds.

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          Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 13 2021, @08:49AM (6 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @08:49AM (#1195882) Homepage Journal

            Sorry, somehow typed Nixon, when I meant Raygun. But, yeah, like I pointed out, it started with the Kennedy administration.

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            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
            • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:43PM (5 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:43PM (#1195949)

              Jesus Fucking Christ, you are so tribally motivated to blame liberals for every misdeed you voted for.

              • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:11PM (4 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:11PM (#1195961) Homepage Journal

                So, which part of that first item did you fail to understand?

                1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

                Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

                Democrats haven't changed much in the last 60 years. They vote federal intervention into every aspect of life, then fail to fund it, then blame it on Republicans when their dream world turns into a latrine.

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                Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
                • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @10:34PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @10:34PM (#1195986)

                  AC was right, you are a partisan hack. I fully understand your point while you fail to understand anything beyond the GOP narrative. Thank god Rush Limbaugh is dead, but damage has been done.

                  Can conservatives break free of the fascist shackles they so wear so proudly while proclaiming they are the only real freedom lovers? Doesn't look good after 1/6, seems you're all committed to creating a theocratic state to erase all progress of the 20th century.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:31PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:31PM (#1196109)

                    Thank God Joe's brain is dead, but the damage is still being done.
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                    Fuck Kommie Harris!

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @09:04PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @09:04PM (#1196180)

                      Lol, we understand that to! Fuck Joe Biden :D Fuck Trump, fuck McConnell, fuck Pelosi, fuck all the corrupt bastards. Sadly you tribal idiots are incapable of even faking your pretend centrism.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @02:19AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @02:19AM (#1196238)

                        If "centerism" means to meet you halfway each time (and it always does), then fuck you, too.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:56PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:56PM (#1195941)

      Peculiar thing is that the left is now arguing that we are going to be required to stand there and get killed. Self-defense should be illegal, around next Wednesday... right when this year's new riots start. The first shot's free!

      Close the loony bins so the left doesn't feel like the only oddballs. There's sanity for you.

      ==
      Run and Hide, Kyle!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:14PM (#1195962)

        You have a problem with being "Bingered"? [youtube.com]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @07:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @07:48PM (#1196443)

        "You Lose the Right to Self-Defense When You’re the One Who Brought the Gun"

        - Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger

  • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Saturday November 13 2021, @01:48AM

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Saturday November 13 2021, @01:48AM (#1195824) Journal

    Everything was always wrong by design.

    That's a total breakthrough of mind equivalent to lesser enlightenment. It's transforming because it may either prompt you to die willingly (if you are weak) or seek for completely new survival strategies (if you are strong enough). Either way, renounce of passivity of being towed changes the Game of Life.
    Trust is binding. Without trusting to anything, a man is free to maneuver himself with a higher degree of freedom.

    Just don't do gun cleaning while drinking hard, that's not fair option to loose by.

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    The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:47AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:47AM (#1195840)

    Just read this fun New Yorker book review, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/08/early-civilizations-had-it-all-figured-out-the-dawn-of-everything [newyorker.com]
    The authors take on the standard model of hunter-gatherers marginalized by settlers eating grains and living in a social hierarchy, or swords into plowshares if you prefer.

    From roughly the Enlightenment through the middle of the twentieth century, these developments—which came to be known as the Neolithic Revolution—were seen as generally good things. Societies were categorized by evolutionary stage on the basis of their mode of food production and economic organization, with full-fledged states taken to be the pinnacle of progress.

    But it was also possible to think that the Neolithic Revolution was, all in all, a bad thing. In the late nineteen-sixties, ethnographers studying present-day hunter-gatherers in southern Africa argued that their “primitive” ways were not only freer and more egalitarian than the “later” stages of human development but also healthier and more fun. Agriculture required much longer and duller working hours; dense settlements and the proximity of livestock, as well as monotonous diets of cereal staples, encouraged malnutrition and disease. The poisoned fruit of grain cultivation had, in this telling, led to a cycle of population growth and more grain cultivation. Agriculture was a trap. Rousseau’s thought experiment, long written off by conservative critics as romantic nostalgia for the “noble savage,” was resuscitated, in modern, scientific form. It might have taken three or four decades for these insights to make their way to TED stages, but the paleo diet became a fundamental requirement of any self-respecting Silicon Valley founder.

    For Graeber and Wengrow, this basic story, whether relayed in a triumphal or a defeatist register, is itself a trap. If we accept that the rise of agriculture meant the rise of the state—of political élites and intricate structures of power—then all we can do is tinker around the edges. Even if we regard the Paleolithic era as a garden paradise, we know that our reëntry is forever barred. For one thing, the requirements of hunting and gathering could support only some trivial fraction of the earth’s current population. A life under government control now seems inescapable.

    ....

    Drawing on new archeological findings, and revisiting old ones, Graeber and Wengrow argue that the granaries-to-overlords tale simply isn’t true. Rather, it’s a function of an extremely low-resolution approach to time. Viewed closely, the course of human history resists our favored schemata. Hunter-gatherer communities seem to have experimented with various forms of farming as side projects thousands of years before we have any evidence of cities. Even after urban centers developed, there was nothing like an ineluctable relationship between cities, technology, and domination.

    The large town of Çatalhöyük, for example, on the Konya Plain in present-day Turkey, was settled around 7400 B.C. and seems to have been occupied for approximately fifteen hundred years—which, the authors note, is “roughly the same period of time that separates us from Amalafrida, Queen of the Vandals, who reached the height of her influence around AD 523.” The settlement was home to about five thousand people, but it had neither an obvious center nor any communal facilities. There weren’t even streets: households were densely packed together and accessed via roof ladders. The residents’ living areas were marked by a “distinctly macabre sense of interior design,” with narrow rooms outfitted with aurochs skulls and horns, along with raised platforms that encased the remains of up to sixty of the households’ dead ancestors. It was, as far as we know, one of the first large settlements to have practiced agriculture: the citizens derived most of their nutrition from cereals and beans they grew, as well as from domesticated sheep and goats. For a long time, all of this was taken together as a key example of the “agricultural revolution” in action, and the material remnants were interpreted to support the old story. Corpulent female figurines, assumed to be part of fertility rituals, were found in what were understood to be proto-religious shrines of some sort—the first indications of organized cultural systems.

    Thought provoking, well worth the read, imo.

    • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:05PM

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Saturday November 13 2021, @05:05PM (#1195944) Journal

      It's quite difficult to hit a man with a plowshare, so I still prefer a sword.

      Also, when government collapses (any model) and organized land cultivation stops it's still possible to survive a harsh winter in a forest without any additional resources, but near to impossible in a desolate city or barren land.
      That's valid for any epoch.

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      The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 13 2021, @04:12AM (#1195846)

    So I was drinking beer and eating curry. Where did it all go wrong? Life's great mysteries!

    Imagine our turgid doing this, just like one of those Brexit supporting commoners. Next he'll be enjoying banter with his fellow country-men in a public house and eating KP nuts off the bar!

    Landlord, 'tis such a cold winter, three pints of your finest ale for myself and my brethren. For we haft bravely braved the curry house and haft slayed the beast that is the vindaloo. A re-Markle twist of ginger shall surely leave us in your debt, surely incomparable to the debt of the French and the Germans. Wot? Who won the fucking war? Wot? Wanna fuckin' go you Nazi continentalist swine? [indecipherable turgid noises]

  • (Score: 1) by Frigatebird on Sunday November 14 2021, @12:32AM (4 children)

    by Frigatebird (15573) on Sunday November 14 2021, @12:32AM (#1196002)

    Was it the beer, or the curry? Or the combination, which does not seem likely.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:36AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 14 2021, @04:36AM (#1196035)

      the combination, which does not seem likely.

      A frigatebird that never experienced a spicy asshole? And that isn't just the officer class. Tell us you've never served in a navy, merchant or otherwise, without telling us you've never enjoyed curry on a beer session.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Frigatebird on Sunday November 14 2021, @05:53AM

        by Frigatebird (15573) on Sunday November 14 2021, @05:53AM (#1196041)

        Evidently, you do not know Frigatebirds, nor our digestive systems! Ha!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @08:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 15 2021, @08:24PM (#1196454)

        You know, not everyone is white.

    • (Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday November 14 2021, @10:11AM

      by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 14 2021, @10:11AM (#1196055) Journal

      In a word: stress. The beer and the curry weren't working this time. It creeps up on me. I never quite see it coming.

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