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posted by janrinok on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the just-when-you-thought-that-things-couldn't-get-worse dept.

The Economist has a short blurb on a crowd dispersal used against stone throwers in Israel.

It smells like raw sewage mixed with putrefying cow's carcass, and it might soon be Israel's latest high-tech export. Skunk, as it is appositely called, has been used by Israeli soldiers since 2008 to disperse Palestinian protesters. Now it has attracted the interest of law-enforcement agencies in America which, after riots in Ferguson and Baltimore, crave better ways to scatter rioters without killing or injuring them.

The good news is it is entirely non-toxic, and allegedly drinkable, and serves to clear the area with no injuries. There are reports of its use go back several years

Palestinians call it simply "shit."

"How can you describe this stuff?" said Muad Tamimi, whose gas station on the front line of Nabi Saleh's standoffs is often bathed in it. "It's beyond foul water, like a dead body and rotting food together, which no soap or perfume can take off - I'm hit with it and nobody goes near me for days."

The bad news, is there is some indication that US Police departments are starting to order the Feculent fragrance for their own crowd control situations.

A report this week that Skunk is now being sold to American local police departments was initially confirmed by a Maryland-based company claiming to be the vendor; but then swiftly retracted.

It remains to be seen how this "collective environmental punishment" will go over in the streets of the US where people call the police on dog walkers that fail to pick up after their pet.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:04AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:04AM (#192733)

    Friends and family will disown you and your boss will fire you, not just because you smell bad, but because you dared to disobey authority.

    OBEY OR you will have NO FRIENDS and NO FAMILY and NO FUTURE.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:37AM (#192750)

      You sound like one of those "independent libertarians" who, well, just happens to depend heavily on your employer, your family, your friends, and especially the government.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:42AM (#192751)

        As opposed to you, small business owner with a shop on the corner. Uh-oh, Walmart's coming to town. No more customers for you. Whatever will you do, successful businessman dependent on no one?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:22AM (#192786)

        Anti-authoritarianism is not indicative of libertarian sentiment, in fact the later is very compatible with authoritarian governance since it only insists on economic freedom. An oligarchic corporocracy is the wet dream of right-wing libertarians.

    • (Score: 2) by davester666 on Sunday June 07 2015, @08:44AM

      by davester666 (155) on Sunday June 07 2015, @08:44AM (#193177)

      So, you are saying there is no downside for me to disobey authority...

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:05AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:05AM (#192734)

    law-enforcement agencies in America which, after riots in Ferguson and Baltimore, crave better ways to scatter rioters without killing or injuring them.

    Having ethics to try preventing and the integrity to arrest police officers after they murder unarmed people would do the trick.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:08AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:08AM (#192736) Homepage

      Speaking of ethnics, this kind of thing won't have any negative effect on American ethnics because they smoke the skunk (weed*, that is) on a daily basis and not only raw but in flavored blunt-wraps. If anything this new formula would have the same effect as catnip on a cat.

      * Slang for Marihuana

      • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:12AM

        by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:12AM (#192738) Journal

        I prefer purple haze myself. Then there's chronic. ymmv

        Wait… isn't TFS actually talking about jenkem [wikipedia.org]?

        *ducks*

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:14AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:14AM (#192741)

        If your weed smells like shit, your dealer is taking you for a ride, cat.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:49AM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:49AM (#192770)
        It's Friday and Ethanol-Fueled needs attention.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:55AM (#192773)

          But wait, isn't Ethanol-Fueled a unemployed drunken loser? How can you be sure I even know it is Friday?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:03AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:03AM (#192775)

            I'm plenty gay! You square peg hole.

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:02AM

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:02AM (#192774) Homepage

          I agree, get rid of the bastard, so nobody here will be offended, ever. [google.com] Ban him for life.

          Things will be happy that way.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:24AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:24AM (#192787)

            The link in parent comment is NSFW.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @05:42AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @05:42AM (#192799)

              With a tiny winky like that, I wouldn't put a pic on the internet.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:00PM (#192864)

        Speaking of ethnics, this kind of thing won't have any negative effect on American ethnics

        Fart spray makes you more ethical:

        In their first experiment, participants read the vignettes while being exposed either to a lot of fart spray (“strong stink” condition), a little fart spray (“mild stink” condition), or no fart spray (control). The fart spray was supposed to induce disgust, which, under Haidt’s theory, is associated with immorality. Therefore, the fart spray should increase the severity of moral judgments. Consistent with this hypothesis, for three of the five vignettes in the mild stink condition, and two of the five in the strong stink condition, participants’ acceptability ratings (i.e., they rated actions like sex with a first cousin as being more immoral) decreased relative to the control condition.

        http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2008/07/09/fart-spray-and-disgust-more-ge/ [scienceblogs.com]

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:12AM (#192739)

    Seems like if you are sprayed with this stuff that is just the cops' way of inviting you to come down to the station and sit politely in their lobby.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:19AM (#192744)

      Stinking up the lobby is disorderly conduct. Into the cells with you, criminal.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:31PM (#192869)

        Unless the cells are on a separate A/C system that doesn't seem like a good option. Wonder if that stuff transfers easily while the prisoner is being assaulted/arrested/booked?

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:13AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:13AM (#192740) Homepage Journal

    I can see the point of this if one is not peaceable.

    If this is ever used on peaceable protestors it will be a case for the Supreme Court.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:17AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:17AM (#192743)

      You think you have rights? You don't have any rights. Your fellow Americans forfeited your rights when they elected Bush Jr. Try to keep up with the times please.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:25AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:25AM (#192746) Homepage Journal

        Consider their recent decision that the police can't make you wait around for a drug sniffing dog to arrive.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:33AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:33AM (#192748)

          but everything else is the worst injustice in history!

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:51AM

        by jmorris (4844) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:51AM (#192754)

        Bush? Really? The Constitution was pretty much null and void by the time President Wilson put it out its misery. Tis been dead long before anyone posting here was born, before most of our parents.

        It is just since the 'return to normalcy' backlash after Wilson they all went to a lot of trouble to pretend we still followed it, lately the pretending got old and/or they figured everyone who got all riled up back then was now dead so they could drop the pretense again. Expect a rinse and repeat.... of the lying part.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:59AM (#192757)

          Wilson, really? Have you forgotten how Lincoln trampled states' rights, declared martial law, suspended habeas corpus, declared war on fellow citizens?

          • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:16AM

            by jmorris (4844) on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:16AM (#192759)

            No I didn't. Somebody has reading difficulties but it ain't me. Wilson 'put it out of its misery' kinda implies (remember, Reading Is Fundamental) that it was mostly dead already. It is just that bringing up the crimes of Lincoln almost always diverts the discussion into yells of RACIST and nothing useful comes of the rest of the thread. But if you want to remind everyone Lincoln pretty much did the whole Vader "I have changed the bargain, pray I do not change it further." bit then I certainly won't argue the point.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:21AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:21AM (#192761)

              Lincoln was worse than Hitler.

          • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday June 08 2015, @10:32PM

            the constitution allows it to be suspended during insurrections.

            Smithsonian magazine made a good case of the civil war not being about states' rights as is commonly claimed these days, but about slavery.

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      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:26AM (#192780)

        Yeah. Remember all those race riots while W was in office? Me neither.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by khallow on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:35AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:35AM (#192749) Journal
      They already have tools like tear gas to break up violent protests. When you consider that police departments often employ undercover officers in protests, they can invent a ready made pretext, via agent provocateurs, to hose peaceful protests down. Plus, where's the violent protests that justify use of this weapon? I doubt this will actually make matters better.
  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:16AM (#192742)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:11AM (#192776)

      Waste of money. It's easily made with Baking Soda, Sulfur, and water.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @05:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @05:26AM (#192798)

        [Citation needed], unless you're joking that such a mixture is a worthy substitute for skatole.
        Just googling around, true skatole synthesis requires precursors that aren't sitting around
        in your kitchen... unless you count your own ability to produce the stuff.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:06PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:06PM (#192894)

          I learned this in high school chemistry. It smells like fishy poop. That skatole website looks like a ripoff and the OP is probably connected to it in some way to boost sales for something that can be made at 1/10th the cost. The sulfur in the recipe can be found in some fertilizers.

  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:22AM (#192745)

    Why not simply use post-treatment sewage instead? Fucking morons.

    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:40AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Saturday June 06 2015, @04:40AM (#192788) Homepage

      In case the question is serious -- post-treatment sewage is not necessarily free of pathogens, and is loaded with bacteria that can cause serious illness or even death should they enter a wound or get into your eyes or lungs.

      --
      And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:28AM (#192747)

    Which is apt because the biblical Hell referred to a flaming garbage dump outside Jerusalem.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @08:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @08:45AM (#192817)

      Gehenna? I don't want to go to Gehenna!

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by penguinoid on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:48AM

    by penguinoid (5331) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:48AM (#192752)

    After the police inevitably use this to disperse a peaceful protest, you can spray other people to automatically mark them as having participated in the protest.

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:51AM (#192753)

      Guilt by association doesn't work in our enlightened society, surely.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:04AM (#192804)

        Guilt by association doesn't work in our enlightened society, surely.

        Unfortunately, it's a useful way of destroying reputations.

        And don't call me "Shirley".

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:26AM

      by looorg (578) on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:26AM (#192763)

      If they have not already they will eventually add some dye that won't wash out for days or one that glows under black-light (or similar). "We can see here that you attended the unlawful protest that turned into a riot and looting ..."

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:34AM (#192764)

        Send your personal telepresence robot to attend the protest instead.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by TheLink on Saturday June 06 2015, @11:32AM

          by TheLink (332) on Saturday June 06 2015, @11:32AM (#192849) Journal
          Yeah I wonder why people in the USA are still sticking to traditional forms of protesting. There are so many other ways of doing it.

          I'd thought that some of the car-happy bunch would be doing stuff like driving around the target's home or something - the cops could tell you to drive off, or find some reason to stop you and arrest you for some made up crime (make sure you have car cams), but if there are a lot of you, the whole place would be gridlocked whether they like it or not :).
          • (Score: 1) by KGIII on Sunday June 07 2015, @09:56AM

            by KGIII (5261) on Sunday June 07 2015, @09:56AM (#193202) Journal

            I figure if we get a million cars, not people, and have them all try to park as close to the White House as they can, at the exact same time (GPS is good for this), and then all of us just sit in our cars and not move them then we *should* at least get a little attention. It would probably be best to just prepare to pay the towing/storage costs and exit the vehicles peacefully, leave them there, amd then go camp on the mall or something.

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            "So long and thanks for all the fish."
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 08 2015, @09:33PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 08 2015, @09:33PM (#193824)

              Sounds like a good way to get shot, to me.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_%282013%29 [wikipedia.org]

              • (Score: 1) by KGIII on Tuesday June 09 2015, @02:23AM

                by KGIII (5261) on Tuesday June 09 2015, @02:23AM (#193897) Journal

                We should stop at designated areas and depart our vehicles peacefully. All of us. A million of us in our own cars. As the person who proposed this, I will risk my life and get out of the vehicle first. However, I will not be running into/over security personnel and I will not be going past clearly marked signage that warns me about proceeding further. I am not sure that they needed to do what they did to the person in your linked article but I can understand why they did it.

                I also do not know why they took the injured security worker to the hospital via helicopter when the injuries were not life-threatening. I suppose it made better theatrics at the time.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by rigrig on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:42AM

    by rigrig (5129) <soylentnews@tubul.net> on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:42AM (#192766) Homepage

    It remains to be seen how this "collective environmental punishment" will go over in the streets of the US where people call the police on dog walkers that fail to pick up after their pet.

    Are there crowds of dog walkers that refuse to pick up after their dogs, or am I missing some other way this is relevant?

    Completely unrelated: (disclaimer: I don't know how it works in the US, and I don't have a pet myself) If your society decided it doesn't want excrement all over the place, and created laws that say you can't let your pet crap all over the place and leave it there, calling the police seems the civilized reaction to someone leaving shit in your neighbourhood. (especially if you're paid to look after said pet)

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    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @02:51AM (#192771)

      Well, no. The civilized reaction is to raise the topic at the next town council meeting and suggest signs be posted reminding folks to "please pick up after your pet." The uncivilized reaction is to carry a gun around the neighborhood to shoot pets and their owners. Calling the police lies somewhere in between.

      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:44AM

        by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:44AM (#192781)

        The civilized solution could be to spray it with this stuff. That might doubly get the point across.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:30PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:30PM (#192868)

        There's usually signs already posted. The dog owners are simply assholes who don't feel like picking up after their pets. So calling the police seems to be the only realistic answer; when people are assholes like that, the only thing which will make them change their ways is the threat of force.

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Grishnakh on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:34PM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday June 06 2015, @01:34PM (#192870)

      Are there crowds of dog walkers that refuse to pick up after their dogs,

      Yes. This is America, where a large portion of the population is composed of self-centered assholes who don't feel like doing anything they aren't literally forced to (like by armed policepeople), because they think it's "beneath them" and someone else should do it. These people tend to be upper-middle-class white people.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:18AM (#192778)

    Civil War II is necessary.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @03:20AM (#192779)

      Why don't you blog about it?

  • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:17AM

    by shortscreen (2252) on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:17AM (#192807) Journal

    If police used this in the USA they'd probably get hit with lawsuits from business owners claiming lost business due to the lingering stench.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @03:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @03:24PM (#193271)

      Police using anything seems to generate lawsuits.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @06:24AM (#192808)

    So, just like DDT then...

    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday June 06 2015, @08:49AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday June 06 2015, @08:49AM (#192818) Journal

      Sea Shepard has been using this stuff against fish pirates all around the world for quite a while. If it's good enough for criminals on the high seas, it's good enough for criminals on the high seats.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @09:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2015, @09:22AM (#192824)

    American pigs already smell like shit, except when they smell like Krispy Kreme donuts.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 06 2015, @12:30PM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday June 06 2015, @12:30PM (#192859) Journal

    I'm sure things get interesting if the wind turns …

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by rickatech on Saturday June 06 2015, @10:26PM

    by rickatech (4150) on Saturday June 06 2015, @10:26PM (#193024)

    Sci-Fi storiy uses permanent stink as form of criminal punishment to convict's body.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_Heads [wikipedia.org]