Terrorists have attacked the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum and Iranian parliament in two nearly simultaneous incidents:
There have been multiple attacks in the Iranian capital of Tehran, according to state media. A woman was arrested after a bomb attack and shooting spree wounded two people at the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum south of the city Wednesday, the semi-official Fars news agency reports. The news agency reported that a second attacker is currently surrounded by security officers.
That attack occurred at the same time as a shooting in the Iranian parliament, in which at least three people were injured after an attacker stormed the building in central Tehran, according to state-run Press TV.
Also at Washington Post, BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera, and Tehran Times.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:28PM (23 children)
The Al Jazeera story says that ISIS claimed to have made the attack.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:47PM (15 children)
Are you sure? It might be a bunch of Christian white supremacists!! Why would you be so quick to assume that DAESH is responsible? Just because they say so, doesn't make it so. /sarcasm
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:54PM (2 children)
Well, stats are pretty clear that Americans kill Americans, Europeans kill Europeans, and Middle-East people kill each other.
Statistically, a young Iranian raised in a Muslim family is likely the culprit of a crime in Tehran.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday June 08 2017, @06:49AM
Exactly. I kill me! [youtu.be]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:45PM
"Americans kill Americans, Europeans kill Europeans, and Middle-East people kill each other."
And everybody kills the Jews
But during national brotherhood week...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by ikanreed on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:50PM (7 children)
Look, buddy, we know people who are ideologically in lock-step with you are killing americans every month. Your sarcasm is unwarranted.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:47PM (6 children)
Unwarranted, you say? Did you check with NCIS?
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:59PM (5 children)
Unwarranted I say. Plenty of white supremacist terrorist fucks.
And they're all pretty much the exact same kinda person as you, only more willing to take action. Your ideology sucks, runaway. It sucks so hard.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:13AM (4 children)
"same kinda person as you"
Your ignorance is showing.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday June 08 2017, @03:34PM (3 children)
No, I've seen your posts. I don't mean "conservatism", even if that's descended from "mostly wrong" to "active trying to be wrong about things" over the past 30 years. I mean this identitarian worldview, hinged entirely on flagellating visible differences with other cultures as inherent inferiorities of those cultures, coupled with a fundamentally authoritarian attitude, when given the "right" authorities.
It's indistinguishable except in implementation.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:18PM (2 children)
Actually, I don't think I've ever characterized Islam as "inferior" to our way of life. Islam actually has some things going for it, that seem superior to our way. What I have stated, repeatedly, and very clearly, is that Islam is incompatible with the western way of life. Islam is anathema to every judicial system that western man has experimented with, beginning with the Code of Hamarabai, and continuing on through current US Code.
In Islam, there are no rights. There is only submission. Submit to the will of Allah, as interpreted by the leading imams of the time. Submit, or die.
Take the worst of the worst that Christianity has ever been accused of, subtract all of Christianity's best traits, and you have Islam.
People think that the Christian inquisitions were a bad thing. In Saudi Arabia, the inquisitions continue, daily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GsG4y7JoQY [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IEH0BLuDbI [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:26PM
Yeah, fine, I get it, your flavour of identitarian exclusionism is totes special and unique to you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:45PM
Gotta agree with ikanreed here, you have a lot of decent viewpoints and quite a few good arguments from time to time; but then you sneak in with some weirdly pro-authoritarian garbage from time to time. My guess is it is latent brainwashing from your stint in the military, plus your older generation simply seems to take a lot of authoritarian beliefs for granted. So you probably have no idea and think its just normal. Can the fish see the bowl?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:56PM (3 children)
What I wrote was:
Were I sure that they were responsible, I would have written "ISIS did it." When I use the word "claim" I'm indicating doubt.
-- https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/claim [oxforddictionaries.com]
According to one of the stories, they provided a video. If you mean to imply that I ought to have assumed that they did it, and the fact that they claimed to have done the attack was not noteworthy, I disagree. They didn't claim to have done the recent attacks in Afghanistan; as far as I know no one has. So I thought that the claim of responsibility was noteworthy.
I'm unsure what you're hinting at with the mention of "a bunch of Christian white supremacists." Christians in Iran are a small minority, and many of them are Armenian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran#Current_situation [wikipedia.org]
I'm unsure whether you deem Armenians white. In the last century, Iran was occupied by the Russians, the British, and the Soviet Union. The first two would qualify as white, Christian countries, I'd say. Perhaps you're ridiculing me because I've submitted stories about the white supremacy movement in the United States? I've also submitted stories here about violence that appeared to have been done by Muslims; the editors didn't deem them newsworthy.
/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=20424 [soylentnews.org]
/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=13387 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by calmond on Thursday June 08 2017, @03:41PM
This kind of crap is exactly why I don't post.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:49PM (1 child)
So we often here calls for more stories, so why would your two stories not be news but this one is? Or some of the other lame stories TMB submits in order to troll people? I've had stories that didn't make it in that seemed like easy wins. What gives?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Friday June 09 2017, @01:21AM
An editor sent me a note about the Jakarta story. The note has disappeared now (my messages disappear more quickly than they ought to) but I recall that it was to the effect that that sort of attack was a fairly typical occurrence for that part of the world. As for the story about the Dhaka attack, I don't recall clearly, but I think there was a note saying it was rejected because the event happened in Bangladesh. I've also gotten a note saying that too many "political" stories were being submitted; that note has also disappeared, but the sentiment was expressed in a comment by one of the editors:
-- /politics/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=18256&page=2&cid=473669#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
When I submitted several stories that weren't about science or technology, they were removed from the queue without being explicitly rejected. I thought it was a bug, but NCommander explained that it's an option the editors have, which isn't normally used to indicate rejection:
/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=19640&page=1&cid=516941#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:52PM
So... Saudi Arabia, no? A shot across the bow for supporting Qatar?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:09PM (5 children)
Not surprising: ISIS claims responsibility for anything that could be remotely them. Among the tiny minority people in the Muslim world that like to pull this kind of stuff, this is great propaganda for them. ISIS, among other things, sees the Iranians as not Muslim, in no small part because Iran declared ISIS not Muslim a long time ago and helped Iraq and Syria fight them in one of the most significant commitments of forces since the 1979 revolution.
Also, if ISIS did in fact carry this one out, and did in fact have anything to do with what's been going down in Britain (both of those are open for question at this point), their reason for shifting to terrorism would have a lot to do with the fact that they're losing militarily. Any of the ISIS leadership still in what used to be their capital, Mosul, are surrounded and under siege in the very center of the city. The Iraqi and Kurdish forces are steadily pushing them back to the Syrian border. And on the Syrian side, both the Assad government and rebel groups are attacking ISIS and pushing them back as well. As the bad guys get desperate, they lash out with whatever they can muster, and probably gave the word to carry out any terrorist attacks they could because HQ doesn't have much time left.
I sincerely hope the Trump administration doesn't change course significantly when it comes to ISIS, because the aftermath will be much much better if the local forces crush them than if those foreign infidels win. For instance, Iraq now seems to have an army that can and will fight and fight well, and that's important in preventing this from happening again.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:39PM
'Is Muslim, isn't Muslim'... Who the hell cares?! [thehindu.com]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by Arik on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:04PM (2 children)
While it's no doubt true that ISIS see Shiite Iranians as infidels, it actually has nothing at all to do with the Iranians returning the favor, as it's a theological stance that's a couple of hundred years old and the Iranian response is much more recent.
ISIS regard Shiites of all form as infidels, more or less. That's little if any different from how they feel about traditional Sunnis either. You have to remember that this all starts with al-Wahhab in the 18th century, out in the desert, deciding that the entirety of Islam, every school, every ruler, every tradition, every Imam, they're *all* effectively infidels to these guys.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:13PM (1 child)
My experience is that convenience and military necessity tend to trump ideology in wartime. If the Iranians had been offering help to ISIS rather than their enemies, I'm pretty sure that ISIS would have found a way to be OK with Shiites. It's sort of like how between 1938 and 1948 in the US, the USSR went from being Irredeemable Bad Guys to being our brave and noble ally against the Axis powers to being Irredeemable Bad Guys again.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:57PM
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by quietus on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:37PM
ISIS already claimed responsibility for the attack when it was happening -- showing a video from inside the Parliament (while the attack was occurring).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:31PM
This is a covfefe. No matter who losses, we win!
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @05:56PM (42 children)
Arms reaching out, in our prayers, stay strong!
No? No sympathy or condemnations?
So when terrorists attack a western country its all about sympathy and anger with very little critical thinking. When its the middle east suddenly the armchair experts are predicting why they did it?
Lemme guess: they're muslim so they brought it on themselves! We're christian which is why we totally have no clue about what Jesus taught. Wait what?
Hypocrites
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:26PM (35 children)
I just think it's interesting how we only ever cover murder-while-brown on this site.
Within a few days three people were stabbed to death in on incident. Five people were shot to death in another incident. Which one did we cover?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:47PM (33 children)
Pissed off Bernie Sanders supporter.
Psychopathic former employee.
Mass murder being committed worldwide in the name of Islam, on an almost daily basis, is more newsworthy. Currently averaging around 60 islamist murders a day during this years ramadan. Don't let the shocking number of victims put you off your racism narrative though.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:03PM (19 children)
Another sucker sticks his nose out. Compare that /day rate to population size. Besides, using religion as a scapegoat is the #1 used strategy of all time. Who cares about a little racism and the murders of innocent locals, we need to be outraged about a problem that statistically does not matter for any locals outside the middle east. We can't discuss the systemic problems that have lead us to this point, we need to focus on bombing the shit out of the area some more while justifying rampant bigotry which will totally not bite us in the ass.
Number of victims? Hahahaha pleeeease, ousting Saddam Hussein with the Iraq War over bullshit lies about WMD takes the prize many times over: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War [wikipedia.org]
But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your bigotry.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:13PM (18 children)
Evidence to the contary. [twitter.com]
I did not support the war in Iraq, very few westerners did. It was a war, not civilians being murdered while socialising during peace time.
You appear to be the one with the preconceptions here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:26PM (5 children)
Statistically you goof. Terrorist attacks are scary, but statistically you're more likely to die from just about anything else. You're pushing a narrative of fear and xenophobia unfounded in reality, my counter example of the Iraq War was to point out the hypocrisy and ignorance of your stance. It doesn't matter if you supported it, your country did it! If you're not in the US then you're country probably participated, or at least condoned it. To ignore a war started on false pretenses is absurd. To ignore the responsibility the major world players have in the Middle East is willful ignorance.
You're equating a huge percentage of the world's population (muslims) with the extremists. That is like me accusing you of being a KKK member who bombs abortion clinics and curb stomps gays. All I did was call out your bigotry, specifically bigotry since I can't claim you're racist. Currently you're just bigoted against muslims it would seem. What about illegal mexican immigrants? Are they all rapists, thieves and murderers?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:39PM (1 child)
In the UK today, we've had a nursery worker slashed with a knife by three females "for Allah", a youth with a machete apprehended by police in Barking and reports of a similar incident in Luton.
Do you mean "for"? Yet almost nobody supports interventionist geopolitik.
The word I used was "islamist". [oxforddictionaries.com]
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 08 2017, @03:43AM
You actually have a place called Barking? That's apropos somehow. I'd like to think that's an example of dry British self-deprecation.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:03PM (2 children)
OK genius here is a list of random causes of death:
Death by Police
Auto Accident
Airplane Crash
Bathtub Slip and Fall
Carbon Monoxide Poisoning
Terrorism
Now let's say I really wish to avoid being a statistic and I do some of the following:
Not own a bathtub, I'm fine with showers
Obey the fucking Law
Avoid Air travel
Don't own a car or drive anywhere
Change batteries in my Carbon Monoxide Detector religiously
Now genius do pray tell how do I avoid dying from terrorism?
I have a likely solution, but you are not going to like it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:28PM
kill everyone? I'm all for a humanity culling, but the only you'll be safe is to kill absolutely everyone on the planet, except yourself. So it doesn't matter whether we like it, do YOU?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Roger Murdock on Thursday June 08 2017, @05:52AM
I have a likely solution, but you are not going to like it: Carry on with your life as normal. Do not panic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:28PM (5 children)
Really?
You are the one who thinks the guy in portland attacked those muslim women because bernie sanders told him to hate muslims.
Putting the blame on sanders is like putting the blame on the chocolate bars the guy liked to eat.
However there was another candidate with a message the guy really liked too. Guess who that was?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:45PM (4 children)
No, I never stated that and have read a number of articles on the guy. Politically he was all over the place, there was simply no coherent political ideology or motivation behind his behaviour.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:24PM (3 children)
Ah, literalism! The last refuge of the online coward: I never said that I just implied it by citing this totally unrelated fact right in the middle of saying the attacks weren't racist.
Hey, I can be disingenuous too, hold my beer: I never said you stated that either. I said you think it! Totally different thing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:54PM (2 children)
Yes, literalism. As opposed to people taking comments completely out of context to score political points. If you want to know why I stated he was a Bernie Bro, I already did: he had no coherent political ideology but the media insist on creating a false narrative to frame all conservatives as "far right". This murderer did, factually, express support for Sanders/Stein on his facebook page. Just a crazy person who is now claiming he acted in self defence.
(Score: 2) by Ezber Bozmak on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:54PM
So what?
Most people do not have a "coherent political ideology."
Just look at all the fiscally conservative republicans who voted for a guy who said he would provide "health insurance for everyone" and that "the government is going to pay for it." [youtube.com]
The fact is that Jeremy Christian specifically embraced Don the Con's message of hate towards muslims. No other candidate was selling that message.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:58PM
Filter error: Flame wars are bad for the community
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:03PM (5 children)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_peace
It's possible to be murdered even when one is not socializing during peace time, btw.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:21PM (2 children)
Not a chance with the resolution! [wikipedia.org] Unfortunately.
Yes, thank you for pointing that out ;)
(Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:35PM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1441#Security_Council_vote
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @09:18PM
We all know the story, that resolution was never anything but a pretext and veil of legitimacy. The US and UK lied to get it passed, were never sanctioned and likely never will be.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:07AM (1 child)
Nope wasn't a war. We called it one, but for various reasons didn't make it official.
Besides that, how does that make it any better? Was a war built on lies, and the casualties were way higher than every terrorist attack combined from the last 100 years.
I'm sure the civilians that got bombed by aircraft felt so much better about it. "Well what can we do? Its war! We can't be angry at the Americans, its just war after all. Gotta break a few eggs for the omelette of democracy!"
It is fundamental disconnects and bad rationale that cause these massive divisions in these discussions. Sometimes there is room for different opinions but not in this case. The US perpetrated a massive campaign of terror against Iraq using massive deception and you can't wave it off just because it was backed by the most powerful government. That is tribal thinking, "well we're the good guys sooooo yeah, suck it!"
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:44AM
If I had my way, it wouldn't have happened. Even then all the PNAC, zionist nut jobs involved should be in prison. It's not happening is it? They got their resolution, they used it to go war and the UN is so toothless as to be a complete joke.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:48PM (12 children)
Currently averaging around 60 islamist murders a day during this years ramadan.
[CITATION NEEDED]
Even assuming you're unsupported assertion is correct how does that compare to the US murder rate of 44 murders per day on all 365 days of the year? [reference.com]
Keep in mind that only 1 per every 4-days can be attributed to terrorism (by all religions). [cato.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:34PM (10 children)
712 / 12 = 59.3333333 [thereligionofpeace.com]
It's about 75%? A disturbing increase since 2007. [economist.com]
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:41PM (9 children)
[CITATION STILL NEEDED]
A random jpeg also making an unsupported assertion is not a citation.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @09:23PM (6 children)
I am unsupported assertion huh? Here's the list, [thereligionofpeace.com] ramadan started on May 27th.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:01PM (5 children)
[CITATION STILL NEEDED]
That link does not support your claim.
But, let's take this non-sequitur at face value.
Last 30 Days - During this time period, there were 190 Islamic attacks in 27 countries, in which 1535 people were killed and 1806 injured.
That's 51 per day. So, you need to combine 27 countries in order to beat the US murder rate by 6.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:45PM (1 child)
It's the exact same data (constant updates) used to create the graphic (updated daily).
Many of US homicides are gang related and concentrated in certain neighbourhoods. Take Chicago [heyjackass.com] (see most violent hoods stat) and figure out how that violence can be brought under control. Your claims amount to false equivalence and certainly in Western Europe, US style mass murders are extremely rare. Terrorism, not so rare.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:09PM
I just did a quick addition for you; running average 767 / 13 = 59.
(Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:20PM (2 children)
OK so you are saying the numbers are acceptable given the US homicide rate?
Just out of curiosity, what would be an unacceptable level of Islamic terrorism for you?
(Score: 2) by Ezber Bozmak on Thursday June 08 2017, @12:00AM (1 child)
His point is that the numbers are not out of the ordinary. Particularly given that source's propensity categorize any muslim behaving badly as solely a consequence of his muslimness.
Statistics without context are meaningless at best, and dishonest at worst. Or, as Samuel Clemens said, "Lies, damn lies and statistics."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @01:39AM
Salifism -- this is jihad dickhead! Don't worry, it's only explained on the site; [thereligionofpeace.com] The web site you couldn't be bothered to read before accusing others of bigotry. You fucking bigot!
Or as that quote attributed to Stalin [quoteinvestigator.com] said; "a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic".
I disagree. The US needs to sort out the death tolls in St Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans and Chicago. The world needs to sort out the death toll due to jihad.
I do not care if you disagree with me and are pro-murder. I will speak up and out against this bullshit; You just have yourself a nice day!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @09:24PM
Haven't you been paying attention? The pepes memed don the con into the whitehouse.
Jpegs are more powerful and authoritative than any other source in the world. The entire freakin world!#$!%!!
Respect my jpeg's authoritay!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @07:46AM
Here you are with the past month's list:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30 [thereligionofpeace.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @04:02PM
And 3000 per day die on the roads... but that's normal, so carry on. And in US, similar number as cars die from gun violence, but that's normal too, so carry on. God forbid "islamist" kill a few in mostly unstable areas of the world (like Iraq, thanks GWB!), then everyone goes crazy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:55PM
Police shootings have been covered quite a bit before, but I agree the trend on this site is the more politically divisive stories. The middle east is a bigger deal right now, the world is gearing up for WW3 so naturally people will be more interested in stories involving that area. Of course a lot of the western attacks should be treated as local news on par with other local violence, but that misses a great opportunity for propaganda!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:22PM
The day of 9-11 Iran held candle-light vigils for America and both Ayatollah Khamenei and President Khatami officially condemned it. [wordpress.com]
Our buddies, the saudis? Oddly silent.
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:30PM
Good point, can you point me to where you submitted an article on the subject?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Sulla on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:37PM (1 child)
I am actually more bothered by this attack than I am the attacks that occurred in the West. I guess at this point I am so jaded toward Europe that I just assume their terrible decisions will lead to excessive deaths. I tend to have a level of respect toward Iran that I suppose most other people (in the west) do not have. Iran has been trying to recover from endless western meddling and yet their people are not themselves anti-America. I remember articles from back in the days of the other site about setting up VPN services for individuals in Iran to use to get around government firewalls and monitoring.
Iran is an educated country trying to navigate a cold war world where they are torn between the Bear and the Eagle. The ramifications of this terrorist attack will be interesting to see play out.
Interesting to see how this took place right after they offered support to Qatar. Suddenly when Iran makes a move against an expansionist action from the Saudis they are attacked by people funded by radical Saudis.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @02:21PM
I've met and worked with several Iranians over the years. They have, without exception, been really nice people.
(Score: 1) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday June 08 2017, @06:37AM
I'm locked out of my other account, so I'll say it from this one. The violent attacks in Teheran on Wednesday are unacceptable. The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance. Our prayers are w/ them. — President Trump (@POTUS) Saying this as the President.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday June 08 2017, @10:28AM
> No? No sympathy or condemnations?
Given that public opinion is a convenient abstraction, what makes you know the way people are feeling about this?
If people got rid of ISIS, by also enforcing fake refugee control, instead of letting them export oil and turning the world into a big police state, I would not mind if Iran were part of the effort. We can sort out the nuke problem later.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Touché) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:02PM (6 children)
Time to put a transparent Iranian flag across my farcebook profile picture.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:33PM (5 children)
How about a burning one? Better yet one with a big red target superimposed over it.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:05PM (4 children)
Do you feel better? Do we need to get you your own personal drone control unit? Let you go apply your big red target? /sarcasm
Middle Eastern sponsored terrorism is horrible, but I don't see your Western terrorism being any better.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @10:58PM (3 children)
As far as I care, you can turn the entire area into fused glass.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @11:48PM (2 children)
Said without irony I presume. You do realize this puts you on the same level as the terrorists right? Actually scratch that, you probably aren't willing to put your own life at risk, so really you're just a cowardly terrorist hiding behind a keyboard advocating genocide.
Get it yet?
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday June 08 2017, @10:32AM (1 child)
> same level as the terrorists
almost at the same level. Both react against mostly the wrong people, but glassing the caliphate is surely more accurate than targeting civilians in retaliation for attacks decided by entirely other levels.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2017, @05:13PM
Intellectual masturbation takes a wrong turn! When you find yourself defending genocide in any manner that isn't comedy then it is probably time to re-evaluate the conversation.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:27PM
In the old days (peak W), we had proper terrorist suicide attacks, I'm telling you, with airplanes and lovingly crafted truck bombs ...
Where's the worker pride and dignity in resorting to hammers, knives and driving vans into crowds? Get those those lazy millennials off my cloud!
(Score: 1, Redundant) by epitaxial on Wednesday June 07 2017, @06:58PM (9 children)
What does this have to do with tech news?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:09PM
It is either human nature, divisive propaganda tactics, or a mix of both. Not gonna stop, just filter out political stories and ignore the shitstorm.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @07:22PM (2 children)
Terrorists need technology to kill, and also to spread the news of their deeds. Without technology there would be no terrorism.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by epitaxial on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:13PM (1 child)
I dunno, the bible and koran did a decent job for two thousand years.
(Score: 1) by pr on Friday June 09 2017, @12:31AM
Books and writing were advanced technology once.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by n1 on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:11PM
Soylent News... is people!
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:12PM
It's a Big Deal™.
Here's an article you can comment on: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=17/06/06/2212204 [soylentnews.org]
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:14PM (1 child)
Its a hell of a stretch to extend all the way to domestic fracking natgas but not too far.
The whole thing with Iran and Qatar is too complicated to summarize into less than a couple books. None the less...
Iran and Qatar split 50:50 the biggest natgas deposit known on the planet. So they're economically joined at the hip.
NGOs in the sandbox are a confusing mess. Generally the Wahabbi (sorry for spelling) Saudi group kinda sorta competes with and/or hates and/or wants to genocide the Muslim Brotherhood and vice versa. The Wahabbi who land planes in American skyscrapers are allied super close with the Saudis. The Bros (would they be offended at being called "the bros?" I suppose I don't care) are not allied with but are kinda friendly with the Shi in Iran.
Now things get weird. The Bros used to be super moderate non-extremists kind of like the red cross or something. I mean, truly, a couple decades ago they were chill. And The Whabaibi freaking hate us and land planes in our skyscrapers and are basically buddies/cousins of ISIS. So naturally you'd think we'd ally with the Bros and nuke the Wababhai from orbit just to be sure. But the USA is a mere province controlled utterly and totally by Israel, so we have to love the Saudis and hate the Iranians because the Israelis say so.
Also the Bro-hood has, like the rest of the middle east, somewhat radicalized over time. So just because the bro's in 1990 were quite literally analogous to our FreeMasons in that they hang out and fund hospitals and are generally nice guys, today in 2017 honestly the Bro's are fractured enough I can't say for certain they're good buys or bad guys.
Its amazing really how much the First Gulf War pissed off the muslims, even the bro-hood went from cautious buddies with the west to "wtf you thinking, 'merica?"
But the Saudis hate the the brohood so we have to, too.
There's also an aspect of old money vs new money. SA is doomed, they pumped it and they got nuthin and the revolution will involve beheading the current king its gonna be a bad scene. They just signed a deal to get a buttload of western (OK, ... USA) weapons. Qatar rocks and is a nice westernized (ish) civilized (by middle east standards) country.
Naturally Israel tries to destroy any and all civilized high living standard countries for competitive advantage, maybe just because they're assholes, I donno. So Isreal, her client state the USA, SA all want to invade Qatar and take her half of the natgas for themselves. Meanwhile the Iranians want to help their ally.
In the long run if the SA/I/USA axis of evil takes over Qatar, first of all Iran might come in shooting and that might be messy. But assuming we avoid WW3 if we have the worlds biggest natgas deposit that has domestic implications WRT the rate of frac-ing and domestic natgas production. Or if the axis of evil (including us) were to lose, then Iran/Qatar (and frankly, Russia) can flood the market destroying our frac-ing industry.
I mean, either way you look at it, domestic frac-ing seems doomed in the medium term? In what outcome is it not doomed? I mean if the only possible way for domestic frac-ing to survive involves Israel nuking or getting nuked such that the whole M.E. is shut down, thats a mess.
Or what happens to the financial markets when the big spending S.A. regime falls as will happen within a decade unless they take over Qatar and essentially steal their natgas?
There are interesting tech aspects.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2017, @09:27PM
I am schizophrenic, no I'm not!
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday June 07 2017, @08:32PM
Submit tech articles if you have them. I'd like to see more too, but there haven't been as many recently.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Pax on Wednesday June 07 2017, @09:43PM
seeing as how suicide bombers first exploded onto the scene* IN Iran and then exported worldwide and now it's finally bounced back on them!
*yeah.. shit pun and I meant it!