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posted by martyb on Monday April 01 2019, @04:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the hope-she-has-help-with-child-care dept.

A Bangladeshi woman gave birth normally and left the hospital, only to return and give birth to fraternal twins less than a month later.

the mom wasn't aware of her unique situation until she was forced to seek medical attention for lower abdominal pain and got an ultrasound.

This was possible because the woman was born with a second uterus.

Women born with two uteruses aren't unheard of. The formal name for the condition is called uterus didelphys. Estimates of how common it is are grainy, largely because many women experience no symptoms as a result of the condition. But it's probably very rare. One 2011 review, for instance, estimated that 0.3 percent of women in the general population had two uteruses.

The birth of the twins occurred 26 days after the delivery of her first baby.

Quirky as the woman's story is, it has troubling implications. The lack of an ultrasound that's standard practice in countries like the U.S. is indicative of the poor healthcare system in Bangladesh

Fortunately all three births were without issue.


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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday April 01 2019, @04:36AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday April 01 2019, @04:36AM (#822963) Journal

    The dawn of the dual-core womb

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:06AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:06AM (#822970)

    That's nothing! TMB's got three testicles, and two dicks!

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday April 01 2019, @10:58AM

      by Bot (3902) on Monday April 01 2019, @10:58AM (#823020) Journal

      You should adopt a separate counter for the ones stuck in the behind, though.

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  • (Score: 2) by driverless on Monday April 01 2019, @05:07AM (8 children)

    by driverless (4770) on Monday April 01 2019, @05:07AM (#822971)

    Quirky as the woman’s story is, it has troubling implications. The lack of an ultrasound that’s standard practice in countries like the U.S. is indicative of the poor healthcare system in Bangladesh

    The poor woman also didn't have access to a maternataxi, organic wholemeal lotus scented candles, and a dolphin midwife (yes, that's a real thing!). And yet they seem to have had no problems producing children for the last several hundred thousand years. Ultrasounds during pregnancy are nice, but most of the world has coped without them for millennia. There are far bigger things to worry about there than lack of access to ultrasounds... the Rohingya crisis springs immediately to mind.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:24AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:24AM (#823011)

      And yet they seem to have had no problems producing children for the last several hundred thousand years.

      Sure, but they die more often and they have to live with childbirth-related injuries that decrease their quality of life permanently because they don't have access to better care more often. Not that most first-world countries are particular good when it comes to childbirth, but they're certainly better than the alternatives.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:05PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:05PM (#823073)

        i'm sort of surprised that in one of the most populous and growing areas of the world, someone has directed a concern about the lack of reproductive healthcare. if anything, birth control should be provided upon request.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @02:49PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @02:49PM (#823089) Journal

          OMG !!! - - that sounds like -- (gasp!) -- Socialism !!!

          Heaven forbid that public taxpayer money could be used for . . . used for . . . for something like . . . that would benefit society and the lives of everyone as a whole over time!

          It just cannot be allowed!

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @04:37AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @04:37AM (#823449)

            Good point.

            From the view of a child, what could be worse than having to come out of a momma who does not want you?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:23PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:23PM (#823052)
      Before the advent of modern obstetrics the biggest single cause of death for women was complications in childbirth.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:27PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:27PM (#823080)

      Maybe it is good to not have an ultrasound.

      China did the sort of medical study that wouldn't get past ethics review here in the USA. They did ultrasounds or skipped them, then aborted the kids and dissected their brains. It turns out that the ultrasounds cause physical changes to the brain structure.

      Technically, they didn't prove it to be bad. Maybe getting your brain rearranged by an ultrasound is good, hmmm? Reasonable people would guess otherwise. It is notable that the rise in autism coincides with the rise in ultrasounds.

      Now THAT is something the medical industry doesn't want to hear.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:24AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:24AM (#823352) Journal

        Of course they can't hear it, it's ultrasound =P

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  • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Monday April 01 2019, @05:24AM (2 children)

    by shortscreen (2252) on Monday April 01 2019, @05:24AM (#822976) Journal

    1 out of 333? That doesn't sound all that rare. Yet here we have a news story about it. How common is it that the extra uterus is also capable of a successful pregnancy?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:32AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:32AM (#822978)

      "Rareness" is subjective. The exact same symptom at the same rate is "rare" when it happens after MMR, but "dangerous" after measles, eg febrile convulsions.

      • (Score: 2) by esperto123 on Monday April 01 2019, @02:55PM

        by esperto123 (4303) on Monday April 01 2019, @02:55PM (#823093)

        regardless, if one in 300 women had two uterus it would be a very known issue, that would be not rare at all, and would likely track in other mammals or at least primates.

        A more reasonable number would be 1 in 3 million or something.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @06:00AM (1 child)

    by krishnoid (1156) on Monday April 01 2019, @06:00AM (#822981)

    Quirky as the woman’s story is, it has troubling implications.

    if (abs(dob1 - dob2) > 2d && abs(dob1 - dob2) 120d) {
    fraud_trap("Alert: sibling birthdates invalid");
    social_services_flag(DENIED_FRAUD);
    }

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Monday April 01 2019, @07:35AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @07:35AM (#822993) Journal

      Use the &lt;, Luke.
      Especially when programming in HTML (grin)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @10:12AM (#823009)

    She should be the next person on a Doublemint gum commerical. "Double your pleasure, Double your fun!"

  • (Score: 2) by J_Darnley on Monday April 01 2019, @11:16AM (7 children)

    by J_Darnley (5679) on Monday April 01 2019, @11:16AM (#823025)

    it has troubling implications. The lack of an ultrasound ... is indicative of the poor healthcare system in Bangladesh

    Isn't everyone aware that it is a shithole? Was it somehow a hidden secret and that secret is now out.

    I am more surprised that the copious ultrasounds done in the west don't show that 0.3% of women have two uteruses. Surely a 3 in 1000 condition/defect is big news. All those pregnant women having ultrasounds and 0.3% is an estimate?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:21PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:21PM (#823036)

      It's called PHI: protected health information. You don't just get to throw a few SQL queries at a medical records system whenever you feel like it... assuming the thing is even accurate and has some kind of central repository you can trawl.

      You honestly think there's a dashboard somewhere with realtime stats from ultrasound reads? PHI is protected, and that precludes your dorky urge to hoover up all the data.

      And yeah, lo and behold, in countries subjected to capitalist imperialism with tin pot dictators propped up by Western military might exploiting the people there and wringing them dry for all they've got... well... you should know how capitalism works by now. "There is no money!"

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @03:20PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @03:20PM (#823100) Journal

        > It's called PHI: protected health information.

        Isn't it possible for researchers to collect aggregate statistics? I would think so. Even if they have to jump through some hoops and pass some reviews first.

        How else do we know lots of statistical health information? Number of people under 20 with diagnosed type 1 diabetes is 0.24 % of that population. Example of the source of [diabetes.org] that statistic.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:29PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @12:29PM (#823040)

      Oh and one other fucking thing you ignoramus. Maybe you need to read up on biology being messy. You think humans are manufactured somewhere in a 6 sigma process? No! You get all kinds of things going wrong. You get people with XX karyotype who have dicks. You get people with XY karyotype, dicks, and uterine tissue that isn't connected to anything! Testicles and ovaries in the same person!

      Maybe you're a feminist, and that explains why you're a dipshit. Do you get violent and angry when your ridiculously egotistical expectations about gendered biology don't work out? You might be a feminist. Do you have the urge to apply essentialist legality and then perform unnecessary surgeries and engage in child abuse in order to make the world conform to your stupid preconceptions? You're probably a feminist.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @03:26PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @03:26PM (#823101) Journal

        You get all kinds of things going wrong. You get people with XX karyotype who have dicks. You get people with XY karyotype, dicks, and uterine tissue that isn't connected to anything! Testicles and ovaries in the same person!

        No. (puts fingers in ears) La, la, la . . . la, la! I can't hear you. Pretending that such uncomfortable things just don't exist. If I ignore it maybe it will go away and not really be true. That way I can keep my nice neat stereotypes and pigeon holes. If that doesn't work, then it is possible to treat such persons as if they are somehow immoral or are somehow responsible for their condition. That's how Jesus would want us to treat hate them.

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      • (Score: 2) by J_Darnley on Monday April 01 2019, @05:40PM

        by J_Darnley (5679) on Monday April 01 2019, @05:40PM (#823162)

        WTF. This is weirdly aggressive, not that I care much about tone I wasn't at all PC when calling Bangladesh a shithole but somehow some vague implication that trannies are defective, which I didn't even think I made, and you get this triggered. I will have to try again. I don't think I said having 2 uteruses was good or bad. I expressed some disbelief about the quoted rate. I commented that women get lots of ultrasounds the condition doesn't appear to be discovered. Was it because I used "defect"? Is it not a defect?

        I am pro-abortion, pro-eugenics, anti-feminist, anti-tranny. You want to know where I stand on anything else?

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:29AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:29AM (#823355) Journal

        ...you are aware that the one group of feminists who does the things you're describing, the TERFs, are considered somewhere between loony and dangerous by the rest of us, no? TERFs are to feminism what Westboro Baptist Church is to mainline Protestant theology, in several ways.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 01 2019, @01:29PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @01:29PM (#823055) Journal

      Isn't everyone aware that it is a shithole? Was it somehow a hidden secret and that secret is now out.

      Such things are relative. Bangladesh is much better off than it used to be. For example, in the 1960s and 1970s, they had a fertility of roughly 7 children per woman. That's now down to 2.4 with a corresponding population growth rate of around 1%. GDP is growing somewhere around 7%. So big increase in per capita GDP. Can't say just how much an increase in wealth of the average citizen is from that, but they're improving their lives at a huge rate and they're already considerably better off than they were in the 1970s.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @11:37AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @11:37AM (#823029)

    Saying that all child are from different fathers.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @03:32PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @03:32PM (#823105) Journal

      What is most amusing in the developed world is when genealogy dna testing and interest in family history suddenly and surprisingly reveals parentage that was illicit, unknown, and possibly illegal. Too many secrets.

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