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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 19 2019, @11:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the "Near"-our-Solar-System dept.

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Source: https://www.independent.co.uk//life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/alien-life-exoplanet-solar-system-near-a8966076.html

Two previously undiscovered Earth-like planets have been hiding in a solar system neighbouring ours, according to scientists.

Their sun, known as "Teegarden's star", is only 12.5 light years from us. It is also one of the smallest and dimmest known stars – making it, and the planets that it supports, very difficult to spot.

[Ed. addition follows.]

A search for this star on-line lead to this Wikipedia article which, in turn, lead to:

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-06/uog-vot061819.php:

An international research team led by the University of Göttingen has discovered two new Earth-like planets near one of our closest neighboring stars. "Teegarden's star" is only about 12.5 light years away from Earth and is one of the smallest known stars. It is only about 2,700 °C warm and about ten times lighter than the Sun. Although it is so close to us, the star wasn't discovered until 2003. The scientists observed the star for about three years. The results were published in the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.

Their data clearly show the existence of two planets. "The two planets resemble the inner planets of our solar system," explains lead author Mathias Zechmeister of the Institute for Astrophysics at the University of Göttingen. "They are only slightly heavier than Earth and are located in the so-called habitable zone, where water can be present in liquid form."

Journal Reference: Caballero, J. A.; Reiners, A.; Ribas, I.; Dreizler, S.; Zechmeister, M.; et al. (12 June 2019). "The CARMENES search for exoplanets around M dwarfs. Two temperate Earth-mass planet candidates around Teegarden's Star" (PDF). Astronomy & Astrophysics. doi:10.1051/0004-6361/201935460

NB: Do not let the fact that Teegarden's star is only 12.5 light years from Earth and that some reports call that "near" give a false impression; we won't be visiting it any time soon!

Voyager 1 was launched over 41 years and 9 months ago and is now 145 AU (21.7 billion km; 13.5 billion mi) from Earth making it "the most distant from Earth of all known man-made objects."

According to the JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) Mission Info page, it is travelling at just under 17 km/sec (just over 38,000 mph). Further, note that it is just over 20 light-hours from Earth.

Let's make some very rough, back-of-the-envelope calculations. Voyager 1 needs to travel for 2 years to travel an additional light-hour from Earth. Yes, light-hour. It will take 8 more years' travel for it to finally be one light-day from Earth. So, it takes roughly 50 years' travel for each light-day's distance. Multiply that by 365 to get to a single light year away. Then multiply by another factor of 12.5 to reach the star... 50 x 365 x 12.5 givin us 228,125 years before Voyager 1 could travel the distance Teergarden's star is from Earth. That is a bit too long of a journey for a weekend getaway.


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:22AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:22AM (#857682)

    Probability of having microbes: 1 in 100

    Probability of having worms: 1 in 1,000,000

    Probability of having hot green Orion babes: 1 in 100,000,000,000

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:34AM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:34AM (#857685)

      Every planet you send a human too with have interesting native life, usually dangerous and/or good-looking.
          -- source : Hollywood

      • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:37AM

        by bob_super (1357) on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:37AM (#857686)

        *to, will*

        Chained Double Typo extra combo !

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by looorg on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:48AM

      by looorg (578) on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:48AM (#857708)

      Probability of having hot green Orion babes: 1 in 100,000,000,000

      If we just send Captain Kirk there the probability will approach 1 at warp speed.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:33AM (#857748)

      Probability of having hot green Orion babes: 1 in 100,000,000,000

      Probability of having somewhat attractive green Orion babes: 1 in 150,000.
      Probability of having homely green Orion babes: 1 in 10.

      Probability of having unattractive human men on SN theorizing about the number of hot green Orion babes: 1 in 1.

      Probability of having an SN user making up probabilities about green Orion babes and human men on SN, even though it's not particularly humorous: also 1 in 1. Wait. that's me! Hey!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @12:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 21 2019, @12:37AM (#858334)

      Never tell me the odds!

  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:30AM (1 child)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:30AM (#857684)

    The calculations used to illustrate how long it might take to get there are interesting, but only tell part of the story.

    The various other properties of the star make the planets "earth-like" only in a very loose sort of way. The star has a mass of 0.08 times that of the Sun (from the Wikipedia article) and could almost be classified a brown dwarf.

    Any earth-like planets orbiting that within it's goldilocks zone is going to be very, very close, so tidally locked. I think this means that they are not likely to have a magnetic field, which will reduce the chances they have any sort of atmosphere.

    All that could be completely wrong of course.

    I propose we send someone to have a look.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:14PM (#857868)

      From a distance, Mars is also Earth like. Pity everything about it is toxic to life.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:40AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @12:40AM (#857687)

    That's outdated 1970s technology. Today we could use one of Elon Musk's rockets to get there in 12.5 years or less.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by looorg on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:08AM (5 children)

    by looorg (578) on Thursday June 20 2019, @01:08AM (#857694)

    So just out of curiosity but how will the planets found and colonized be split? First country there gets the planet or? I just dont believe in some star trek fantasy where all the humans get along under one happy world government. Is there some treaty around?

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:30AM

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:30AM (#857725)

      Good luck to any country that tries to keep control over a colony 12 light years away.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @11:56AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @11:56AM (#857862)

      Seems people just don’t understand exactly what a light year entails, just how extreme it is and get fooled by the small number in front of it.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4z6RZXv5p8 [youtube.com]

      • (Score: 2) by Sourcery42 on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:17PM (1 child)

        by Sourcery42 (6400) on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:17PM (#858012)

        I was hoping for the Galaxy Song, AC

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:25PM (#858022)
    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:09PM

      by Freeman (732) on Thursday June 20 2019, @04:09PM (#858005) Journal

      The likelihood of more than a few countries being able to afford to travel there, is pretty low. At least at the beginning. Also, country x, and country y, would likely already have a treaty in place. Then there's the whole, America/England thing. Sure, they may be part of your Earth Empire for a little while, but it's quite unlikely that it will remain dependent on the Earth for very long. Assuming, they can survive on their own, and at 12 light years away, they sure better be able to.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 20 2019, @02:16AM (#857715)

    Probably coupla golgafrinchams.

  • (Score: 2) by RedIsNotGreen on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:05AM (1 child)

    by RedIsNotGreen (2191) on Thursday June 20 2019, @03:05AM (#857741) Homepage Journal

    1) Send exploratory craft, covered in microbes

    2) ???

    3) Intelligent life!

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