Microsoft Leaves Anti-Piracy Group After it Scolded EFF's New Board Chair
Microsoft has cut its ties with anti-piracy group CreativeFuture, after the group criticized the copyright track record of the new EFF board chair. This decision didn't sit well with CreativeFuture, which wrote a scathing letter arguing that Microsoft is turning its back on the copyright industries that helped the company to thrive.
In recent years CreativeFuture has been one of the most vocal anti-piracy groups. The coalition is made up of more than 550 organizations as well as hundreds of thousands of individual creators. The group lobbies lawmakers and leads the charge when it comes to many anti-piracy discussions. Its message is loud and clear: piracy is terrible and Google is enemy number one.
In recent years CreativeFuture has repeatedly pitted itself against major technology companies which it believes don't do enough to curb piracy. In this often hostile ecosystem, it found one sole tech giant at its side, Microsoft. "In an era of creative decimation perpetrated by the world's biggest technology companies, one of their very biggest made a point of joining us to stand up for copyright," CreativeFuture noted in a recent mailing.
While that sounds positive, the reason for the email isn't good. The anti-piracy coalition explains that Microsoft is the first member to ever leave the group. While the company hasn't publicly explained its motives, CreativeFuture knows why. According to the mailing, Microsoft wasn't happy with an article [archive] the group wrote about Pamela Samuelson, the new Board Chair at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF).
[...] "Confused and hurt, we did some digging, and discovered that Samuelson and Microsoft have a long history together, going at least as far back as 2005, when Microsoft gifted a whopping $1 million to the Samuelson Law, Technology & Public Policy Clinic at UC Berkeley," CreativeFuture writes. In addition, the coalition points out that Samuelson published a paper defending Microsoft in a lawsuit against AT&T, while the tech company continued to support the Samuelson Clinic.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Fluffeh on Wednesday November 27 2019, @08:58PM (7 children)
If you ever hear someone talking shit about another person behind their back, you better believe they do it about you the moment you turns yours.
Same goes for organisations like this. If they shit-stain anyone "against" them, the moment you aren't a member, expect a hose pointed in your direction.
Quite frankly, it is a shame that groups like this can act they way they do.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:30PM (2 children)
It doesn't seem to be just this one instance, either... almost every post on the CreativeFuture blog appears to be just constant shitposting about other people and organizations.
I'm surprised any company would want to be affiliated with that. Good on Microsoft for disassociating themselves from that tripe.
(Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:49PM (1 child)
I like "The Facts Illustrated" page on their site.
It contains no facts, really.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 28 2019, @06:48AM
I just visited it [creativefuture.org]. No illustration either, just some graphic FX unrelated to the chow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:55PM (1 child)
The QOTD seems relevant.
(Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Thursday November 28 2019, @12:01AM
With eight inches of sharpened, double-edged steel, amirite?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday November 27 2019, @11:25PM
FTFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 28 2019, @02:40AM
Transparency is the key... make sure these type of comments stay with them forever, let them earn their way back to respectable status, or die trying.
As for Microsoft - freely pirateable OS and software packages made them what they are today. Microsoft copy protection was non-existent in the first decade of their broad success, which ensured that everyone used their products whether they could afford them (or cared to pay for them) or not. I give BillyG very little genius cred for his OS work, anyone reasonably skilled in the art could have done what he did, and better. I give him top marks for business sense, and taking advantage of the mechanics of "free (as in beer) software" before the concept was even codified.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:13PM (3 children)
...do invariably receive a very pointed reward.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of scumbags however. Stupid, too; the "copyright industries that helped the company to thrive" part is hilarious.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 28 2019, @01:32AM (2 children)
"Copyright" is playing out to be the wet dream of malware writers needing to keep suckers from seeing what their machine is really being told to do.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 28 2019, @04:12AM (1 child)
This ^ 100%. Because of Windows, people are accustomed to downloading indecipherable blobs, and clicking through to get those blobs installed. We can thank Apple as well for that.
Some *nix users actually LOOK AT the source. If we can't look at the source, at the least, we almost all download our blobs from "trusted sources". Relatively few *nix people are willing to download some random blob from any shady site we happen to find ourselves on, and play the click-through game. Seriously, it's like playing Russian Roulette! And, the indoctrination for people to find that acceptable probably wouldn't exist without Microsoft.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday November 28 2019, @11:57AM
If they hadn't taught people to blindly do whatever software told them to do, no one would use MSOffice
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:44PM
The Software Publishers Association ("don't copy that floppy") was the top lobbying arm of the copyright mafia. Then Micro$oft turned its back and created its own org, the Business Software Alliance. In just a short time, the SPA evaporated into history.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ilsa on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:49PM (3 children)
"In an era of creative decimation perpetrated by the world's biggest technology companies"
Yeah, it's all the tech companies fault. It can't POSSIBLY be the publishers' fault. They don't lock up works, making them harder to access. They don't charge unreasonable fees for things. They don't abuse the crap of artists who make the mistake of signing on with them. They don't force copyright terms so long that it takes two (or is it 3 now?) full generations of people to live and die before anything can enter the public domain.
The only reason Microsoft would be a part of such a group in the first place would be if they thought they could get something out of it. I'm guessing the equations no longer work out to Microsoft's benefit.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 28 2019, @02:10AM
I have one video game that I have bought 5 times.
The first time it was worth the 30-40 bucks I paid for it. It really is a good game.
Over the years I have ended up with this same game in different bundles and whatnot. I did not seek out to buy this game again. Yet the publisher of that game got more money. Because I wanted the other games in the bundles. I have to wonder when I have paid enough for a game I finished well over 20 years ago.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 28 2019, @02:47AM (1 child)
It all has to do with politics. Back when Disney was extending copyright terms for their own benefit ad infinitum, the voting public was asleep at the switch - did little or nothing to push back. Recently, there is much more awareness and hostility toward copyright and the political climate was not at all receptive to yet another term extension, so they didn't even waste the effort (money and political capital) on a Quixotic attempt at another extension. We (the US voting public) are apparently not pissed off enough to change the status quo and get copyright term rollbacks yet, but hopefully we're at the end of the pendulum swing.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 28 2019, @04:36AM
Well heh.
Bear in mind that a topic like this, 'copyright', enters the mind of one in 1k people. Ever. Maybe even one in 10k people!
Most people don't even know what copyright *is*, and could care less if you started to explain it to them. They have other concerns, whatever those may be.
Which isn't copyright.
And of those with the ability, or interest, or desire to care, many may still not really care how long copyright is extended for!
People that care? Those making money off of it, and those profiting in some non-fiduciary way.. such as people using GPL based software. Yet, do you know how many people using Linux, and don't even know what the GPL is? Or have seen the acronym, but didn't even Google wtf it is?
I mean, look at the mickey mouse thing. How do you explain it to the non-interested? That "disney is evil' and 'now they get to still be the only ones to make mickey mouse films'? Or worse, 'Now they can profit off their work for 20 more years!' or what not? Why would most people care?
I care. You apparently care. But... we've decided to click on a story that interests us, on a board/forum that has topics of this type...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @10:19PM (6 children)
When you're "confused and hurt" you go cry to your best friend and gorge yourself on ice cream.
When you go try to dig up some dirt, that's "angry and vindictive".
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday November 27 2019, @10:29PM (3 children)
They're trying to sound sarcastic like da millennials, and failing hard.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 28 2019, @07:16AM (2 children)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday November 28 2019, @07:36AM (1 child)
Sounds like you need your fix.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 28 2019, @09:04AM
Of course. The first rule of the tautology club is the first rule of the tautology club [xkcd.com], don't expect me to mod you insightful. (grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday November 27 2019, @11:46PM (1 child)
They sound a bit passive aggressive too
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 28 2019, @07:21AM
Bottom line, used-to-be-useful-now-just-plain-idiots in the act of burning bridges. Nothing to see here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 28 2019, @09:45AM
Is it here yet? Should be any minute now. I'm tired of waiting.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by jbernardo on Thursday November 28 2019, @02:28PM
Everyone seems to be ignoring the interesting part in this. Out of this fight between creativefuture and Microsoft emerges that the new chair of the EFF is a Microsoft employee. So, suddenly it is clear who was behind the campaign against Stallman. This is the important information on all this, the rest is a fight between assholes.