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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday April 22 2020, @09:28PM   Printer-friendly
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FCC blasted for "shameful" ruling against cities and fire department:

The Federal Communications Commission is in another dispute with the fire department that fought for net neutrality rules after being throttled by Verizon during a wildfire response.

The Santa Clara County Central Fire Protection District, along with the cities of Los Angeles and New York, last week asked the FCC to extend a deadline for filing comments on the last remaining piece of FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's net neutrality repeal. Pai had to seek another round of public comments on the net neutrality repeal and related deregulation of the broadband industry because federal judges who upheld the overall repeal ruled that Pai "failed to examine the implications of its decisions for public safety."

The fire department and cities said they couldn't meet the FCC's comments deadline because of the coronavirus pandemic. But the FCC refused to grant more time for filing comments in an order issued yesterday, resulting in condemnation from the Santa Clara County Fire Department, Democrats, and consumer advocates.

"When the Trump FCC repealed net neutrality two years ago, it completely ignored public safety," US Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.) said. "Santa Clara County firefighters paid a steep price when Verizon throttled their data speeds as they fought the worst fire in California's history, and the County was helpless to resolve the issue... Now, when these same first responders of the Santa Clara County Fire Department are requesting a very reasonable extension to file their comments in the FCC's order because they are on the front lines in responding to the worst pandemic of our lifetimes, Chairman Pai has ignored their pleas. The FCC's decision is shameful, offensive, and dangerous. The FCC must rethink this decision immediately."


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @09:39PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @09:39PM (#985870)

    Still sore @ me kicking yer ass publicly tranny freak https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] ? Yes, OBVIOUSLY (lol).

    You did that all to yourself since you are incompetent & STUPID & a TWISTED ABOMINATION sick in the head TRANNY weirdo LOSER (but you sure TRY to "play smart" but vs. me you FELL FLAT ON YOUR FACE publicly, lol - no denying it loser).

    You also threw a raged shitfit there, calling for the PUNK SITE OWNER HERE (help me mommy, lmao) to burn your account in due to your BLUNDERING shame publicly vs. me you can't hide, hehehe!

    THEN YOU IMPERSONATED ME making it look like I APOLOGIZED TO YOU https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=35327&page=1&cid=937346#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you fucking DECEITFUL disgusting LYING TRANNY weirdo LOSER?

    Bullshit I did!

    Why WOULD I after LIES about me you spew (just a few below prove it you FUCK) & after I BLEW YOUR DUMB ASS AWAY in the link above?

    Hahahahaha - OH, the PUBLIC HUMILIATION for you, lol!

    Doubtless due to ALL THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON (& YES, I KNOW that you are) & you SHOULD have had your account deleted.

    You need to be DELETED from this LIFE you sick in the head FREAK "TrAnStEsTiCuLaR MONSTROSITY".

    Barbara Hudson LIKES TO TELL LIES ABOUT ME (projecting "its" OWN issues in being a SAW OFF ITS OWN COCK & BALLS useless loser "self DISABLED" TRANNY FREAK, lol - that's no disability, it's INSANITY clearly!)

    You lie saying I don't work OR that I haven't in "25 yrs" etc.?

    WRONG!

    I've said it MANY TIMES to YOU directly, LYING FUCK YOU ARE, that I still contract idiot but I don't HAVE to as I run my own show in other business!

    FACT: Still - I haven't HAD to work for ANYONE but myself really since 2007 freak.

    I've told you before I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS & actually have WORTH + real estate holdings galore!

    (That's MY real worth, & you barbara TOM hudson don't have SHIT, you USELESS LEECH WELFARE SUCKING "DISABLED" total BULLSHIT ARTIST twisted TRANZOID loser (by SAWING OFF YOUR COCK & BALLS since you are an INSANE whacko that did that to yourself too, OMG, lol) - truer words were NEVER spoken about you, loser).

    You "VOLUNTEER"? LOL - doing what??

    Barbara Hudson's SUCK SERVICE for OLD HOMOS @ the VA Hospital??

    LMAO - probably.

    (Some "Essential Service", lmao).

    * I hope this shithole waste of a site closes off ANON POSTS - why? Barely ANYONE comes here as is, do that, this place will go to ZERO & have to go away (& thus, so will you freak, lol)

    Most of all - you & your sockpuppet "friends" (just you most likely using multiple accounts) ARE REDUCED TO IMPERSONATING ME since you can't manage to prove me wrong in that TOPMOST LINK to your UTTER PUBLIC HUMILIATION vs. myself, in IMPERSONATIONS of ME like e.g. https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37178&page=1&cid=985582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] (since I didn't write the post you replied to)!

    It proves EVERYTHING that needs proving here along w/ my FACTUAL STATEMENTS here too about you, scumbag TRANSTESTICLE FREAK!

    All in addition to your MULTIPLE SELF-DEFEATS vs. me in the TOPMOST LINK above you CAN'T STAND since you were SO STUPID blundering mistake after mistake vs. me in its points...

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: FREAK, I've done MORE THAN YOU EVER HAVE or EVER WILL you USELESS no skills BULLSHIT ARTIST LAZY STUPID piece of TWISTO TRANNY CRAP FREAK ABOMINATION & you, + most likely MOST here, KNOW already!

    Anyone can see the link I posted above as to that much & they'll see results I produced that did well vs. threats online w/ @ LEAST 1/4 MILLION USERS OF MY WORK TO DATE

    + TONS MORE that YES, you ARE AWARE OF in publications in computing I have to MY NAME!

    (You don't & NEVER will loser)

    That's all in addition to my being paid well for code I wrote that SELLS TO THIS VERY DAY from a certified Microsoft partner that placed as a FINALIST @ Microsoft TechEd 2000-2002 in its HARDEST CATEGORY SQLServer Performance Enhancement 2 yrs. in a ROW you DO-NOTHING INCAPABLE imcompetent FAILURE LOSER you TRULY are!

    So, & I've asked this of you before (to SHAME your LAZY incompetent ass): YOU'VE DONE MORE/BETTER? Hell no!

    (& a LOSER you KNOW you ARE never can or will, freak (& we all know it - prove otherwise - YOU CAN'T since you haven't EVER DONE SHIT of ANY worth whatsoever you USELESS mentally TWISTED trantesticular MONSTROSITY abberration abomination). I do well in all things - whereas YOU do nothing but "CHATTER ONLINE" like the FUCKING FOOL FREAK TRANNY LOSER you are TWISTO - everyone KNOWS what YOU are, lol & it is DISGUSTING you RIDICULOUS ABOMINATION))... apk

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @09:45PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @09:45PM (#985872)

      You know they have medications that could help you. Try cyanide.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:18PM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:18PM (#985878) Homepage

        Haha, I always knew it was the Jews behind Zyklon-B.

        The Jews are working with China to end America. We must stop them both!

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:23PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:23PM (#985881)

    They brandish guns to health workers and suck cock of corruption. If not for there immigrant invented bombs they would be the Sudan of the white people.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:40PM (#985900)

      Don't h8 the playa, h8 the game. Cuck.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:24PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:24PM (#985882)

    Was this the story where the firefighters were streaming porn through their mobile devices on site, until they blew through their quota?

    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:48PM (1 child)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:48PM (#985889)

      Was this the story where the firefighters were streaming porn...

      No, because that didn't happen.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:04PM (#986063)

        And even if it did... I don't care. Thanks for saving my life.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by fadrian on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:30PM

    by fadrian (3194) on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:30PM (#985883) Homepage

    He can just make a ruling with the other rubber stamps on the committee and wait for the courts to make him listen to emergency services again. That should get him through the rest of his term and, having done the bidding of his masters, it's back to his cushy job at Verizon (or whichever telecom rock he crawled out from under).

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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @10:38PM (#985885)

    Still sore @ me kicking yer ass publicly tranny freak https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33430&page=1&cid=889582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] ? Yes, OBVIOUSLY (lol).

    You did that all to yourself since you are incompetent & STUPID & a TWISTED ABOMINATION sick in the head TRANNY weirdo LOSER (but you sure TRY to "play smart" but vs. me you FELL FLAT ON YOUR FACE publicly, lol - no denying it loser).

    You also threw a raged shitfit there, calling for the PUNK SITE OWNER HERE (help me mommy, lmao) to burn your account in due to your BLUNDERING shame publicly vs. me you can't hide, hehehe!

    THEN YOU IMPERSONATED ME making it look like I APOLOGIZED TO YOU https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=35327&page=1&cid=937346#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] you fucking DECEITFUL disgusting LYING TRANNY weirdo LOSER?

    Bullshit I did!

    Why WOULD I after LIES about me you spew (just a few below prove it you FUCK) & after I BLEW YOUR DUMB ASS AWAY in the link above?

    Hahahahaha - OH, the PUBLIC HUMILIATION for you, lol!

    Doubtless due to ALL THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON (& YES, I KNOW that you are) & you SHOULD have had your account deleted.

    You need to be DELETED from this LIFE you sick in the head FREAK "TrAnStEsTiCuLaR MONSTROSITY".

    Barbara Hudson LIKES TO TELL LIES ABOUT ME (projecting "its" OWN issues in being a SAW OFF ITS OWN COCK & BALLS useless loser "self DISABLED" TRANNY FREAK, lol - that's no disability, it's INSANITY clearly!)

    You lie saying I don't work OR that I haven't in "25 yrs" etc.?

    WRONG!

    I've said it MANY TIMES to YOU directly, LYING FUCK YOU ARE, that I still contract idiot but I don't HAVE to as I run my own show in other business!

    FACT: Still - I haven't HAD to work for ANYONE but myself really since 2007 freak.

    I've told you before I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS & actually have WORTH + real estate holdings galore!

    (That's MY real worth, & you barbara TOM hudson don't have SHIT, you USELESS LEECH WELFARE SUCKING "DISABLED" total BULLSHIT ARTIST twisted TRANZOID loser (by SAWING OFF YOUR COCK & BALLS since you are an INSANE whacko that did that to yourself too, OMG, lol) - truer words were NEVER spoken about you, loser).

    You "VOLUNTEER"? LOL - doing what??

    Barbara Hudson's SUCK SERVICE for OLD HOMOS @ the VA Hospital??

    LMAO - probably.

    (Some "Essential Service", lmao).

    * I hope this shithole waste of a site closes off ANON POSTS - why? Barely ANYONE comes here as is, do that, this place will go to ZERO & have to go away (& thus, so will you freak, lol)

    Most of all - you & your sockpuppet "friends" (just you most likely using multiple accounts) ARE REDUCED TO IMPERSONATING ME since you can't manage to prove me wrong in that TOPMOST LINK to your UTTER PUBLIC HUMILIATION vs. myself, in IMPERSONATIONS of ME like e.g. https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37178&page=1&cid=985582#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] (since I didn't write the post you replied to)!

    It proves EVERYTHING that needs proving here along w/ my FACTUAL STATEMENTS here too about you, scumbag TRANSTESTICLE FREAK!

    All in addition to your MULTIPLE SELF-DEFEATS vs. me in the TOPMOST LINK above you CAN'T STAND since you were SO STUPID blundering mistake after mistake vs. me in its points...

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly: FREAK, I've done MORE THAN YOU EVER HAVE or EVER WILL you USELESS no skills BULLSHIT ARTIST LAZY STUPID piece of TWISTO TRANNY CRAP FREAK ABOMINATION & you, + most likely MOST here, KNOW already!

    Anyone can see the link I posted above as to that much & they'll see results I produced that did well vs. threats online w/ @ LEAST 1/4 MILLION USERS OF MY WORK TO DATE

    + TONS MORE that YES, you ARE AWARE OF in publications in computing I have to MY NAME!

    (You don't & NEVER will loser)

    That's all in addition to my being paid well for code I wrote that SELLS TO THIS VERY DAY from a certified Microsoft partner that placed as a FINALIST @ Microsoft TechEd 2000-2002 in its HARDEST CATEGORY SQLServer Performance Enhancement 2 yrs. in a ROW you DO-NOTHING INCAPABLE imcompetent FAILURE LOSER you TRULY are!

    So, & I've asked this of you before (to SHAME your LAZY incompetent ass): YOU'VE DONE MORE/BETTER? Hell no!

    (& a LOSER you KNOW you ARE never can or will, freak (& we all know it - prove otherwise - YOU CAN'T since you haven't EVER DONE SHIT of ANY worth whatsoever you USELESS mentally TWISTED trantesticular MONSTROSITY abberration abomination). I do well in all things - whereas YOU do nothing but "CHATTER ONLINE" like the FUCKING FOOL FREAK TRANNY LOSER you are TWISTO - everyone KNOWS what YOU are, lol & it is DISGUSTING you RIDICULOUS ABOMINATION))... apk

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:01PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:01PM (#985891)

    They don't report news like this while the biological attack is being carried out.

    In times like this invented crisis, people are being actively murdered using a silent and invisible weapon. Americans have already been trained to raise their arms so that a government thug can touch them at airports. Now they rolled out lock downs and the next step is curfew. Then come the gun confiscations. Buy guns and bury them in safe places where your governments cannot find them. Then when finally the survivors of the biological attack are allowed to get out and work for the bosses, go to your weapons cache and arm yourselves. It was all predicted (loosely) in "The Turner Diaries".

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:11PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:11PM (#985893)

      It was all predicted (loosely) in "The Turner Diaries".

      Yeah, "loosely" as in "So loosely you have to be a fucking paranoid schizophrenic and think you hear alien voices in your head to imagine there is any resemblance at all."

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:37PM (2 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:37PM (#985899)

        "So loosely you have to be a fucking paranoid schizophrenic and think you hear alien voices in your head to imagine there is any resemblance at all."

        Sorry to say, but probably about 1/4- 1/3 of America's population actually believes this kind of stuff. This whole country has gone nuts.

        • (Score: 2) by OrugTor on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:05PM (1 child)

          by OrugTor (5147) on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:05PM (#986065)

          A large part of the country has been nuts for quite some time but until Trump it didn't seem to matter.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @02:54AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @02:54AM (#986370)

            He's a lightning rod that got wired into the house mains...

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @01:52AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 23 2020, @01:52AM (#985926) Journal

        Don't forget Nostradamus. In his crazy drug induced ramblings, you can find "proof" of anything and everything. Who needs the Turner Diaries, when you can fall back on Nostradamus?

        • (Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:40AM

          by driverless (4770) on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:40AM (#985958)

          Gotta admit, Nostradamus is brilliant, you can interpret, after the event obviously, anything you want back into his "predictions".

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:29PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 22 2020, @11:29PM (#985897)

    That's so funny!

    You people expect psychopaths to show empathy!

    Pull the other one!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:51PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:51PM (#986051)

      Pretty much. Right now, you've go ISPs like comcast removing their broadband caps and shockingly the network seems to be holding up just fine on their end. A few websites are slower than usual, but those are on the server end, not my internet connection is.

      It just reveals that these caps are a scam to begin with, they should be a soft cap where they can throttle certain accounts after a certain point, but only if needed to maintain service to others. Capacity is capacity and whether it's all being used or none of it's being used, makes relatively little difference in terms of how much it costs. You still need the hardware in place in case demand spikes to cover the promised capacity.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:07PM (#986067)

        Bbut... then how can they innovate with bundles?

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Mykl on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:29AM (3 children)

    by Mykl (1112) on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:29AM (#985910)

    We all know that Pai has already decided the outcome - any response from the firefighters (or anyone else for that matter) is just going to be binned without being read. In a sense, he's done them a favour, preventing them from having to work on a submission that will make no difference anyway.

    • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Thursday April 23 2020, @06:10AM (2 children)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Thursday April 23 2020, @06:10AM (#985961) Journal

      Yeah, forget Pai and the FCC. Talk directly to the telecoms. They aren't being forced to abandon network neutrality, only allowed. Threats of lawsuits and that the rules may come back in November should be persuasive arguments not to be too hasty to dump neutrality.

      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:35AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:35AM (#985971)

        Start publishing a list of FCC, and any telecom who violates net neutrality, properties with the notation "Emergency Services are Required to Stop for Coffee and Donuts Before Attending These Locations".

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:09PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:09PM (#986069)

          I realize you're being Funny but these shitbags became what they are by precisely the route you outline.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by TheRaven on Thursday April 23 2020, @09:45AM (3 children)

    by TheRaven (270) on Thursday April 23 2020, @09:45AM (#985974) Journal

    I'd expect a tech site to do better. Network neutrality is about the network being neutral. It will deliver packets irrespective of the remote endpoint. It will not prioritise, for example, packets for Amazon Prime Video over ones for Netflix. Reducing speed of all customers when they go over a usage threshold is traffic management. It should be covered by your SLA.

    Ironically, it sounds as if they actually want the opposite of network neutrality: they want traffic to and from them to be prioritised over other traffic.

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    • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:39PM (2 children)

      by epitaxial (3165) on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:39PM (#985994)

      Exactly. The fire department had a contracted data plan that included throttling when they hit a bandwidth limit. Morons on the internet kept saying this was a net neutrality issue. Did AT&T pay more for having packet priority over Verizon? No. That is what net neutrality is.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by martyb on Thursday April 23 2020, @02:52PM (1 child)

        by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 23 2020, @02:52PM (#986018) Journal

        Exactly. The fire department had a contracted data plan that included throttling when they hit a bandwidth limit. Morons on the internet kept saying this was a net neutrality issue. Did AT&T pay more for having packet priority over Verizon? No. That is what net neutrality is.

        Yes, they *were*. When it was made clear to the fire protection district that it was capped, they upgraded to what they were told was a truly unlimited plan. No cap, no throttle. And then they still got throttled after a certain level of data usage. Yes, after assurances they were to never experience data plan restrictions again. And they found this out a few months later while fighting a huge fire (Mendocino Complex Fire [wikipedia.org]). While trying to keep a view of all of the firefighters, where they were, how the fire was progressing, weather forecasts and the like they fond their service throttled yet again.

        Caught in that minefield, the FCC sought any kind of "justification" that could be found. As repeal of net neutrality was founded on changing the definition of what constituted telecommunication service versus information services (I think those were the terms), and the Titles (Tiltle II / Title III, IIRC) under which they were defined, Verizon and FCC found themselves backed into a corner. As I understand it, they are still scrambling to get out of the hole they dug themselves. Their creative attempt to redefine things so they could then force through net neutrality ended up painting themselves into a corner which they are now scrambling to get out of. At least that is my understanding from the news reports I've read over the years. Legalese makes my eyes glaze over, especially when it is designed to be impenetrable and open to interpretation by the parties that pushed for implementation. See also: regulatory capture.

        Oh, and one can be certain that Pai at the FCC would grasp at any perceived error in the comments they filed. So, the comment filing needs to be precise and wiggle free or else they will be in no better position after filing their comments than before. From my perspective, Pai is just gish galloping [wikipedia.org] here. He has no interest in actually looking at the situation again, so anything that can be used to block comments seems to be A-OK in his book.

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        • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Friday April 24 2020, @12:17PM

          by TheRaven (270) on Friday April 24 2020, @12:17PM (#986439) Journal

          When it was made clear to the fire protection district that it was capped, they upgraded to what they were told was a truly unlimited plan. No cap, no throttle. And then they still got throttled after a certain level of data usage. Yes, after assurances they were to never experience data plan restrictions again

          That's a straightforward breach of contract. Nothing at all to do with network neutrality. We don't need extra regulations to require that you actually provide the service that you've agreed to provide in a contract.

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  • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:03PM

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:03PM (#985991)

    [sarc]
    Sure glad he did such a good job at getting rid of top-level corruption. You know, just for removing corruption and political placemen, I would vote for him 10 times over. Shame I'm not a USian so can't vote at all!

    Congrats to all Trump supporters for getting Pai in. #MAGA!
    [/sarc]

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