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Our digital lives may be making us more distracted, distant and drained, according to research presented at the annual convention of the American Psychological Association.
For instance, even minor phone use during a meal with friends was enough to make the diners feel distracted and reduced their enjoyment of the experience, one study found.
"People who were allowed to use their phones during dinner had more trouble staying present in the moment," said Ryan Dwyer, MA, of the University of British Columbia, lead author of a study that was presented during a symposium on how digital technology is affecting relationships. "Decades of research on happiness tell us that engaging positively with others is critical for our well-being. Modern technology may be wonderful, but it can easily sidetrack us and take away from the special moments we have with friends and family in person."
Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180810161553.htm
(Score: 4, Insightful) by archfeld on Sunday August 12 2018, @07:14PM (4 children)
I 'feel' 38.5436% less 'in the moment' than I did just a few moments ago. Can we get more subjective and a little less technical and precise with these 'definitive' studies ?
For the NSA : Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, initiators, main charge, nuclear charge
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:29PM (3 children)
By creating a questionairre then having a large number of randomly-selected volunteers answer it.
But in any case: if you don't know the value of being in the moment, then you don't know the value of getting laid.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Sunday August 12 2018, @11:55PM (2 children)
If you get laid at near the speed of light, does it seem to last forever?
Kirk getting laid at warp speed 4 by a 3 breasted orange woman... Do you still wish you were Picard?
Damn...the questions my mind asks that I can't answer!!!!!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 13 2018, @10:01AM
Listen to MDC, put them in a questionnaire and select thousands at random to answer them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday August 13 2018, @02:59PM
Kirk was more of a playboy. Picard was more of a gentleman. We won't mention the other guy. At least Janeway seemed to fit the part.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Interesting) by jelizondo on Sunday August 12 2018, @08:40PM (9 children)
It’s not new, only made worse by technology. A wise friend of mine told me: “When you are at work, you’re thinking of your woman; when you’re with your woman, you’re thinking of work.”
One is never entirely there and therefore not quite successful at home or at work.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by BsAtHome on Sunday August 12 2018, @08:44PM (3 children)
Yes, tell that to the teachers who are trying to cope with the distractions in the classroom.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:31AM
Two words: claw hammer. Problem solved.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Monday August 13 2018, @10:04AM (1 child)
Why? You reckon they'll go fuck their spouse instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @10:41AM
One would hope. If I didn't get to bone my wicked hot biology teacher, they shouldn't either.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:01PM (3 children)
How nice for you, Milo, that you've read The Phantom Tollbooth. Now how about you take your vacuous platitude - which you ripped from a children's book - and go fuck yourself, you unoriginal idiot.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:05PM (2 children)
Tell me, oh wise moderator who modded this Troll, how fucking triggered are you by the word "fuck"?
Proving once again that Moderators are knee-jerk morons.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @01:36AM
You've got that wrong. The moderators were triggered by the word "Tollbooth". Being from New Jersey means we always have a visceral reaction to tollbooths.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:33AM
I say "fuck" all the time and generally keep max karma. You must just not be very good at it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @09:59PM
For some reason you made me think of "If I Was With A Woman" by Ian Dury.
Now, there's an incel anthem.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:07PM
You are brainless sheep. Yes, you.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:12PM (4 children)
Millennials are more likely to check their phones every two minutes than are normal people. So maybe it's the presence of millennials that ruins the meal? I know I prefer a meal where the discussion doesn't revolve around the latest advancements in gender enumeration.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @12:00AM (2 children)
Oddly the most I hear about gender enumeration is around here. In the real world, even here in caleefornee way it just doesn't come up. Looks like you are the one making it such a problem.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:34AM (1 child)
Thank you for demonstrating how to spot a person who hasn't been on a college campus or even associated with college students in the past ten years in one easy step.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 13 2018, @10:08AM
Associated with college students... in one easy step?
Now you got my undivided attention. Seriously, I'll even let aside my mobile.
(grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @09:56PM
I prefer a meal where everyone hasn't got shitty beards, shittier tattoos, still shittier piercings, really shitty Elton John spectacles and are dressed like undercover trainee cops at a rock festival, and especially I prefer a meal at a restaurant where they actually understand that it matters to serve everyone their meal at the same time, rather than bring it one plate at a time over a half hour interval because all the groups eating at the restaurant are not actually groups at all but rather bunches of millennials not interacting with each other at all but spending the whole meal face down in their FUCKING PHONES.
(Score: 4, Funny) by SomeGuy on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:14PM
Sorry ma, I was busy tolling SoylentNews!
Ooh, I've got Tweets! YAY!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:17PM (1 child)
The lead author of this "scientific" study is a Master of Arts at a university in a city known for its marihuana consumption. Yup, this is millennial science at its best.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:19PM
No, if it was millennial science there would be a footnote about how cellphone usage causes global warming.
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:25PM
It no longer comes with all the doc. Most of the doc is available for download, but not from Apple's developer site, to download it is an extra manual step one must do from Xcode's preferences.
If a particular item isn't local Xcode will hit Apple's server.
Not _all_ of the doc can be downloaded.
macOS' - The Operating System Formerly Known As Oh Ess Ecks - has very little local help, almost all of it is online. That includes the doc on how to troubleshoot internet connection problems.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 4, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday August 12 2018, @09:32PM (2 children)
I often point this out to non-technical people:
It's so we can click ads.
It's so we can buy Apps from the App Store.
It's so our Apps can Phone Home to their mobile analytics servers.
I have yet to come up with a good reason for always being online, that serves _my_ interest.
Then I explain to these non-technical people - folks like my mom - that when I start work, I download everything I need for the next while onto my box, go offline, work offline for the next while then go online and upload it.
Then I point out that in my entire career, the very-most productive day of coding that I ever experienced was while I sat in the passenger seat as my fiance drove us through rural Newfoundland.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:36AM (1 child)
Speak for yourself. It's so I can watch porn if you're boring me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @08:11AM
That's a lot of porn.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @10:14PM
Maybe your dinners are just bad.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by gawdonblue on Sunday August 12 2018, @10:32PM (19 children)
Good luck getting them out to dinner. I personally know of 4 kids in their late teens/early twenties in my city who rarely venture outside their bedrooms, even to go to school/college/etc. They are obviously addicted to their gadgets and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on YouTube. However, they do appear to interact with others online.
Their parents are unsure of what to do to get them out and about, but occasionally get desperate and ask for help (I'm in IT and they think I might have some ideas). Does anyone have any successful strategies?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @10:47PM (7 children)
Get them laid.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday August 12 2018, @11:26PM (3 children)
You do what any other red-blooded American family would do and tell them to get a goddamn job and start paying rent or GTFO.
A quick stint at McDonalds or $RETAIL_CHAIN having to deal with pricks all day and without being able to to fiddle with their phones every 5 seconds will straighten them out.
I would also suggest joining the military but those have weight standards and you run the risk of having your kids dying or surviving with half their skulls and limbs blown off just so your Jewish overlords can further prosper and get more aid money from your tax dollars fighting bullshit wars that your generation started.
Tough call.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday August 13 2018, @02:10AM (1 child)
3/5
Comment starts great, but then veers off wildly with the "Jewish overlords" bit.
Nothing wrong with making the kids get jobs, but pretending the Jews run the world just seems so weird and old-fashioned.
Russians, trolling since 1903. [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @04:09AM
Somebody needs to go make fun of nazi groups laughing at them that they've been suckered by the Russians.
It might be interesting because i don't think they like the russians either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @02:50AM
Long, boring, and mostly stupid comment. Can't you come up with anything intelligent and/or interesting? Anything? Yeah, didn't think so.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 12 2018, @11:53PM
That will not 'fix' the problem.
The problem is boundaries and expectations. The parents set those.
"I expect you to not use your phone 24/7 and I expect you to be at the dinner table promptly when it is ready"
You do that by setting time limits and explanations as to why those limits are there.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Monday August 13 2018, @05:50PM (1 child)
Got a strategem for that?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 14 2018, @12:56PM
Fuck Betas!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by jelizondo on Monday August 13 2018, @12:26AM
I guess, from experience, that if they are really dysfunctional they need professional help. I tried the hardway with my son (get a job or GTFO) and didn't work, he would rather beg money than leave his stupid online games. My daughter was able to curve somewhat the online addicition after she got a job but she would spend the weekend online rather than do anything else, except attend a live concert.
So, honestly, if they are in over their heads, they should see a shrink.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:41AM (5 children)
What the complete and utter fuck? Some people should not be allowed to reproduce. You allot them however much time you feel works and if they go over you smash whatever was so important with a hammer. Alternatively you could use the discipline method that's worked quite well for thousands of years: a belt across their disobedient little asses. Whichever you prefer.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @04:05AM (4 children)
May have worked well for thousands of years, but today will land you in jail in many places.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @05:42AM (3 children)
A fine example of how mass insanity can bring down any empire, yes. If you can't bring yourself to cause your child pain to keep them from growing up to be a selfish, entitled piece of shit, you have no business being a parent.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @07:41AM (2 children)
Same with wives. A good smack often sets them straight. Just don't leave a bruise.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @10:46AM (1 child)
Wives are adults already, unless you're Muslim or some other cult. You have neither the responsibility nor authority to teach them a damned thing. You absolutely have both to teach your child though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @07:58PM
It appears that you were triggered.
I think the uncontroversial solution is to evict them.
In fact, I think that's probably the best way to deal with it. I got evicted. Learned how to survive on my own instead of being shielded from the real world in video games like everybody else I know. Even bought a home. The experience cured me of my libertarianism, and I'm now a socialist.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 13 2018, @03:43AM
Also, early twenties are not even arguably fucking kids. They are adults and need to be the fuck out of their parents' house and adulting.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @04:03AM
This was exactly my experience when I let an unemployed/homeless family (ie, unemployed single parent) stay with me. I eventually turned off the wifi. The gnashing of teeth only lasted three days.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Monday August 13 2018, @06:08AM (1 child)
Turn off the router. Take away the power cord if required.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @08:41PM
You'll also need to turn off the cellular signal. And if you are paying the cellular bill for an early 20's person, it's YOU who have the problem.
(Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Monday August 13 2018, @06:56AM (1 child)
(emphasis mine)
How do they know that the baseline interaction is positive? I mean, how do they know that the always-connected people simply just doesn't have a higher (or different) baseline for "positive"? I mean, sure, they might have had a lower enjoyment of the experience but did they have a higher overall enjoyment for the timeslot?
(Really, what is it with people and assuming a single person can fill enough mindspace to not make you bored enough that you start seeing how high you can get with mental fibonnaci-sequences?)
(rant below)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @10:16AM
Yeah, right, a skillful hand works wonders.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 13 2018, @09:50PM
They get paid for this stuff?! Most of it is childishly obvious.
"compassionate people spend less time on social media than people who are more self-centered and narcissistic"
"people who are uncomfortable with their own and others' emotions may be more comfortable online"
The only interesting thing I drew from any of it is that the researchers are only capable of talking in terms of "more social media" or "less social media". They don't seem to understand there is such a concept as "no social media". People who use "less heroin" are still junkies.