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posted by mrpg on Sunday December 09 2018, @02:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-are-doomed! dept.

Mozilla's CEO is not enthusiastic about Microsoft's switch to Chromium:

When Microsoft announced that its Edge browser would be revamped using Chromium, the internet's response was generally quite positive. Edge is far from the worst browser on the planet, but it's certainly not what we'd call a fan favorite. As such, even the slightest indication that it could be changed significantly would have been welcome news for many.

However, it would seem that "many" doesn't include one individual in particular: Mozilla CEO Chris Beard. In a blog post published today, titled "Goodbye, EdgeHTML," Beard expressed his frustrations with Microsoft's decision.

"By adopting Chromium, Microsoft hands over control of even more of online life to Google," Beard writes in the post. "This may sound melodramatic, but it's not. The "browser engines" — Chromium from Google and Gecko Quantum from Mozilla — are "inside baseball" pieces of software that actually determine a great deal of what each of us can do online."

Microsoft's switch to Chromium could be a big boon for Google's own implementation.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:02PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:02PM (#771938)

    Why are people having such a hard time understanding that there are more than two browsers out there? I have 6 browsers installed and I use them all. Don't like Google tracking you? Use Flashpeak Slimjet, based on the open-source code, but with the phone-home code removed. Don't like Mozilla Firefox? Try Pale Moon (similar alteration) or Qupzilla or Vivaldi. And then there's TorBrowser. Open your mind to the possibilities. Don't follow others.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:05PM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:05PM (#771941) Journal

    Yes, no. There are basically only two browsers out there. The rest are rebranded, recompiled versions of the first two. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine what the exceptions might be.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:20PM (#771973)

      The exceptions are stuff like dillo, which works, but doesn't support javascript or a lot of other things that are necessary for many pages to work. lynx/links/elinks/w3m/netsurf are all cool, but have the same limitations as dillo. QtWebEngine and WebkitGTK are more or less just stripped down chrome. Gecko is really the only thing preventing web-rendering from being a complete monoculture.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by crafoo on Sunday December 09 2018, @10:22PM

      by crafoo (6639) on Sunday December 09 2018, @10:22PM (#772106)

      It's true. Mostly due to browsers trying to do far more than they should. It's interesting watching the cross-platform promise of the web crumble as the browser takes over more and more of the OS and desktop GUI.. while quickly fragmenting everything. I laugh when someone tells me, "just try it in a different browser until it works". Oh great. So your answer is I have to have ALL "operating systems" installed to do anything with my day.

      Javascript was a mistake.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @09:36AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 10 2018, @09:36AM (#772291)

      Brave?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 10 2018, @10:13AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 10 2018, @10:13AM (#772302) Journal

        What is the Brave web browser?

        It’s a web browser in the traditional sense of the term. It allows you to surf the web, explore sites, and do all the general internet stuff you can do in other browsers. It’s open source and built on top of the Chromium web browser that Google’s own Chrome is based on. Brave was created by the co-founder of the Mozilla Project, Brendan Eich.

        That "built on top of" indicates that it is just another re-compiled and rebranded Chrome browser. So, we are still looking at two browsers, basically.

        But, don't let that discourage you from using Brave in preference to Chrome. That re-compiling of source code removes tons of crap that Google puts into it for the express purpose of tracking you.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:12PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @03:12PM (#771942)

    This isn't about browsers but rendering engines. E.g. Mozilla Firefox == Pale Moon == Tor Browser in this regard.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:54PM (#771985)

    "We're sorry, your browser is suspicious. Access denied by cloud flare."

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:59PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:59PM (#771987)

    spotted the windows user...

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:40PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09 2018, @05:40PM (#772012)

    Step one: please realize that there is a difference between a rendering engine and a browser, just like there is a difference between a combustion engine, drivetrain and car's chassis (look ma, a car analogy!).
    Step two: please re-read the article with your newfound knowledge.
    Step three: try commenting again.

    • (Score: 1) by DeVilla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @06:23PM

      by DeVilla (5354) on Tuesday December 11 2018, @06:23PM (#772975)

      This seems more the difference between a Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon.