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On Stack Overflow Jobs, you can create your own Developer Story to showcase your achievements and advance your career. One option you have when creating a Developer Story is to add tags you would like to work with or would not like to work with:
[...] The most disliked languages, by a fairly large margin, are Perl, Delphi, and VBA. They're followed by PHP, Objective-C, Coffeescript, and Ruby. On our team we're certainly happy to see that R is the least disliked programming language, relative to the number of people who liked it.
[...] Generally there is a relationship between a tag's growth and how often it's disliked. Almost everything disliked by more than 3% of stories mentioning it is shrinking in Stack Overflow traffic (except for the quite polarizing VBA, which is steady or slightly growing). And the least-disliked tags— R, Rust, Typescript and Kotlin— are all among the fast-growing tags (Typescript and Kotlin growing so quickly they had to be truncated in the plot).
Hate away, guys, you just make my skills and willingness to write perl more valuable.
Source: What Are the Most Disliked Programming Languages?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @10:31AM (6 children)
I don't really get the hate for Delphi.
I haven't used it in a while, but its (Object)Pascal dialect was fairly solid, it had a useful UI designer (that allowed you to easily write programs that scaled reasonably when resizing).
The language may be a bit verbose, but quite usable, nice to read most of the time and made it a bit harder to shoot yourself in the foot than C did, and interoperability with C code was good, and its inline assembler support was one of the simplest to use by far (though admittedly it only supported instructions the compiler knew about).
I guess it's a language with not much happening in terms improvements anymore and it feels a bit stale (IMHO far from feeling as stale as Java though), but that hardly makes it horrible.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @02:07PM
(Score: 2) by fadrian on Sunday November 05 2017, @02:11PM
The main reason for Delphi hate is that much of the code out there in Delphi was written by amateurs. I.e., it sucks. It's not the language itself, which besides from being verbose, was a fairly good implementation of an OO language. I imagine the same issue holds with many of the other "hated" languages. Certainly Perl and PHP fall into this category.
That is all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @02:12PM (3 children)
The price? https://www.code-partners.com/product/delphi/ [code-partners.com]
Back in the old Borland days it was a lot more affordable.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @09:10PM
I remember the full official price as always having been insanely expensive, and it's in line with other IDEs like VisualStudio I think...
For those who don't want to spend that kind of money there is Delphi Starter and there is FreePascal with Lazarus IDE which is close enough for many things.
Either way, is that really a reason to hate the language?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @11:06PM (1 child)
When I started reading this (sub)thread, the 1st thing that struck me was the closed-source proprietary nature of Delphi.
Going to my usual source when I encounter these sorts of things, I see Lazarus and CodeTyphon. [alternativeto.net]
Anybody used either of those FOSS tools?
Is either a nice alternative to Delphi?
Free Pascal is also mentioned. Comments on that?
Mostly what I see on that page appears to be stupidity.
#1 on the list of "replacements" for Delphi is Microsoft Visual Studio.
Has anyone ever moved a project produced with Delphi and continued development with that MSFT tool?
...or is this simply another case of over 700 nitwits with a useless opinion?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @06:06PM
FreePascal is the compiler and what Lazarus uses in the end.
Lazarus is an IDE, and I think it compares nicely at least to older versions of Delphi.
Though with FreePascal it's quite possible to move away from the IDE and use a "proper" build-system if you want.
Compatibility with Delphi isn't 100%, but unless it's a gigantic project it seemed to me it shouldn't be that much work to convert.
Not more than converting a project from e.g. Delphi 7 to the latest version at least, for me that never worked smoothly anyway.