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posted by takyon on Tuesday February 20 2018, @01:59AM   Printer-friendly
from the everybody-knows dept.

From The Verge:

Google didn't violate labor laws by firing engineer James Damore for a memo criticizing the company's diversity program, according to a recently disclosed letter from the US National Labor Relations Board. The lightly redacted statement is written by Jayme Sophir, associate general counsel of the NLRB's division of advice; it dates to January, but was released yesterday, according to Law.com. Sophir concludes that while some parts of Damore's memo were legally protected by workplace regulations, "the statements regarding biological differences between the sexes were so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive as to be unprotected."

Damore filed an NLRB complaint in August of 2017, after being fired for internally circulating a memo opposing Google's diversity efforts. Sophir recommends dismissing the case; Bloomberg reports that Damore withdrew it in January, and that his lawyer says he's focusing on a separate lawsuit alleging discrimination against conservative white men at Google. NLRB records state that its case was closed on January 19th.

There are White House Staff positions open, I hear.

Previously: Google Fires Author of Divisive Memo on Gender Differences
Google Cancels "Town Hall" Due to Leaks


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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:38PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:38PM (#640865)

    The rest left mostly because either the money to be made was misrepresented to them.

    Huh?

    I got burned for age. education, and my nerd cred in three sentences 'I was running an 8 line BBS before you got your first modem. Also, I'm in COLLEGE. I am just here because they didn't offer this class there, so I was allowed to enroll in it here.'

    Ouch!

    Out of all of those polled, sexism was actually the *LAST* reason for any of them not entering the field. 'I can't been seen in a nerdy field' was #1 among the non-SEM people. The next group were trying to get into a field their culture respected. The third group hadn't grown up with computers and considered them a black box. And the rest had already figured out that many other fields both had better pay and better respect, unless you were using it as a backdoor path to management.

    This is the thing that the STEM advocates just don't seem to get (or don't want to). They think STEM, especially programming, is some highly-coveted career field that pays a fortune, and it really isn't. It pays better than flipping burgers of course, and many other middle-class jobs requiring lower skills and education, but for really smart people able to do this work effectively, there's other career fields out there that are more lucrative, more interesting, more fulfilling or helpful to humanity, have better job security, or some combination of those, and on top of that, have better prestige. Which has higher prestige, a medical doctor or a Python programmer? Well, try asking out a bunch of desirable women (or men if you're female or gay), after claiming to be one or the other of those two, and see which one nets you more dates. And if you're worried about doing something to help people or humanity, which one is a better bet? Any highly-experience programmer should be able to tell you that it's *very* unlikely that your work as a programmer is really going to help humanity--very few programmers get to work on something genuinely useful to millions like Google Maps or a NASA project or a particle collider or medical device; most of them are lucky if whatever CRUD application they worked on actually gets used for a while to calculate payroll for some company, instead of being thrown in the trash because it "missed a market window" or whatever. However, work as a medical doctor and you're almost guaranteed to be helping people. Or if you want a highly-paid career that requires high attention to detail, but will also last you to retirement, law is a much better bet than programming. As a bonus, if you're a lawyer, you'll get a FAR nicer office to work in than almost any programmer these days, as lawyers (and even their assistants) get nice, comfortable offices to work in, whereas programmers are treated like cattle and forced to work in "open plan" offices with zero privacy and constant distractions.

    The main way to be extremely successful in tech is to either move into management, AND do really well there (which means you have to be skilled at corporate politicking), or start your own business and be lucky enough for it to win big.

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