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posted by chromas on Tuesday June 18 2019, @03:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the two-minutes-hate dept.

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The FCC recently auctioned spectrum in the 24GHz band under controversial circumstances, as experts from other federal agencies warned that cellular transmissions in that band may significantly reduce the accuracy of weather forecasts.

When asked about the controversy at yesterday's Senate Commerce Committee hearing, Pai said that data provided by NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is faulty. He also criticized the agencies for raising concerns "at the 11th hour."

Calling NOAA's study "fundamentally flawed," Pai said, "For example, it ignores the fact that 5G will involve beamforming, essentially adaptive antenna arrays that will more precisely send 5G signals—sort of a rifle shot, if you will, instead of a shotgun blast of 5G spectrum."

Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/06/ajit-pai-says-noaa-and-nasa-are-wrong-about-5g-harming-weather-forecasts/

See also: 5G likely to mess with weather forecasts, but FCC auctions spectrum anyway


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:42PM (7 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:42PM (#857059) Journal

    Some other1 countries which make up the other 96 % of the world's population also put satellites into orbit for various porpoises.

    They might not be happy about this, despite how political favors can be bought and sold within the US for the benefit of a few.

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    1Yes, there ARE actually other sovereign countries outside of the US.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:47PM (#857061)

    Some other1 countries which make up the other 96 % of the world's population also put satellites into orbit for various porpoises.

    They might not be happy about this, despite how political favors can be bought and sold within the US for the benefit of a few.

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    1Yes, there ARE actually other sovereign countries outside of the US.

    and dolphins and whales and ...

  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:47PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday June 18 2019, @04:47PM (#857062)

    > Yes, there ARE actually other sovereign countries outside of the US.

    Huawei and Tehran would like to point out you're not actually wrong, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @05:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @05:14PM (#857071)

    No, there are no other sovereign countries outside of the US, you just wish. In fact there are no sovereign countries, period, as apparently neither the US is a sovereign country. There are some rogue countries though, but we'll see about the "there are" part, unless those are just other puppets in the show, too, or rather, captured feral beasts for another kind of show - oblivious of the script, but nevertheless controlled.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by hwertz on Tuesday June 18 2019, @05:16PM (2 children)

    by hwertz (8141) on Tuesday June 18 2019, @05:16PM (#857072)

    Just to debunk what Pai says, transmissions in a voice or data session to the device may be beamformed, but the paging channel and such ARE NOT. In analog (0G) up through 4G, the paging channel is transmitted in all directions. This is the channel the phone waits on when it's not actually in a call or data session, so it can be told when a call, text, or data is coming in, or start an outgoing call, text, or data. When nothing is going on, it only contacts the site about every 10-15 minutes (to save battery power mainly). Power control and beamforming are not possible without feedback from the phone (signal strength info and such).

    *Existing 2G-4G systems, even with no beamforming, do at least use power control to use the lowest amount of power to keep a clean voice or data signal; both for battery life purposes, and to reduce interference on the channel.

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    On the other hand, is this 5G really going to bleed over 450mhz outside it's band? I do question whether this will really be a problem or not.

    • (Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Tuesday June 18 2019, @07:17PM (1 child)

      by DutchUncle (5370) on Tuesday June 18 2019, @07:17PM (#857143)

      >>> ... whether this will really be a problem or not.

      Good point. Hmm. I suppose TESTING it before allowing the situation to become a fait accompli would be too hard?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @01:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @01:56AM (#857287)

        Quiet, they're creating jobs.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @09:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 18 2019, @09:32PM (#857183)

    If that 96% of the world does have a problem and doesn't deregulate the same bands, the phones might never be produced since they can only sell to 4% of the market.