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posted by mrpg on Friday August 18 2017, @12:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the color-me...-anything dept.

Over at StatNews is a story on a recent trend where low cost commercial DNA testing is resulting in a number of White Nationalists taking genetic tests, and sometimes they don't like the results that come back.

The article looks at research on how they respond to the sometimes unexpected results:

[...] In a new study, sociologists Aaron Panofsky and Joan Donovan examined years' worth of posts on Stormfront to see how members dealt with the news.

[...] About a third of the people posting their results were pleased with what they found. "Pretty damn pure blood," said a user with the username Sloth. But the majority didn't find themselves in that situation. Instead, the community often helped them reject the test, or argue with its results.

Some rejected the tests entirely, saying that an individual's knowledge about his or her own genealogy is better than whatever a genetic test can reveal. [...] Others, he said, responded to unwanted genetic results by saying that those kinds of tests don't matter if you are truly committed to being a white nationalist. Yet others tried to discredit the genetic tests as a Jewish conspiracy "that is trying to confuse true white Americans about their ancestry," Panofsky said.


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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday August 21 2017, @02:07PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Monday August 21 2017, @02:07PM (#557027)

    I thought about it a bit more and the problem boils down to nobody cares about cousins (well, mostly) and everyone cares about ancestors but population DNA testing can't tell the difference. So DNA testing shows I have a lot of cousins in Scotland, Germany, and areas where Scots and Germans have immigrated like Argentina and Australia. However I've done the genealogical research to prove I only have direct ancestors in Germany and Scotland. So merely having cousins in Australia and Argentina does NOT prove I have ancestors there. This is where a lot of confusion is created. I am provably genetically related to Australians and Argentinians, but they're not my individual ancestors.

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  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Monday August 21 2017, @11:37PM

    by Arik (4543) on Monday August 21 2017, @11:37PM (#557282) Journal
    Cousins is one part of it.

    It's far from all though.

    When they're looking at genes that are subject to selection, those genes tend to match roughly with climate zones. So this can create apparent 'cousins' that actually don't share any recent ancestors with you, simply because the ancestors of both lived for a long period in a similar climate and some of the same genes were selected for heavily.

    Also humankind had a relatively recent population bottleneck. This means we are ALL inbred cousins, in a sense, world wide, if you just go back far enough. This only intensifies the effect of selection, because all human populations start from a very very similar genetic base, as a result of the population bottleneck. You start with a similar genetic base in two places, you subject both populations to similar stimuli (environment) and you may reasonably expect some similar outcomes.

    They prove nothing at all ancestry.
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