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A small community in northern Michigan believes it has been touched by an angel after a motion-sensor camera captured a mysterious object apparently looming over a parked vehicle. People online, however, remain unconvinced.
Please, that's so obviously Arthur.
Source: https://www.rt.com/usa/426544-angel-vision-moth-debate/
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(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:07PM (5 children)
I personally think its our lord and savior, Moth Man!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:29PM
You say "Angel", I say "Angle" [butterfliesandmoths.org]
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday May 13 2018, @11:06PM
Huh -- and after reading so many times on this (and that other site), that it was a myth [goodreads.com].
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday May 14 2018, @12:34PM
(H. Jon Benjamin voice) Uhhhhh, okay.
http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/Mothmonsterman [wikia.com]
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday May 14 2018, @04:01PM
Chapstick! [youtube.com]
Richard, is that you?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:51PM
No wonder Adam and Eve were naked: he ate their clothes.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:20PM (8 children)
"Now I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds!"
J. Robert Oppenheimer, quoting the Bhagavad Gita [wikipedia.org]
"We have become Weekly World News, reporters of angel sightings and Bat Boy!"
SN, right here, right now.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday May 13 2018, @11:59PM (2 children)
I dunno, I kind of like to see a little bit of silliness in the news now and then. By all means, keep it to slow Sundays, but if we don't have anything especially interesting to fill the time, where's the harm?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @04:51AM (1 child)
I'm unable to find the link just now but the Chron's website has a section for the stories they wouldn't even dream of printing.
For example the gentleman show showed up at the Emergency Room with his butthole full of now- hardened concrete.
The ER doc was puzzled about a spherical void that showed up in his x-rays. Surgery yielded the insight that it was a ping-pong ball.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday May 14 2018, @05:54AM
Careful Mike, SF Gate is so full of paid for click-bait that even Faux News can't keep up.
The Musk/Trump interview appears to have been hacked, but not a DDOS hack...more like A Distributed Denial of Reality.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @04:48AM (4 children)
I've got the domain back but it's not configured yet:
Kiss Your Sorry Ass Goodbye, The Atom Bomb Is Gonna Fly [hydrogenbomb.org]
Real Soon Now, I promise I'll fix it.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday May 14 2018, @07:57AM (2 children)
You should post all the known plans on how to build nukes (declassified and reverse engineered by the public) on that domain.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Immerman on Monday May 14 2018, @01:56PM (1 child)
Couldn't swear to it, but I suspect reverse engineer military secrets are still considered military secrets. Or at the very least that they will be treated as such under the assumption that the "reverse engineering" was actually a leak, and it will be up to you to prove otherwise. From within your windowless cell.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @08:49PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_Inc. [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @09:11PM
http://ethicsgirls.com/hydrogenbomb/ [ethicsgirls.com]
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 4, Funny) by looorg on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:23PM (19 children)
The end is nigh! Isn't this some kind of sign of the coming apocalypse? Angels showing up. A new war is brewing in the middle east (on the other hand WHEN was there NOT a war in the middle east) .. Armageddon is close at hand. Upside being then that Jesus will return ...
That said I somehow don't think I'll start to repent my sins just yet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:29PM (16 children)
It wont be just jesus returning, everyone who had the balls to say theyd return will return. Actually, where in the bible does jesus even say he will return?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:04PM (1 child)
There's this Wikipedia article. [wikipedia.org]
From the looks of it Jesus never mentioned it, but Matthew did and he would know I suppose.
I guess it is just something Christians believe, but then Christians believe a whole lot of pretty zany stuff, so that's no surprise.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:16PM
So lots of people will return, but not jesus?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:04PM (1 child)
I forget the verse, but he says "I will return ... after lunch."
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday May 14 2018, @04:15AM
You sure you don't confuse this with "I'll be back"? 'Cause that would be someone else entirely.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:05PM (11 children)
Wasn't Jesus supposed to return 40 years after ascending to heaven after being rezzied or some figure in that neighborhood?
Actually, I think he did finally come back after 2k years. He's now in charge of setting release dates for Star Citizen!
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday May 14 2018, @12:42AM (10 children)
Jesus was supposed to return during the lifetimes of his original believers, but didn't.
The fact they were so obviously wrong about something which seems to be pretty fundamental doesn't seem to have done the whole Christianity thing much harm though.
Jesus coming back and ending the world seems to be a core belief among Christians, but if you sit back and really think about it, it seems not only unlikely but also a really bad idea.
(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Monday May 14 2018, @01:17AM (2 children)
He's coming back at Ragnarok because Hel is bringing him together with all the others who didn't make into Valhalla. Duh. ;)
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday May 14 2018, @02:33AM
Good to know.
I will plan accordingly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @06:20PM
Is that a DC/Marvel crossover?
Wait--is Jesus a DC character, even?
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday May 14 2018, @03:42PM (2 children)
What? No. That was what the disciples interpreted "soon" to mean, but he never gave a time frame IIRC.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday May 15 2018, @12:30AM (1 child)
Well, OK then. There is this quote:
from the Wikipedia article about the Second Coming. So at least some of them thought he was on his way.
Maybe they didn't look behind the sofa.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday May 15 2018, @04:04PM
Yes, that was my point: the disciples expected him to come back in their lifetimes, but there are numerous examples in the Bible where the disciples are rather thick. They kept asking him when he was going to kick out the Romans and start his earthly kingdom, and he kept going, "dude, I've told you a hundred times that's not my bag."
Cf. the unexpected hanging paradox [wikipedia.org].
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:15PM (3 children)
> Jesus was supposed to return during the lifetimes of his original believers, but didn't.
It's as if people turned off the brain when discussing religion, especially the atheists.
On one corner we have the literal interpretation of "this generation"
On the other corner we have the fact that if you were right, then Jesus would have given his disciples 15-20 years to travel the whole world and convert everybody.
So?
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday May 15 2018, @02:17PM
Well, to be precise, it's the concept of the reign of god to be discussed, not the translation of "this generation". Still, absurd is reached by grandparent's assertion.
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(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday May 15 2018, @10:33PM (1 child)
I'm not sure what you're arguing here.
Are we supposed to accept the new testament as being somehow rational and literal?
I don't view Christianity as anything other than just another middle eastern sect, albeit one that gained a huge amount of political influence during the late antiquity period, and managed to hold onto that until well into the modern age.
Arguing about interpretations of passages in the Bible is no different to arguing about when Ragnarok will come.
It's all just stories.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:13PM
> Are we supposed to accept the new testament as being somehow rational and literal?
No, because rationality either takes into account all aspects or derives wrong conclusions. Literally also is difficult because you are working on a translated nth generation text. You are not even supposed to accept it at all, you're strongly encouraged to listen, though.
You started from a premise that is debatable ("nobody knows the day or the hour, not even the Son" says some version, what does rationally implies?) and does not take into account the other apparent problems in determining the kingdom of god (which seems not to refer to the end times only, but to every situation where the conscience or people recognize the authority of god over them) and relies on a specific meaning of "this generation". If you are arguing against something and you start by misunderstanding it, I can claim your brain is offline.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @04:46AM (1 child)
From Solving the Software Problem's [warplife.com] intro:
and....
Last but not least:
This my honest opinion that the very most-dangerous period in the Cold War was the early years of Regan's presidency.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday May 14 2018, @06:58PM
I opened my embassy in Jerusalem today. Jeanine Pirro on @FoxNews [twitter.com] said I made the Bible come true. A prophecy in the Bible. Very proud that I did something for God that God couldn't do for himself!!!!
(Score: 3, Funny) by arcz on Sunday May 13 2018, @08:30PM (8 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:07PM (2 children)
This needs a high mothapixel camera.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @12:26AM (1 child)
I'm tired of these mothrafuckin pixels on the mothrafucking cameras.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Monday May 14 2018, @02:14AM
Now I'm not sayin' it's and angel or not, but I bet I could remove that "angel" from the picture with one squirt of bug spray.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:16PM
Light field cameras to catch pristine imagery of angels, UFOs, ghosts, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lytro [wikipedia.org]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:39PM
There's a reason this shit doesn't happen in Russia.
Cameras Kill Aliens.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:59PM
In this case, I'd say depth of field is more important than resolution because at any resolution, that moth is way inside the depth of field of that camera. Because a deep depth of field requires a very small aperture, working on the sensitivity of the sensors would likely be useful and probably easier to lower resolutions because each individual sensor can be a larger size.
(Score: 3, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @04:43AM
Consider also the dynamic range. My iPhone has eight million pixels but a very poor dynamic range.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @06:42AM
[encrypted transmission follows] Report from the Social Justice Warrior Special Squad, Babysitting Group. We have been surveilling the arcz for the past several weeks. Cause for concern is given. Target has shown tendencies toward radicalization, albeit without the maturity or physical understanding to actually be a threat. Suggested tactics include the surreptitious introduction of stuffed animals into target's sleeping quarters, spoofed letters of acceptance from non-existent (or only Betsy DeVos approved) law schools. Our Group will continue observation, and report any signs of puberty by the target. Over/Out, Head SJW Commandant, Special Social Justice Babysitting Squad.[end encrypted transmission, using Ostrich Protocol, 12-34]
(Score: 3, Funny) by BK on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:31PM (5 children)
Well, my first vote is that it's a moth. But if you must have a supernatural explanation, I agree that it could be an angel... pissing on their truck. I wonder if that helps or hurts the mileage...?
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 3, Funny) by hemocyanin on Sunday May 13 2018, @10:01PM (1 child)
I'm not skilled enough to figure it out from the fuzzy side view, but is god a Chevy or Ford person?
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday May 14 2018, @04:54AM
Obviously, God is blessing the pick-up truck, and Ford is the prophet for stopping selling regular sedans in the US.
(Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Monday May 14 2018, @03:45AM
To me, it looks like a giant kitten wearing a blond wig jumping over the truck.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday May 14 2018, @03:45PM
I'd say the straight bit looks more like a sword. Unless angels can piss with no arc on their streams? Holy gravity-defying urine?
But yeah, moth flying past the camera looks pretty plausible. Can't really tell how far away the image is.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:16PM
The supernatural hypothesis lacks the religious meaning of the appearance indeed.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Informative) by corey on Sunday May 13 2018, @09:56PM (6 children)
But I'll bite.
Looks like usual Ockham's Razor at work with people. Something unknown or misunderstood - mist be a supernatural/religious entity!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @10:06PM (2 children)
Is it an angel, or stargate?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday May 14 2018, @04:16AM
It's RT. Like in "Russia Times".
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @11:32AM
Neither, Vorlon FTW.....
(Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Monday May 14 2018, @12:14AM (2 children)
When I look at it, all I see is an oddly shaped puff of vapor and/or smoke. Sort of looks like it is coming from the camper on the back of that truck, but too low resolution and not enough information about the objects behind it to be sure.
This is news how, exactly?
Right. Probably just trying to troll the intelligent who know better than to believe in magic sky fairies.
No such thing as angels. Sorry about that :\
No such thing as the supernatural either. Sorry about that. :\
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @07:27AM
That was my first thought also, but I completely forgot about the third dimension (I have a valid excuse: It's early Monday morning here).
A moth too close for the camera to be able to focus would pretty much look like the picture.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 14 2018, @08:27AM
> No such thing as angels. Sorry about that :\
I agree, but: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-believe-in-angels/ [cbsnews.com]
(Score: 2) by crafoo on Sunday May 13 2018, @10:38PM
How do cameras work, I'm a dummy, the blog post.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @10:58PM
Can angels shapeshift?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 13 2018, @11:51PM
Since everyone else is weighing in on their crazy theories...
It is most absolutely, positively, definitely, derpolutly, no questions asked, all hooves down, a pegasi pony!
She's come to deliver us some mail! The end is neigh!
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 14 2018, @04:41AM (1 child)
's in Cape Breton back in the day.
I happened to chat with the manager of the place some years after it happened. He was overjoyed to discuss it with me as he had the very happy memories of selling a metric fuckton of donuts and coffee.
I miss Tim Horton's, I really do. I always liked their chili.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday May 14 2018, @04:09PM
The iceberg donut [tripadvisor.com] sold at the St. Anthony's location was meh.
The coconut cream [doughnutplant.com] at the Donut Plant in Brooklyn is, however, worth a stop.
In fact Tim Horton's is quite overrated (sorry, Canadians!). If you're gonna splurge, go large: gourmet donuts [timeout.com].
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by OrugTor on Monday May 14 2018, @04:23PM
It's all fun and games until you remember the Jesus Monkey swarm gets to vote.
(Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Monday May 14 2018, @06:20PM
His name is Mike Pence. And he's doing an incredible job. Thank you, Mike!
I don't see the angel in the pictures. Or the moth. I see beautiful, classy American cars (JOBS). And I saw the face on Mars. I'm sending a little helicopter to Mars to get a better look at that one.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Monday May 14 2018, @08:48PM
They're cute and fluffy - angel enough for this soylentil.