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posted by mrpg on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the sticks-and-stones-may-break-my-bones-but-nothing-seems-to-hurt-me dept.

At 71, She's Never Felt Pain or Anxiety. Now Scientists Know Why.

She'd been told that childbirth was going to be painful. But as the hours wore on, nothing bothered her — even without an epidural.

"I could feel that my body was changing, but it didn't hurt me," recalled the woman, Jo Cameron, who is now 71. She likened it to "a tickle." Later, she would tell prospective mothers, "Don't worry, it's not as bad as people say it is."

It was only recently — more than four decades later — that she learned her friends were not exaggerating.

Rather, there was something different about the way her body experienced pain: For the most part, it didn't.

Scientists believe they now understand why. In a paper published Thursday in The British Journal of Anaesthesia, researchers attributed Ms. Cameron's virtually pain-free life to a mutation in a previously unidentified gene. The hope, they say, is that the finding could eventually contribute to the development of a novel pain treatment. They believe this mutation may also be connected to why Ms. Cameron has felt little anxiety or fear throughout her life and why her body heals quickly.

"We've never come across a patient like this," said John Wood, the head of the Molecular Nociception Group at University College London.

[...] Dr. Srivastava referred her to University College London's Molecular Nociception Group, a team focused on genetic approaches to understanding the biology of pain and touch. They had some clues for her. In recent decades, scientists have identified dozens of other people who process pain in unusual ways. But when Dr. James Cox, a senior lecturer with that group and another author of the new paper, inspected her genetic profile, it did not resemble that of others known to live without pain.

Eventually he found what he was looking for on a gene the scientists call FAAH-OUT. All of us have this gene. But in Ms. Cameron's, "the patient has a deletion that removes the front of the gene," he said. Additional blood work confirmed this hypothesis, he said.

No pain, no gain?


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:25PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:25PM (#822733)

    If no pain from menstruation or childbirth, I think we have to reject her from womanhood. After all, without pain she has never truly experienced those things and only has a bathroom rapist's understanding of them.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:34PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:34PM (#822738) Journal

      *yawn*

      From my understanding, some women suffer horribly from both menstruation, and from childbirth. Other women, not so much. So, should we classify women, and put them in groups or classes, based on how much they suffer? How 'bout you name all those classes for us. That should be entertaining.

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      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by krishnoid on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:06PM (2 children)

        by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:06PM (#822813)

        100: "Living without pain and fear" (course fees: retroviral therapy lab costs: $200)
        101: "Living your fullest life and gaslighting guys who complain about pain or fear" (prerequisites: 100)
        201: "Street fighting techniques to get back at those guys who bullied you in school"
        etc.

        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:27PM

          by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:27PM (#822821)

          Whoops, scanned too quickly and came up with the wrong kind of "class". Ah well.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 01 2019, @01:19AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 01 2019, @01:19AM (#822924) Journal

          There, there, show me on the dollie where the mean lady refused to touch you, no matter how "nice" you were to her...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:22PM (#822758)

      Wow, you're kind of desperate aren't you? Grasping at straws, trying to diminish any woman in any way possible?

  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:37PM (2 children)

    by mhajicek (51) on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:37PM (#822740)

    For making supersoldiers. Just need to add genes for massive muscle growth and unthinking loyalty.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:28PM (#822760)

      So, CRISPR her with a pit bull?

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:13PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday March 31 2019, @08:13PM (#822817)

      Too much work. Just send the guys in for the hand-to-hand stuff [youtube.com], and add the genes for sharpshooting and artillery calculations.

  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:39PM (5 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:39PM (#822742) Journal

    From TFA

    But though having this mutation may sound like a dream, there are downsides. One is that she is quite forgetful; prone to losing her keys and her train of thought midsentence. The other is that she’s never felt the “adrenaline rush” that other people talk about, she said.

    It seems like th.....

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:04PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:04PM (#822753) Journal

      Damn, I didn't realize that RandomFactor was one of those mutant thingies! At least he/she isn't one of the lizard people.

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      • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday March 31 2019, @05:49PM (2 children)

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @05:49PM (#822776) Journal

        At least he/she isn't one of the lizard people.

        Lizard People" [vox.com]

        lizard person tells:

                Green eyes
                Good eyesight or hearing
                Having red hair
                A sense of not belonging to the human race
                Unexplained scars on the body
                Love of space
                Low blood pressure

        So, is it a preponderance thing, or just missing one or two would clear me?

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 31 2019, @06:40PM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @06:40PM (#822789) Journal

          Nahhh, it's only that you can't be a mutant human AND a lizard person. Unless, you're a hybrid? :^)

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          • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Sunday March 31 2019, @06:58PM

            by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @06:58PM (#822793) Journal

            I find your logic sstrangely compelling.

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    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 31 2019, @10:32PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 31 2019, @10:32PM (#822869) Homepage

      I've heard about this kind of thing years ago. And it's a big deal because she was a kid once and it's a bad thing for kids to feel no pain. People born with the mutation, while young, need constant supervision because there's no rate-limiter for them getting scraped up and skinning their knees down to the bone etc.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:54PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @03:54PM (#822750)

    Promoting Elsevier is a no no these days...

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:24PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:24PM (#822759)

      Linking to != promoting. Just ask any file sharing or news site.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:04PM (1 child)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:04PM (#822835) Journal

        Link the company site [algordanza.com] then.

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:10PM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:10PM (#822840) Journal

          Oh, fuck, wrong story.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @10:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @10:32PM (#822870)

    We have pain for a reason, if you dont feel it at all you can easily severely hurt yourself.

    Its not an advantage.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by crafoo on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:14PM (1 child)

    by crafoo (6639) on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:14PM (#822882)

    Pain and anxiety are feedback. I would think without either life would be very odd, and in some ways disturbing.

    Sounds like a great genetic modification if your goal is to build useful, disposable tools in human form. I must be getting old. This future rushing at us scares me a little.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 13 2019, @06:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 13 2019, @06:38AM (#828897)

      And this future scares me a lot. I've been working for almost 10 years now on finding a way out, because neither politically or socially are things going to improve. But it appears more people are with them, rather than with me, no matter how much they dislike the status quo.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:39PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:39PM (#822885)

    Comign up with a better way to dope the populace? Anxiety, fear, pain, these are all natural and useful tools. Turn these off and you create psychopaths.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday April 01 2019, @02:17AM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 01 2019, @02:17AM (#822947) Journal

      Anxiety, fear, pain, these are all natural and useful tools. Turn these off and you create psychopaths.

      So was this woman a psychopath? Doesn't sound like it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @11:00PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @11:00PM (#823305)

        You wouldn't know from this write-up. In psychopathy (which operates on a spectrum) there is a disconnect with empathy. This sort of malady would create that type of disconnect where pain and anxiety are unrelatable. Tylenol was interestingly found to inhibit emotional pain as well. Depending on the pathways effected by this mutation, and some non-conservative painting by numbers, it's conceivable this would alleviate even emotional pain, further destroying an individual's capacity to empathize.

        https://dept.wofford.edu/neuroscience/NeuroSeminar/psfSpring2013/DeWall.pdf [wofford.edu]

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:08AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:08AM (#823400) Journal

          This sort of malady would create that type of disconnect where pain and anxiety are unrelatable.

          Could != would. We have the actual example of the woman thinking that birthing pain was no big deal, because it was no big deal for her. That might have caused some problems. But that is a far cry from lack of empathy. Of course, the story is too limited to give us an idea of whether she had trouble empathizing or sympathizing with other people.

          This sort of malady would create that type of disconnect where pain and anxiety are unrelatable.

          Depending on the degree of disconnect. But it is worth noting here that empathy is not that laudable an ability precisely because of those sociopaths who can fake emotional pain pretty well. Get too empathic, feeling the emotions that the sociopath is faking, then you become a gullible tool.

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