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A school in Indiana has been criticised for apparently shooting teachers "execution style" with pellets as part of an "active-shooter drill". The case has reignited conversations about the usefulness of drills and the methods used to prepare schools for shootings.
[...] Many experts agree that discussing and practising how to respond to a dangerous situation will help protect students who find themselves faced with the real thing. Fire drills, for example, are well established tools to teach children how to behave in a potentially life-threatening situation.
[...] While more realistic and stressful situations may be appropriate here, he says "large-scale, prolonged, realistic drills are not ideal" for children.
[...] "Children being asked to pose as victims on the floor covered in fake blood is just pointless and can be traumatising, I can't see why that's necessary."
Source: US school shootings: Have drills gone too far?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by pkrasimirov on Monday April 01 2019, @12:44PM (24 children)
Holy crap, what about adding charred disfigured bodies during the fire drills? Or screaming and jumping people just for the kicks!
I wonder what kind of autism it takes to organize this.
(Score: 2) by Revek on Monday April 01 2019, @01:53PM (2 children)
why do you think autism has something to do with this. Looks like NT behavior to me.
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(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Monday April 01 2019, @02:32PM (1 child)
No idea on the diagnosis really, I am nowhere near qualified to decide. But it looks so obvious deviation to me that it has to be a medical condition.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday April 01 2019, @04:19PM
Obsessive-Compulsive Death-focused Law Enforcement? The kind searching for the banned Video from a recent event by some nobody, for "educational purposes". Titillation. Perverts. Gun-based perverts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:00PM (3 children)
It isn't autism, it is NHST (like AB testing). They did some research and saw a "significant" change in some behavior after exposing people to this stuff. Then they go on to conclude everyone should be doing it. There is no actual consideration of costs or risks or other explanations, that gets a couple handwaving paragraphs at the end at best.
People refuse to believe when I mention how retarded most of what medical research advises doctors to do is at this point, but it is at the same level. It is institutionalized idiocy.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:10PM (2 children)
Medical research will improve, but only when we are able to synthesize the necessary organs to do proper medical experiments. Things like the heart cells on a chip for testing toxicity to the heart as an example.
One of the often forgotten legacies of WWII is that we no longer permit doctors to perform the necessary sorts of research to really determine what medical treatments work. We have to do proof via induction and we can't do longitudinal studies in cases where the treatment appears to work because it's unethical to deny effective treatments due in large part to the Tuskegee experiments relating to syphilis.
But yeah, right now a lot of those medical recommendations are based on little or dubious work. Sodium and cholesterol recommendations are largely based on fiction.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:36PM (1 child)
I looked into the RDA for magnesium the other day and it was based on very limited data available for a couple dozen people in the 1990s. Further, it was twice as high as a later study indicated.
And all values relied on the dubious assumption that everyone should consume exactly enough so that consumption - excretion = 0.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:35AM
The need for magnesium varies by person. Something about my past traumas seems to have rewired whatever systems (am guessing the HPA axis and the associated mineralocorticoid regulation pathways) handle my electrolytes, the result being at least 600mg a day as citrate is necessary for optimal function. Sure as hell the soil doesn't have anywhere near as much as it used to...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @02:13PM (1 child)
It teaches acting. It's fun. It may be effective.
On the other hand, it's not math or reading. There are too damn many distractions in school. Far too often, gets get marched off to do some weird shit. From my childhood I remember a day watching model rockets, a presentation by prostitutes and drug addicts about how everybody can get HIV (uh...), some sort of school sports cheering pep rally thing, a dude unicycling and miming on the stage, and fire drills in a school where every classroom had an exterior door. It's a huge waste of time.
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @03:28PM
That sounds like one crazy day of school.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bussdriver on Monday April 01 2019, @02:28PM (3 children)
Not even remotely autistic. Sadistic maybe... but most likely unimaginative low IQ people who are ignorant but quite confident in their attempt and motivated by altruism/righteousness.
It's most likely Dunning-Kruger.
Good righteous ignorant people can be as dangerous as evil people.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @04:10PM (1 child)
> Good righteous ignorant people can be as dangerous as evil people.
Sometimes even more.
Why is it so difficult to break a heroine addiction?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Nobuddy on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:55PM
A good man will do good.
An evil man will do evil.
For a good man to do evil requires religion. -Bertrand Russell
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @09:02PM
You're not kidding [www.lfg.co]. The only thing that can stand up to a good guy with a sword is another misinformed good guy with a sword in the heat of battle.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Farkus888 on Monday April 01 2019, @04:50PM (7 children)
I've been seeing this a lot lately. As an autistic person, I definitely understand why the LGBT community was offended by gay being the insult for everything. You show no understanding of what autism is. It is just a word you use for generic bad outsider. Sometimes people a lot like you do bad things. That is ok. There isn't any need to give them a label you aren't part of to make yourself feel better.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:18PM (1 child)
I'm not sure offended is the right word here. The use of terms like that to insult people is dehumanizing and degrading. Offensive is a much broader term that includes things that aren't particularly harmful to others, simply just things that hurt their feelings or cause them to feel disrespected.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday April 01 2019, @10:57PM
The dehumanizing bit seems like the key thing to me. If someone is not quite human, they're easy to hate.
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday April 02 2019, @10:43AM (4 children)
Perhaps you added a few grains of assumption to the text I wrote. Not only to the _why_ part but also to _what_ I actually wrote. I won't go into debuffing your claims one by one nor I want to share personal details about myself.
I wish you a nice day!
(Score: 2) by Farkus888 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @11:54AM (2 children)
Perhaps I read you wrong, that is part of the whole thing. I stand by what I said in general though. I have been seeing it far too often. Maybe they are just shitty people, maybe they just didn't think about it. I had to have the gay thing explained to me so I won't judge. Today I know someone using gay as an insult is shitty. I want the same thing for autism.
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:05PM (1 child)
I support you in what you said in general, and also I fully agree with that:
> using gay as an insult is shitty. I want the same thing for autism.
I don't know how's it in your part of the world but around here calling someone autist is nowhere near pejorative. I mean people just don't use it when trying to offend someone, they usually go for "gay" and racist slurs. Of course there are always some bright persons, as everywhere. I remember a story when two boys were laughing to a person because he's blind... but it is so absurd so it got famous. So yeah, sorry to hear about your experiences with this kind of people.
(Score: 2) by Farkus888 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @07:58PM
It isn't my experience in the real world that is the problem. In the real world once anyone gets past the initial awkwardness they are almost always nice. I can only think of one example and they are a generally mean person anyway. It is internet comments, because internet comments are where everyone encounters the worst people they'll see all day.
(Score: 2) by Nobuddy on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:57PM
Perhaps you came across wrong. what did you mean by "how autistic do you have to be" in your comment?
(Score: 4, Touché) by isostatic on Monday April 01 2019, @09:37PM (2 children)
I've done similar courses with very realistic injuries. But that's as an adult voluntarily deploying (as a civilian) into a warzone.
Are U.S. schools warzones?
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday April 02 2019, @10:45AM
> adult voluntarily
Yeah, that makes all the difference between a pleasure and a horrible crime in many life situations.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:02PM
Not sure. Does being occupied by armed uniformed troops qualify? I'm about tired of hearing of "school resources officers" doing this, that, or something else. In another era, we had teachers dealing with all of our problems. If it was too big a problem for your average teacher, the coach/phys ed/health teacher was called in.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Dale on Monday April 01 2019, @01:09PM (12 children)
I found it kind of sad that the schools around here do lock down drills including pre-K and K students. Trying to explain what is going on to my daughters at that age is just pitiful. I get the point behind it, but the encroachment into the illusion of childhood seems to land too early.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Monday April 01 2019, @01:15PM (4 children)
But if you don't desensitise them when they're young, how are they going to grow up emotionally isolated and numbed to the horrors of violence? If you're not careful you could collapse the whole school-shooter economy.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by khallow on Monday April 01 2019, @01:36PM (2 children)
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 01 2019, @02:09PM (1 child)
Good point. Never thought of it quite like that. Lemme put a tangent on the spin, or a spin on that tangent.
My earliest memories start about 1959 or 1960. Television at that time had about 4 to 6 hours of WW2 combat related shows. Air crews, infantry squads, destroyer crews, and always, the Krauts and the Japs were bad guys. As kids, we grew up thinking in those terms - Krauts and Japs. And, we wanted to grow up to fight them.
Today, maybe the kids aren't as intensely indoctrinated as we were, but the indoctrination is there. They are taught that "People go into schools and shoot them up" and "this is what you should do when it happens". That odd ball who doesn't accept the school's brainwashing, is saying to himself, "Yeah, and when I get my own guns, that's how I'll do it." Meanwhile, the media is glamorizing every single incident. That little oddball is thinking, "AWESOME!" The freak of the hour has his photo on television, all the internet sites, including social media. Just like the standard trolls on any site, all the potential trolls are watching him, "Yeah, that's how you do it!" So, for a decade or more, the schools and the media are cooperating with each other, making it look like a game, a competition. And, all those little oddballs are just waiting for the proper trigger to set them off.
And, most of that in the name of ratings. It's obvious to everyone that the media is after ratings, right? But those school administrators are chasing their own kind of ratings. They're scored on a number of metrics, and emergency preparedness is one of those metrics. Setting off an alarm, and terrorizing many, or most, of the students in the school is dramatic as all hell. Add some media fools to record it, and the ratings skyrocket. "Think of the children!"
Maybe they DO need to "think of the children" instead of those ratings.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:12AM
Indeed. I think you're right that this is for appearance sake. Doing their real job is risky and hard work. Shoving their students through play acting, and the local two minute hate, is relatively low risk unless someone gets hurt.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 01 2019, @04:12PM
This is why you get them playing violent video games early.
Hmmm . . . maybe there needs to be a new school shooter genre?
Why is it so difficult to break a heroine addiction?
(Score: 5, Informative) by ledow on Monday April 01 2019, @01:50PM (2 children)
I work in a school.
Let me tell you how we approach this.
It's not "lockdown". It's "take shelter".
What are you taking shelter from? Maybe a storm moved in. Maybe a gas leak in the nearby houses. Maybe a dust-storm blowing in off the desert. Maybe someone dropped a tin of paint out in the school yard and we don't want you all stepping in it. Maybe a dog got loose and we don't want it to bite anyone. Or, yes, maybe there's a gunman (if the kids mention the possibility). Hell, one of our possibilities is "it's too hot outside, and we don't want you all passing out / getting sunstroke / getting burned".
The problem is not that you have a drill for an essential process - this is just the opposite of a fire drill, where it's safer to STAY PUT than try to go outside. The problem is what you drill against. You drill because you don't want the unforeseen to catch you out. Drilling solely against "there's a mass-murderer outside" is stupid. You drill against "There's something outside that's not good, and it's safer to be inside".
Now, we include things like getting out of sight, hiding under tables, etc. but... for instance... so do schools in earthquake countries... they are routinely taught to stay away from windows and get underneath furniture. There we go, it's an earthquake drill too! You never know!
What these schools are doing is breeding fear when there are obvious, perfectly viable, and well-tested alternative explanations that cover all kinds of situations. So when you DO drill, people aren't thinking "Maybe there is a shooter" but instead "Oh, someone probably just dropped a stinkbomb outside again".
Schools doing anything like including weapons (fake or not) and blood really need to have all the kids pulled out in protest. It's disgusting, fear-mongering and entirely unnecessary. When we say "Shelter" the older kids know the possibilities, just from the news. But the littler ones aren't the subjected to something that, in a video game, they'd be too young to see.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 01 2019, @02:13PM
Sensible. Don't forget tornadoes - you also seek an interior room, and hide under something substantial. I like your approach.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by bussdriver on Monday April 01 2019, @02:42PM
I have relatives in the system. The stories I heard were not as extreme but teachers were not consulted (being experts in child learning, but not policy/procedure admins... who saw it solely lying within their domain) before something stupid happened; afterwards, they'd speak up and give feedback and some changes made. The school therapist being only 1 person if they even had such a person would tend to either be too quiet (no power) or just ignored.
The people doing such extreme things are under the influence of their own nightmares and their righteous efforts; you are not as dedicated or concerned as they are. Reining people in that state is difficult especially when they are in positions of power.
What such situations show is a failure of the system to curb such errors by the people in charge. Either those people are horrible, or more likely, the system doesn't provide a means to counter-balance. Given that FEAR is related you also have a strong element of mob psychology at play as well.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:52PM
don't send your kids to be raised/brainwashed by the state.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday April 01 2019, @11:00PM
That must be a weird way to live your life. It is almost like you're living in a war zone.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Monday April 01 2019, @11:51PM
In my school days it was duck and cover. Totally pointless exercise from the perspective of surviving a nuclear blast. But that is not why they did it. They wanted to assuage the fears of parents. The bureaucrats could not have planned it to instill fear and control in generations of school kids because nothing like it had been done before, and because bureaucrats are not prescient in the least.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @01:25PM
the school explained it to them I found out. My daughter said it is for when bad guys come in to kill them all.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Alfred on Monday April 01 2019, @01:29PM (6 children)
If protecting the kids was a real objective the teachers would be trained in firearm use or at least in how to use the fire extinguisher in combat.
If a district was willing to invest money money they could put in some cameras and mag locks on the doors.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by RamiK on Monday April 01 2019, @01:34PM (5 children)
Like in the cold war, they're there to indoctrinate the kids to know, fear and hate the enemy. Presently, their own peers.
How else would you incite the middle and lower classes to fight each-other instead of the upper class now that racism is getting a bad rap?
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(Score: 1, Troll) by Alfred on Monday April 01 2019, @03:45PM (4 children)
Oh jeez, this is just a step in weakening us before they make us slaves.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:14PM (3 children)
Or it is teaching them to think that they need to have guns because of those random killers and gun control laws are bad.
The firearms market is much more lucrative when people think their guns will be taken away. Every time there is talk of a weapons ban, ammo and gun sales shoot up to the point of shortages. If the kiddos are indoctrinated to believe they need to have a gun at all times to be safe and that ownership is under constant threat by those "evil" lefties...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 02 2019, @03:34AM (2 children)
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday April 02 2019, @10:57AM (1 child)
> Eventually, you'll get so much ammo and guns, that you'll have enough or in the really bad cases, you run out of money.
Ahh... see, you can never get enough *protection*, it's all about defense! Arm themselves, stuff the house but what about the all-out zombie apocalypse stash in the forest? So it's really only the latter option to put these individuals to a halt -- cannot afford.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 02 2019, @12:58PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:33PM
Omfg is there nothing these people will not use as a weapon?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @01:34PM (2 children)
Who ever knew.. the best terrorists are something-something!
heh. You can't even make this shit up. I can't even come up with a joke about it. This is asinine.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Monday April 01 2019, @01:36PM
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Immerman on Monday April 01 2019, @03:54PM
>The best terrorists are...
the ones who keep the populace in easily-controlled fear?
(Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Monday April 01 2019, @02:27PM (6 children)
The incident this article referred to went like this: Law enforcement officers called 4 teachers into a room. They ordered the teachers to crouch and turn around. They then shot them with injury-causing pellets at point-blank range. Then, they told the teachers that they had to call the next group in without informing them what was going to happen next. Many teachers will be dealing with the after-effects of these injuries for the rest of their lives, because blunt-force trauma can cause long-term problems depending on where you're hit, and it's not like all the teachers were young and healthy to begin with.
No kids were present, as far as I can tell from the reports.
The only potential value I can see in this kind of training is if they were hoping to get the teachers to assault the law enforcement officers rather than follow orders. Otherwise, it sure looks like the purpose of this "drill" was to hurt teachers because they're sadists who wanted to hurt teachers. And in either event, it seems to have had jack squat to do with protecting kids from madmen with guns ... unless you're referring to the law enforcement officers of course.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 2, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @03:36PM (2 children)
I am sure that if a teacher had fought back and injured an officer, they would have been beat to death or shot with an actual gun instead.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by Alfred on Monday April 01 2019, @03:48PM
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @09:24PM
Or arrested. They might try to arrest you by yelling at the next group to "Save yourselves! Multiple active shooters!", but those charges would probably be dropped.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @09:22PM (1 child)
One guy who trains people for this kind of stuff [youtube.com] recommends assaulting the shooter.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:17PM
Priceless. That was worth watching just for that one line.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 01 2019, @11:54PM
Yes, I read about this "drill" too. It has resulted in a proposal by the teachers that there be a bill passed in Indiana prohibiting the firing of projectiles at teachers in a safety drill or training.
Is this really where we're at now in society? That you have to legislate the idea that we shouldn't fire projectiles (of any sort) at teachers... Then again, we used to have amendments that said the government couldn't search you, until nudie scans became necessary to board a plane. We used to have amendments that said you couldn't monitor private communications without a warrant... Until the NSA was just given blanket authority to do it all the time on whomever.
So yeah, I guess maybe today we have to actually instruct a law enforcement officer that -- you know, you might not want to fire (even plastic) projectiles at defenseless other people for no apparent reason other than to exercise your ego. Another article I read said that some insurance company had paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in related injuries for other "trainings" of this sort that have happened in recent years. Really?? What the hell is wrong with people?
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday April 01 2019, @02:38PM (7 children)
These drills do little to prepare people for evading an armed murder with the intent to kill. Locks can be shot off, even if used effectively, not as easily as in movies, but the kind of equipment school shooters have been packing is more than up to task. There's no material evidence they'll save a single life.
On the other hand, I feel like the drills very much could cultivate a young killer-to-be, whose outlook might already be damaged enough to take sadistic glee in watching their fellow students cower.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @03:16PM (2 children)
Don't forget it also serves to inculcate a hate for the 2A.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday April 01 2019, @03:18PM
I'm not seeing the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @06:46PM
What about the 2B, and classrooms 3A, 3B, and 3C? What's so special about 2A, other than the cops shooting the teachers in the haid with pellet guns?
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday April 01 2019, @04:06PM (1 child)
I could imagine the drills making a difference.
Yes, the bad guy can shoot the lock off. That doesn't him into the room if someone or something is trying to stop him from opening it. Also, shooting the lock or kicking down the door takes time, and delaying the bad guy means that the cops have more time to show up with enough firepower to do something useful, plus the longer it takes for the bad guy to kill each kid, the fewer kids will be dead. Sure, it won't stop anybody for long, but 20 seconds here, 10 seconds there, 15 seconds somewhere else, and that can start adding up. Plus, getting kids and teachers well-hidden behind barriers reduces the chance that SWAT will hit them trying to take down the bad guy.
It's not perfect. There will probably still be people killed, and it's entirely possible some of those people will be schoolchildren. That's because when you've gotten to the point of "madman with AR-15 determined to kill a many kids as possible before being taken out", a lot of things have gone very very wrong. As a general rule, it's nigh-impossible to stop someone who is at the point of wanting to kill a bunch of people before being killed themselves from doing just that, the only question is how many bodies will be on the deck when it's all over.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday April 01 2019, @05:12PM
It's possible, but color me about as willing to believe that as I am by the TSA confiscating a bottle of water.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:29PM
The point of locking the doors and sheltering in place is to slow the killing spree down and to reduce the likelihood of armed officers shooting innocent people in the process.
Of course, locks can be shot off and an intruder can break into a room, but doing so is a lot harder than just engaging in a turkey shoot of students and faculty fleeing for their lives.
Once you have an active shooter, there are no good solutions left.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 01 2019, @05:32PM
They can be, but generally in mass shooter situations like this they are not. The shooters get to a locked door and move on. You are actually far safer behind a locked door than out in the open. Although I'd agree these types of drills aren't all that useful.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday April 01 2019, @02:50PM
Duck and cover [youtube.com] for the next generation of kids. In my day it was tornado and general disaster drills. The only thing was nuclear war did not occur during the duck and cover period, while tornadoes/disasters and school shootings do occur.
The only degree of realism necessary in such drills is that which is required to ensure correct action should an event actually occur. Simulating panic and chaos is not at all helpful, and detrimental, because you want people to act as calmly and rationally as possible. Training in calm and rational conditions actually prepares one to respond calmly when things are not. Let people be just active and nonbored enough to remember what to do.
In high school our theatre arts department got to participate in a disaster drill and the makeup techies did their best to simulate injuries on us. (And we were given index cards for the people to actually read). But this was at a hospital facing professionals who see a lot worse every day. Our makeup wasn't bad but everyone knew it wasn't real. (Unlike kids). I asked the person who triaged me, "Am I going to die???" in the best dramatic voice I could manage. "I don't know," replied the triager, "depends on how annoying you get..." Character broken immediately. :)
I'll bet any such drills will cause those kids to remember this era the same was as Duck and Cover did.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by Alfred on Monday April 01 2019, @04:00PM (4 children)
(Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Monday April 01 2019, @06:36PM (1 child)
"Betteridge's Law of Headlines": When a ? appears at the end of a headline, the answer is usually "no".
The argument comes from the simple fact that if the answer were "Yes", they wouldn't have put in the "?", but rather made it into a definitive statement.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 2) by Alfred on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:34PM
(Score: 2, Touché) by Betteridge on Monday April 01 2019, @08:45PM
No....
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April Fool's! [It's opposite day for me!]
(Score: 2) by pipedwho on Monday April 01 2019, @09:49PM
The question isn’t a question of fact, but a question leading the result of an opinion.
(Score: 2) by pipedwho on Monday April 01 2019, @09:46PM (2 children)
What if a shooter pulls the fire alarm, waits a minute or two, then starts rampaging? Do we need a drill for that too?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @04:17AM (1 child)
That happened back in the '90s. There was a shooting in Kentucky and they pulled the fire alarm before shooting people exciting the building.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:23PM
You should be shot for exciting the building, you deviant!
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 02 2019, @02:17AM
Drill MDC. MDC likes it!