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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday July 07 2019, @02:49AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-a-place-to-cut-corners dept.

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Boeing falsified records for 787 jet sold to Air Canada. It developed a fuel leak

Boeing staff falsified records for a 787 jet built for Air Canada which developed a fuel leak ten months into service in 2015.

In a statement to CBC News, Boeing said it self-disclosed the problem to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration after Air Canada notified them of the fuel leak.

The records stated that manufacturing work had been completed when it had not.

Boeing said an audit concluded it was an isolated event and "immediate corrective action was initiated for both the Boeing mechanic and the Boeing inspector involved."

Boeing is under increasing scrutiny in the U.S. and abroad following two deadly crashes that claimed 346 lives and the global grounding of its 737 Max jets.

On the latest revelations related to falsifying records for the Air Canada jet, Mike Doiron of Moncton-based Doiron Aviation Consulting said: "Any falsification of those documents which could basically cover up a safety issue is a major problem."

In the aviation industry, these sorts of documents are crucial for ensuring the safety of aircraft and the passengers onboard, he said.


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Boeing Will Temporarily Stop Making its 737 Max Jetliners 57 comments

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/17/788775642/boeing-will-temporarily-stop-making-its-737-max-jetliners

Production will stop in January. The jets were grounded after two crashes that killed nearly 350 people. Despite being grounded, Boeing continued cranking the planes out at its factory near Seattle.

(The interview had more good information, but at time of submission, the transcript wasn't available. There may be better articles out there.)

There are. Here's one:

Boeing will suspend 737 Max production in January at CNBC:

Boeing is planning to suspend production of its beleaguered 737 Max planes next month, the company said Monday, a drastic step after the Federal Aviation Administration said its review of the planes would continue into next year, dashing the manufacturer's forecast.

Boeing's decision to temporarily shut down production, made after months of a cash-draining global grounding of its best-selling aircraft, worsens one of the most severe crises in the history of the century-old manufacturer. It is ramping up pressure on CEO Dennis Muilenburg, whom the board stripped of his chairmanship in October as the crisis wore on.

The measure is set to ripple through the aerospace giant's supply chain and broader economy. It also presents further problems for airlines, which have lost hundreds of millions of dollars and canceled thousands of flights without the fuel-efficient planes in their fleets.

Boeing said it does not plan to lay off or furlough workers at the Renton, Washington, factory where the 737 Max is produced during the production pause. Some of the 12,000 workers there will be temporarily reassigned.

Previously:


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Promised Production Halt of Boeing 737 Max 8 Begins; Follow-On Effects Already Under Way 7 comments

Boeing's promised 737 Max production halt begins:

The airline manufacturer had announced last month it would stop making the troubled craft at least until it was no longer grounded, but hadn't set a date. However the line has officially stopped producing planes while Boeing officials wait for regulators to give it the OK to fly again.

[...] The latest update estimated the grounding would last through at least mid-2020, Boeing said in a statement Tuesday.

Boeing will reassign 3,000 workers after 737 MAX production halt

Boeing Co said it will reassign 3,000 workers to other jobs as it halts production of the grounded best-selling 737 MAX jet in mid-January.

The announcement came after American Airlines Group Inc and Mexico's Aeromexico disclosed they were the latest carriers to reach settlements with Boeing over losses resulting from the grounding of the 737 MAX aircraft.

Neither airline disclosed the compensation. A number of airlines have struck confidential settlements with Boeing in recent weeks. Boeing said it does not comment on discussions with airlines.

Boeing's biggest supplier lays off 2,800 workers because of 737 Max production suspension:

Spirit AeroSystems (SPR), which makes fuselages for the Max as well as other items for Boeing, announced Friday that it is furloughing approximately 2,800 workers. Shares of the Wichita, Kansas-based company fell more than 1% in trading.
"The difficult decision announced today is a necessary step given the uncertainty related to both the timing for resuming 737 Max production and the overall production levels that can be expected following the production suspension," Spirit AeroSystems CEO Tom Gentile said in a press release.

Boeing wants to resume 737 Max production months before regulators sign off on the planes:

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @02:56AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @02:56AM (#864011)

    Europeans need jobs too and they don't cut corners.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:05AM (1 child)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:05AM (#864012)

      As a DO-178 certification QA engineer, I can tell you with 100% certainty that you're incredibly naive.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:58AM (#864020)

        Look at it! Look at her hair, you whore! Look at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:23AM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:23AM (#864040) Homepage

      Boeing is being dismantled because of their involvement in 9/11 (remote takeover backdoor of flight controls) and the fact they're run by Jews.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:55AM

        by Bot (3902) on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:55AM (#864046) Journal

        why they are not promoted instead?

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    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Bot on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:54AM

      by Bot (3902) on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:54AM (#864045) Journal

      spotted the guy who never bought fiat.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Sunday July 07 2019, @04:03AM (3 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Sunday July 07 2019, @04:03AM (#864021) Journal

    Time and time again, we hear of tragedies and disasters that can be traced back to needless recklessness. It's one thing to take chances with the unknown, or try daredevil stunts that will not hurt anyone else if things go wrong, but these are blatant engineering abuses. We know how to do these things safely, know how to figure the risks. There is no need to pull an Evel Knieval trial and error style leap of faith when we can calculate the limits and the odds. But if people deliberately refuse to accept the calculations, or even do them, then reality will maim and kill.

    Nevertheless, people falsified test results, minimized the dangers, downplayed the severity of potential problems, and ignored warnings. Pushed and pushed for a little more, and a little more again, squeezed just a little harder. Even when things are visibly straining, with material stretching and thinning, cracks appearing, popping sounds of stuff coming loose, and ripping and tearing, they don't want to hear it. Those backup generators and the seawall at Fukushima, the blowout preventers on the Deepwater Horizon, the Banqiao Dam, the Dhaka garment factory collapse ... most industrial accidents can be traced to reckless disregard and willful ignorance. Very few such accidents are caused by honest mistakes and ignorance.

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Sunday July 07 2019, @07:35AM (2 children)

      by krishnoid (1156) on Sunday July 07 2019, @07:35AM (#864053)

      You sure you want to group those together? The first couple are failures of individual components in complex systems, and the others sound like they were long-standing construction problems.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Sunday July 07 2019, @11:50AM (1 child)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Sunday July 07 2019, @11:50AM (#864084) Journal

        Yes. The people in charge tried to cheat on all those things. They knew the seawall was too low. There were plenty of warnings that the wall needed to be higher. It might have been topped anyway, but still, it should have been built higher. The diesel generators were also too low, and in the event the seawall wasn't high enough, were guaranteed to be flooded.

        AS we know, one of the most infamous disasters ever, the Titanic, could have been mitigated or averted in several ways. But many safety measures were ignored, thanks to the belief in the propaganda that the ship was unsinkable. Not enough lifeboats, charging through an iceberg field at night at full speed, and even such little things as the disregard of the missing binoculars for the crow's nest. Any one of those things could have made the difference. And then, the Californian shutting off its radio for the night and mistaking the distress flares as celebratory. It all adds up to one chance too many, a bridge too far.

        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday July 08 2019, @11:53PM

          by krishnoid (1156) on Monday July 08 2019, @11:53PM (#864766)

          The distinction I was making was between something that was a problem from the beginning and couldn't be remediated without complete replacement -- bad fundamental design, poor building material choice, quality, foundation [youtu.be], or building design/safety codes, vs. things that could be fixed after the fact like earthquake bracing or replaceable components -- things that anyone after the fact could fix.

          Both are problems, but the first one is literally building an undefusable time bomb, and the remainder is many people seeing problems over time and choosing not to fix them.

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:53AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday July 07 2019, @06:53AM (#864044) Journal

    It's strange to imply they were simply reckless, possibly they had something to lose. So, the managers that put workers in the condition of: spill the beans, get fired or cross fingers amd shut up, should be booted off too. But they won't as they followed the unwritten orders.

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    • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Sunday July 07 2019, @12:29PM

      by SpockLogic (2762) on Sunday July 07 2019, @12:29PM (#864092)

      I would be interested to know where this particular aircraft was built, Washington or South Carolina.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:12PM (#864123)

    Now move Boeing to China.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:38PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @03:38PM (#864136)

    -Air Canada will politely volunteer to pay for the repairs at no cost to Boeing
    -The Federal Government will reimburse Air Canada for 3x as much as the repairs cost.
    -Then the government will guarantee a loan to AC to purchase 100 more aircraft from Boeing at 200% list price, just to keep a small factory in Montreal that supplies ball bearings to Boeing open.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @07:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 07 2019, @07:17PM (#864192)

      >will guarantee a loan to AC

      Wow that's great! how do I get the money? here is my name and bank account detai... o wait

    • (Score: 2) by Codesmith on Monday July 08 2019, @12:47AM

      by Codesmith (5811) on Monday July 08 2019, @12:47AM (#864278)

      After how Boeing pissed in Bombardier's cornflakes with regards to the C series jet, I'm pretty sure that they won't be getting any christmas presents from Canada this year.

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