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posted by martyb on Wednesday September 04 2019, @03:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the Newest-Oldest dept.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-state-university-oldest-human-artifacts-idaho-north-america/

Ancient human artifacts found in a remote corner of Northwestern Idaho could deliver a major blow to a long-held theory that North America's first humans arrived by crossing a land bridge connected to Asia before moving south through the center of the continent.

The artifacts have been dated to as far back as 16,500 years ago, making them the oldest radiocarbon dated evidence of humans in North America, according to research published Thursday in the journal Science.

The artifacts are part of a trove discovered where Cooper's Ferry, Idaho, now stands. They are a thousand years older than what has previously been considered North America's most ancient known human remains. Together with dozens of other archaeological sites stretched across the continent, it helps decipher the story of when, and how, humans first arrived.

[...] The site at Cooper's Ferry doesn't fit with [the land Bering Strait land bridge] model. For one, the ice-free corridor probably didn't exist when humans first arrived at Cooper's Ferry — scientists think it didn't open up until about 15,000 years ago, which means these early people had to find a different route south. Other early sites challenged this theory, but none were this old, and the oldest were dated with a method considered less precise than radiocarbon dating.


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  • (Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday September 04 2019, @04:31PM (1 child)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Wednesday September 04 2019, @04:31PM (#889584)

    [...] The site at Cooper's Ferry doesn't fit with [the land Bering Strait land bridge] model.

    Well duh: there's a reason the place is called Cooper's FERRY...

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 04 2019, @08:01PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 04 2019, @08:01PM (#889670) Journal

      That may not necessarily be true for every isotope of Cooper.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday September 04 2019, @05:19PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday September 04 2019, @05:19PM (#889592) Journal

    That hypothesis has been a bit sketchy for a while now.

    The idea that the proto-natives were too stupid to figure out that logs can float things has always been a bit......euro-centric.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Wednesday September 04 2019, @06:53PM (5 children)

    by HiThere (866) on Wednesday September 04 2019, @06:53PM (#889642) Journal

    IIUC the current favorite theory is that there were multiple crossings at different periods. IIRC there were supposed to be three major crossings as considerably different time periods, and one of the early crossings is supposed to have gotten as far south as South America.

    However, do note that I said major. It is my, personal, opinion that there were nearly continual crossings by traders, and that the "major crossings" are related to different tribes dominating the Asian side of the Bering strait. Of course, part of the problem is that sea levels were lower, so those crossing by boat tended to camp in areas that are no underwater, so the evidence is largely missing.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04 2019, @10:45PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04 2019, @10:45PM (#889722)

      The science on this is settled. The Egyptians came over first and built pyramids in Central America. Then the Polynesians arrived in California and began the Democratic Party. Finally, boatloads of Africans colonized Alabsma, Georgia and Detroit.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 05 2019, @04:33AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 05 2019, @04:33AM (#889861)

        You forgot how them damn Mexicans are now coming over to steal our jobs!!!11

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 05 2019, @08:02AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 05 2019, @08:02AM (#889916)

          You forgot how them damn Mexicans are now coming over to steal our jobs!!!11

          We are so fucking lucky here in Europe to be so far from these Mexicans in South America. They would steal all our jobs. That's why UK is leaving EU because of job stealing by all them Africans.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Joe Desertrat on Thursday September 05 2019, @09:49PM (1 child)

      by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Thursday September 05 2019, @09:49PM (#890257)

      However, do note that I said major. It is my, personal, opinion that there were nearly continual crossings by traders, and that the "major crossings" are related to different tribes dominating the Asian side of the Bering strait. Of course, part of the problem is that sea levels were lower, so those crossing by boat tended to camp in areas that are now underwater, so the evidence is largely missing.

      Not to mention that the far north tends to be a difficult area for preserving archaeological sites anyway, so most land sites are well hidden or lost as well.

      One of the problems with most scientific models as they are presented in the popular media is that they always seem to be shown as distinct explanations as to what actually occurred. The reality of course is likely a part of what HiThere suggests, these were not singular events but regular patterns of usage by the peoples involved. Competing theories that seem to have evidence backing them are probably all partially correct in that they were all true at times to varying extents.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday September 06 2019, @08:39PM

        by HiThere (866) on Friday September 06 2019, @08:39PM (#890700) Journal

        Well, I also oversimplified. I said (paraphrase)"nearly continual crossings by traders", but this gives the wrong impression. People weren't as highly specialized then as now, and most of these traders probably only went as far as the next tribe or two. IIUC, however, at least in recent times items traded from over a distance (probably from hand to hand) gained mana (magical power). So there was incentive to "trade it on", because it was more valuable to someone further away than to you.

        OTOH, there is evidence for long distance trading dating to the old stone age, though not in that particular area. So why not expect it? Kayaks are at a high state of development, but even primitive kayaks would allow fishing and accompanying gossip at long distances. (Low bandwidth, of course. Kayaks don't encourage trading, but allow communication of, e.g., "Your cousin that married my brother has a new son.")

        So. What evidence of this would you expect to find? (Either supporting or denying it.) The only evidence that I have is that inter-tribal gossip about relatives is nearly universal among humans, and trading seems nearly as universal. So I think I'd require evidence to doubt that it occurred in this area. Of course, when one tribe leaves the area controlling the Bering strait, the folks on the other side don't gossip with the new comers about relatives...because they don't know of any shared relatives. After a few generations, though, new bonds are formed, albeit a bit slowly, and the gossip and trading pick up again.

        As for tool styles, those take a long time to learn, and are often held secret to maintain an advantage. So they've got a somewhat different rate and style of diffusion. I would suggest that women's tools have styles that diffuse more rapidly then men's, as exogamy is more likely to involve a woman moving to her husband's tribe than the reverse. Also that women's tools are more subject to decay, as they tend to be made of wood or woven fibers (with exceptions like bone needles).

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