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posted by janrinok on Monday September 16 2019, @03:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the better-late-than-never dept.

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow3997

The Eclipse Foundation has announced the release of the Jakarta EE 8, the first truly open-source, vendor-neutral version of Java Enterprise Edition.

Java being fully open-sourced has been a long, long time coming. While Sun open-sourced some of Java as long ago as November 2006, actually using Java in an open-source way was... troublesome. Just ask Google about Android and Java. But for Java in the enterprise things have changed.

On September 10, The Eclipse Foundation announced the full open-source release of the Jakarta EE 8 Full Platform and Web Profile specifications and related Technology Compatibility Kits (TCKs).

This comes after Oracle let go of most of Java Enterprise Edition's (JEE) intellectual property. Oracle retains Java's trademarks though -- thus Java EE naming convention has been changed to Jakarta EE. But for practical programming and production purposes Jakarta EE 8 is the next generation of enterprise Java.

Source: https://www.zdnet.com/article/java-finally-goes-all-in-on-open-source-with-the-release-of-jakarta-ee-8/


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @03:10AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @03:10AM (#894506)

    You catch the AIDS faster from the open sores.

    Nigger, Cock for Prez/Vice 2020

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by DannyB on Monday September 16 2019, @03:15PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 16 2019, @03:15PM (#894631) Journal

      Please try an electric eel instead for a superior experience.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @03:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @03:53AM (#894520)

    A horse designed by committee. Even IBM mainframe/cobol is more coherent in comparison.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Monday September 16 2019, @04:12AM (3 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 16 2019, @04:12AM (#894526) Journal

    Just ask Google about Android and Java

    Indeed, ask Google.

    The last of the brouhaha [wikipedia.org] shows that Google is not yet cleared of using the the Jakarta open-source clean room implementation of 170 lines of code and, thus, still faces damages up to $9B in damage.

    Oracle had come into ownership of the Java programming language including its patents, documentation and libraries of the language's application programming interfaces (APIs), through its acquisition of Sun Microsystems. Oracle made this information freely available to developers to use, but licensed its standard implementation on various platforms including mobile devices.

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    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @11:46AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16 2019, @11:46AM (#894569)

      There were licensing terms for using Java.
      Google choose not to use them and instead do half a ripoff, half a cleanroom implementation instead.
      They gambled the courts would take their side and lost.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday September 16 2019, @03:19PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 16 2019, @03:19PM (#894633) Journal

        IBM was the primary contributor and supporter of an open source licensed Java workalike called Apache Harmony.

        Google chose Apache Harmony to use in Android. For obvious licensing reasons.

        Oracle purchased Sun because Oracle imagined a big "Sue Google!" sign on Google's back.

        What exactly did Google do wrong here? They didn't use any of Sun / Oracle's code. So please explain.

        So later, just to pacify Oracle, Google switched Android to using pure 100% Open JDK Java -- Oracle's code, under the GPL + Classpath license. So did that make Oracle happy?

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by tangomargarine on Monday September 16 2019, @03:27PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Monday September 16 2019, @03:27PM (#894639)

        If Oracle actually manages to win that case in the end,* it's going to be the stupidest judicial tech decision ever.

        But hey, as long as they don't mind watching the world burn, why would Oracle care about making interfaces copyrightable generally destroying compatibility in the entire software development industry? It's all about the money.

        *We actually managed to get a judge who had the vaguest idea what he was talking about, so of course they appealed or sent back or whatever legalese'd the decision so they could have another go. Fuck Oracle.

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday September 16 2019, @03:21PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 16 2019, @03:21PM (#894634) Journal

    You have my sympathies.

    Why, oh why? I'll never know why it is used.

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