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posted by janrinok on Tuesday September 24 2019, @03:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the feed-me,-FEED-ME! dept.

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Black hole at the center of our galaxy appears to be getting hungrier

The enormous black hole at the center of our galaxy is having an unusually large meal of interstellar gas and dust, and researchers don't yet understand why.

"We have never seen anything like this in the 24 years we have studied the supermassive black hole," said Andrea Ghez, UCLA professor of physics and astronomy and a co-senior author of the research. "It's usually a pretty quiet, wimpy black hole on a diet. We don't know what is driving this big feast."

A paper about the study, led by the UCLA Galactic Center Group, which Ghez heads, is published today in Astrophysical Journal Letters.

The researchers analyzed more than 13,000 observations of the black hole from 133 nights since 2003. The images were gathered by the W.M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii and the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope in Chile. The team found that on May 13, the area just outside the black hole's "point of no return" (so called because once matter enters, it can never escape) was twice as bright as the next-brightest observation.

They also observed large changes on two other nights this year; all three of those changes were "unprecedented," Ghez said.

The brightness the scientists observed is caused by radiation from gas and dust falling into the black hole; the findings prompted them to ask whether this was an extraordinary singular event or a precursor to significantly increased activity.

"The big question is whether the black hole is entering a new phase—for example if the spigot has been turned up and the rate of gas falling down the black hole 'drain' has increased for an extended period—or whether we have just seen the fireworks from a few unusual blobs of gas falling in," said Mark Morris, UCLA professor of physics and astronomy and the paper's co-senior author.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @03:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @03:47PM (#898186)

    The enormous black ho at the center of town did what, exactly? Now you understand why they call her the Black and Decker Pecker Wrecker.

  • (Score: 2) by EJ on Tuesday September 24 2019, @04:56PM (4 children)

    by EJ (2452) on Tuesday September 24 2019, @04:56PM (#898207)

    The black hole is not doing anything at all that we know about. All of this stuff they're seeing happened 25000 years ago.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:00PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:00PM (#898229)

      And it's had 25000 years to grow, so...

      • (Score: 2) by EJ on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:12PM

        by EJ (2452) on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:12PM (#898234)

        We don't know that. Maybe it's bulimic. Maybe it ate so much 25000 years ago that 24975 years ago it puked it all out at nearly the speed of light, and we're all about to die.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:14PM (#898235)

        And it's had 25000 years to grow, so...

        So if the age of the galaxy and the universe is equal to a 50 year old's, then this is equivalent to about 1 hour.

        Time perception is different on large scale.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 24 2019, @11:08PM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday September 24 2019, @11:08PM (#898312) Homepage
      If, in response to an astronomer who said:
        "On [some date] [the object we are observing] did [some event]",
      you were to respond:
        "No! You mean 'we observed [that object] do [some event] on [some date]'!",
      you would get the response:
        "We know that, we all understand that, it's taken as read. Now grow up, child, your naive pedantry adds nothing to the scientific discourse.".
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:24PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:24PM (#898236)

    What was detected was several alien civilizations committing suicide by plunging into the black hole. This is why no aliens have contacted us -- they all realize that existence is useless, and decide to end the meaninglessness by diving into a black hole.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @07:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @07:05PM (#898247)

      Traveling to a black hole would be a waste of energy. They will die wherever they already are.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:26PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:26PM (#898237)

    How about some white holes, eh? Who's with me?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:55PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:55PM (#898244)

      You spelt it wrong with the "L"

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @07:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @07:05PM (#898246)

        What, we splitting holes here?!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Thexalon on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:02PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:02PM (#898283)

      obligatory Red Dwarf [youtube.com]

      A white hole would be vomiting, not eating.

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      "Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:57PM

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday September 24 2019, @10:57PM (#898308) Homepage
    If I dare be serious, then the reason this particularly interests me is that the various stars that orbit close to the black hole itself have a very short orbital period (in astronomical terms), so we will get to see them buzzing the tower, and suffering the consequences, many times over continued observation. S0-2 has a period of a decade and a half, so we have more than one complete circuit already, its orbit is almost completely known. That makes it a great test for General Relativity - if our extrapolations' error bars fail to contain it, there might be some rethinking to do (such as looking for another heavy object that's perturbing it). Talking about other heavy objects that we didn't know about until more recently, the somewhat dark S0–102's due for another closest approach next year, maybe that will give us more energy burps too. The one that interests me the most is S0-16, which has an extremely eccentric elliptical orbit, and from the charts I've seen, one that seems to pass closer to the event horizon than any other (known) star. Alas that only orbits every 3-4 decades, and did periapsis in 2000, so we will need to wait quite a while before we see (with new improved telescopes) how much it sheds on its next fly-by. There are as yet unnamed (according to the Sag-A* wiki page) other stars that are also on less well defined orbits that might also have very close periapses, time will tell. Exciting times - on the assumption world governments keep funding science, which is something I'm thankful for every year it continues.
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    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Wednesday September 25 2019, @11:39AM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Wednesday September 25 2019, @11:39AM (#898446) Journal

    So, they're saying a supermassive blackhole isn't stable or predictable? whoa dude

    A galaxy is like a nyquist plot, over time it will either a. stabilize, b. collapse, c. infinitely expand.

    We have to really be rooting for b. otherwise this will turn into a real neverending story sequel shitshow lol.

  • (Score: -1) by MyOpinion on Wednesday September 25 2019, @11:50AM (1 child)

    by MyOpinion (6561) on Wednesday September 25 2019, @11:50AM (#898451) Homepage Journal

    Is it even possible?

    Or do I just have to take the word of men who claim "walked (and played golf) on the Moon", played around with "rovers on Mars", and "landed probes on Titan"?

    That's too many decades, too many stories, too much CGI, and no results.

    Where is the Lunar hotel already?

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    Truth is like a Lion: you need not defend it; let it loose, and it defends itself. https://discord.gg/3FScNwc
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 25 2019, @12:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 25 2019, @12:08PM (#898457)

      You need to take a trip into the nearest black hole. Make sure to let us know what it's like.

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