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posted by martyb on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the game-on! dept.

ArsTechnica:

Microsoft has finally revealed a $499 "estimated retail price" for its top-end Xbox Series X. That system will launch alongside the $299 Xbox Series S on November 10, the company confirmed this morning.

Microsoft is also expanding its existing "All Access" subscription program to give customers access to its next-gen hardware with no upfront cost. Qualifying players who commit to a $25/month subscription for the Series S (or $35/month for the Series X) for two years get the console as well as access to all the games available on Xbox Game Pass Ultimate (and its attendant xCloud streaming options).

Are consoles like the Xbox still the cutting edge of gaming, or are VR platforms like Oculus?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:44PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:44PM (#1048556)

    This whole don't own just rent trend. Are gamers going to subscribe to that?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by ikanreed on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:48PM (1 child)

      by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:48PM (#1048559) Journal

      Oh god yes, when we talk about fools with whom money is easily parted, gamers make the absolute top of that list.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Booga1 on Thursday September 10 2020, @05:54AM

        by Booga1 (6333) on Thursday September 10 2020, @05:54AM (#1048827)

        Yep. They'll do it. On another forum I saw someone say something like, "Why would you buy the Xbox Series S? It doesn't even have a disc drive." and it was modded down to about -40.

        Replies were along the lines of:
            "I've got an Xbox One and I can't think of the last time I bought a physical disk."
            "My computer hasn't had a disk drive in years."
            "So many games require you to play online and I'm already paying for that. What's a few dollars more per month?"
            "Without disks, you won't own anything."
            "I don't care. I'm going to pirate everything."
            "Disks don't hold enough data anyway."

        Comments were easily 5 to 1 in favor of not caring about owning anything ever again.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:08PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:08PM (#1048564)

      If you hate Microsoft, this is a terrible deal. If you hate consoles, it's a terrible deal. If you don't care about multiplayer gaming, it's a terrible deal. If you hate DRM, it's a terrible deal.

      But if you don't care about any of those things - and hundreds of millions of consumers do not - it's a win: a standalone Xbox Series X is $500. 2 years of Xbox Gold, which you need for multiplayer, is $100. 4 AAA games is at least $240. In two years, you've spent at least $840. With $35/month across 2 years, you spend the same $840 and have access to 100 games in Xbox Games Pass. Unless maybe the Xbox Games Pass selection sucks, I don't care enough to check.

      I hate Microsoft, I'm not interested. But I don't think this is a bad deal for consumers.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:45PM (7 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday September 09 2020, @07:45PM (#1048557) Journal

    Can we please change the first link, it's a redirect site that ublock deems malicious, can we swap in the full URL instead?

    The unshortened url is this:
    https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x [xbox.com]

    • (Score: 2) by leon_the_cat on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:18PM (5 children)

      by leon_the_cat (10052) on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:18PM (#1048568) Journal

      A lot of the redirect link shortening sites are blocked by ublock I have not seen any doing anything malicious (other than redirecting).

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:20PM (1 child)

        by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:20PM (#1048570) Journal

        This one reportedly installs an evercookie, fwiw

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:44PM (#1048577)

        You can see that they aren't logging your traffic? Wow!

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:09AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:09AM (#1048696)

        URL shorteners are inherently harmful, in a miniscule way. By their very nature they obscure the target location, so the only way to find out where you're going to end up is to actually go there.

        It's not that they generally do do anything bad, it's that there is no way to prove that they aren't going to do anything bad (such as redirecting to a doppelganger phishing site) in advance.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:59AM (#1048773)

          Generally this is true. Most of them are OK, but there's no way to know. Some URL shortener sites allow "dynamic" short URLs and destination URLs can be changed at any point.
          Another thing that has happened in the past is when a URL shortener company goes out of business. The domain and URLs become 100% untrustworthy as the new owner can do anything they want.
          Because of all the real and potential problems, some sites have taken to forbidding them: [stackoverflow.com]

          These links are getting to be a real pain to deal with on Stack Overflow, and I'm tired of having to check them and ending up on a porn site on my work computer.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:52PM

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday September 09 2020, @08:52PM (#1048583) Journal

      Done. Lazy Ars.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday September 09 2020, @09:10PM

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Wednesday September 09 2020, @09:10PM (#1048592)

    one xboxx almost the same price as two xboxs

    are you gay?
    are you a nigger?
    do you support blm?
    put your stinky fist in the air.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday September 11 2020, @01:58AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Friday September 11 2020, @01:58AM (#1049308) Journal
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