from the Cod-liver-oil...or-Covid?...Is-there-another-choice? dept.
Preliminary data suggest that cod liver oil users have lower risk of getting COVID-19:
Norwegian researchers are about to embark on one of the country's largest clinical trials[...]
"Preliminary data from our ongoing COVID-19 study, Koronastudien, suggest that cod liver oil users may have a reduced risk of COVID-19 and a lower risk of severe disease outcomes if they are infected", says Arne Søraas, in the press release. He is a physician-scientist at the Department of Microbiology at Oslo University Hospital.
[...] Cod liver oil is rich in vitamin D and omega-3 fatty acids. Cod liver oil is among the few natural sources of vitamin D in the nordic diet, writes Store Norske Leksikon.
[...] To answer this question, a randomized study needs to be done.
[...] Half of them will take a daily dose of cod liver oil, the other half will be given a placebo product. As it goes in randomized studies, participants will not know if they are taking the real or the fake stuff.
The study is partially funded by the company Orkla, who produce the brand Möllers Cod Liver Oil. This is also the oil which will be used in the project.
"We were contacted by Oslo University Hospital and saw this as an opportunity to contribute to the fight against the pandemic while also gaining new insight into the positive effects of taking cod liver oil", Gunnhild Aarstad says in the press release. She is head of Research, Development and Innovation at Orkla Health.
The study will run from November until April next year and will also look for the effect of cod liver oil on other viral diseases such as seasonal flu and ordinary colds.
For more information, see the Oslo University Hospital press release.
(Score: 2, Touché) by aliks on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:54AM (7 children)
The chocolate marketing board has revealed that 1kg of chocolate products consumed per day has a significant chance of reducing COVID risk.
The goose fat producers association has published a study into the COVID protection benefits of using goose fat instead of butter
and the diesel refining international committee has definitively placed inhalation of diesel particulate matter as the biggest single factor in reducing COVID deaths although comentators have suggested this is because you die of the diesel fumes first.....
To err is human, to comment divine
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @11:57AM (1 child)
You left out snake oil. Such an oversight is unforgivable.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday November 16 2020, @12:14PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @04:18PM (2 children)
The vaccine industry announced that everyone on earth should get their vaccine, and you thought that was more than fine. In fact you go into a rabid rage at the thought of anyone disagreeing and want their lives destroyed.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @05:02PM (1 child)
The problem is that people are literally losing consciousness. This happened before about 10,000 years ago and lead to a ~5,000 year long dark age. All major religions began as attempts to use symbolism from an early age to encourage consciousness.
Basically the propaganda and gaslighting (dont wear a mask, wait everyone should be forced to wear a mask, etc) is making people revert to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology) [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:15PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:47PM
Statistics also prove that owning a gold toilet makes you 100% likely to get COVID.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @06:13AM
And for an actual headline 'After Pfizer announces their their vaccine is (self measured) 90% effective, CEO cashes out vast majority of his stock.' Albert Bourla for your searching convenience.
Does that sound like the actions of somebody who thinks his company has created a miracle vaccine that's about to 'save the world', which would entail potentially trillions of dollars in profit longterm? There will be plausible deniability no doubt. For instance their CEO scheduled the stock dump on August 19th. But that, in many ways, just makes things look even worse, unless you're a fan in million dollar coincidences.
Vaccines can obviously do good, but they're also not just a magic bullet that can just be magically created in exchange for enough money. And by contrast many of the greatest discoveries in health history have been pretty weird stuff. Scurvy in the age of sail was killing people by the millions. Many transatlantic journeys expected to lose around 50% of their crew to it. For instance you probably didn't learn in history class that during Magellan's circumnavigation, only 18 of Magellan's original 270 man crew survived, with scurvy being one of the main killers. How "funny" is it, that it's something easily prevented by eating fresh fruit or meat?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:55AM (5 children)
I haven't caught the covid bug yet!!
Thank God or somebody that they distribute the stuff inside a gel capsule these days. I remember Mother and Grandmother administering that nasty stuff by the teaspoon. NASSSSSTY! It took the threat of a beating "when your father gets home" to make us swallow it.
Reminiscing aside, cod liver oil always was good for just about everything. Better than snake oil at least!
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:22AM (1 child)
At least it wasn't radioactive.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday November 16 2020, @04:18PM
I wouldn't bet on that.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by deadstick on Sunday November 15 2020, @02:17PM (1 child)
Interesting...I loved it as a kid, couldn't wait for my daily spoonful. But then I think lobster tastes like styrofoam impregnated with fish stink, so maybe my DNA has a kink in it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:48PM
I think it reveals something about your sexual proclivities. Loves lapping up fish oil, hates sucking on lobster.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @06:15AM
I have a habit of chewing on the tablet before swallowing it for some reason. And a couple of times I've been down a bit too hard. Yeah, drinking that stuff straight would be less than pleasant.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:04AM (6 children)
Vegetable juice, plenty of green leafy vegetables, kale smoothies, vitamin D almond milk, mushrooms, cod liver oil, and garlic.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:07AM (3 children)
All you need is vitamin C, vitamin O, and vitamin D. COD cures COVID.
(Score: 3, Touché) by mhajicek on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:24AM (1 child)
Call of Duty?
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @02:51AM
This would be funny to see in the kill feed:
Vitamin-D [headshot icon] COVID-19
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:50PM
Almost right.
Vitamin C, vitamin O, Cabbage and Kale. Get that in you every day and you'll make somebody a little bit happier.
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Sunday November 15 2020, @10:19AM (1 child)
Away, devil! Be banned in the realms of hell you spawned from.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @02:16AM
Only a bold fascist movement based on healthy vegan diets and daily yoga exercise can save us. The hated enemy is eating healthier every day. We cannot allow ourselves to be conquered by a minority population because we avoided foods packed with essential vitamins and minerals!
(Score: 2) by julian on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:07AM (3 children)
I am somewhat intrigued by the hypothesis that a large amount of fair-skinned people have made themselves vitamin D deficient as a side-effect of skin cancer prevention. I always wear long clothing, hat, and sunscreen when I'm going to be outside. I don't get a lot of vitamin D from my diet since I largely avoid animal products. I haven't noticed any changes since I started supplementing vitamin D a few years ago, but I also haven't gotten sick. Cod liver oil shouldn't be necessary, any significant form of vitamin D should work. Steve Gibson from the Security Now podcast did an episode on the subject [grc.com].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:33PM
That's unlikely to be true, it doesn't take much sun exposure to get enough vitamin d and fair skinned people hit that point far quicker. The more likely issue ou'd just a lack of time to go out side.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Monday November 16 2020, @04:44AM (1 child)
Although vitamin D is probably the active component of cod liver oil with respect to fighting COVID-19, the polyunsaturated fatty acids and vitamin A may also have some beneficial effect. Most cod liver oil has so much vitamin A that long-term high dosage is a toxicity risk. Consumer beware!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @05:48AM
Carrots are rich in both vitamin A and fiber. Without fiber, your intestines would seize. It would be very painful. A whole wheat pasta with kale, carrots, mushrooms, and a vegan alfredo sauce would also be an excellent choice.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:09AM (7 children)
How is it remotely possible to make a placebo that could be mistaken for cod liver oil? And is not the Cod fishery depleated? Why are there so many misspellings in posts these days? And what happened to the vitamin C/zinc guy, and the TMB trying to lower the market price of carrion by suggesting tobacco prevents the COVID-19? SoylentNews is no longer the place for medical tech news. More superstition, and stock pumping. So sad.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday November 15 2020, @11:11PM (4 children)
A placebo might work for people who don't know what cod liver oil tastes like.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Monday November 16 2020, @04:51AM (3 children)
The taste of cod liver oil depends on the method of production and how well it's done. If well done, cod liver oil is almost flavorless.
There is a risk that the placebo may also have health benefits, making the determination of whether cod liver oil is beneficial more difficult.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @06:19AM (2 children)
I'm not sure if this is some sort of subtle joke train I'm missing here, but you don't take cod liver oil straight. It's generally inside of a plastic capsule. This also answers the placebo question.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday November 16 2020, @02:58PM
I think it is a stupid joke about cod liver oil tasting bad. And you are right: if it's in a capsule you likely don't taste it. That's probably why it is put into capsules.
I do remember cartoons with children being forced to take a spoonful of cod liver oil.
And posters showing happy codfish donating their liver oil to a cast pool of cod liver oil to be bottled and sent to children to keep them healthy. (That was in the 1950's) Even then, when I was a young child, I thought that was bizarre.
-- hendrik
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @07:18PM
Can still get is in liquid form here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @07:14PM (1 child)
Your arguments are empty.
Encapsulation. Olive oil with a drop of salmon or something for 'fishiness'.
Do you not suspect that reductionist Western science will try to make it in a vat, once ID'ed?
Google spellcheck is down. /s
I mean, there's evidence for zinc lozenges reducing severity and propensity to respiratory disease. So your disdain seems partially ungrounded there?
Vitamin C megadoses, or Zinc for Everything, are of course bogus.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @07:45PM
Nuts and seeds are packed with zinc. Pine nuts, sunflower seeds, and cashews are available in every corner convenience store. Swiss chard and spinach make good additions to many different salads, and two cups of oats contains enough zinc for a pregnant woman. We cannot win the womb war unless we ensure that mothers are getting enough zinc.
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Sunday November 15 2020, @09:11AM (9 children)
These must be the healthiest cigarettes. [youtube.com]
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday November 15 2020, @11:23AM (7 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @12:20PM
Or maybe he moved on to pushing up daisies.
(you might have to think about that one...)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @04:23PM (4 children)
Basically all major public health efforts of the last 50 years have made people more susceptible to that virus.
And smoking does protect you from covid, it's just been proven now and people are too retarded to care.
(Score: 4, Touché) by srobert on Sunday November 15 2020, @05:14PM (3 children)
"And smoking does protect you from covid"
That wouldn't be too surprising since smoking promotes social distancing.
(Score: 3, Funny) by srobert on Sunday November 15 2020, @05:18PM
I neglected to mention that persistent flatulence can also protect you from COVID.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @05:21PM (1 child)
Smoking protects you from high altitude sickness as well.
But yea,
Hide from the sun -> low vitamin D
Eat a low fat diet -> Obesity epidemic
Quit smoking -> More susceptible to covid infection
Vitamin C is a myth -> Failure to treat the vitamin c deficiency found in all illness/injury
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @01:17AM
Kale, broccoli, and shiitake smoothies are what these sickly weaklings need.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 16 2020, @06:27AM
Not sure who you're talking about, but in the last studies [thelancet.com] in the topic smoking is bizarrely enough one of the few things that does correlate strongly with a reduced death rate from covid. Correlation is not causation of course, but it is an interesting thing to note. Also interesting is that greater income inequality is also associated with a lower death rate. The reason I find that interesting is because had the opposite been true, there would have been a slew of media suggesting a causal link. But because it runs contrary to the narrative, people just shrug - as they should even had the opposite been true.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:19PM
Camels have become feminized over the years. They're so inert you might as well smoke air.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Sunday November 15 2020, @10:37AM (3 children)
According to this article https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/12/1995255/-Studies-surface-multiple-over-the-counter-items-that-may-have-an-effect-on-COVID-19 [dailykos.com] , some drugs that may help with COVID-19 are aspirin, melatonin, and fluvoxamine.
As for sunshine, is it the vitamin D, or the melatonin that really helps? Or both, and in conjunction?
Or could, you know, just live healthy. Eat healthy food, exercise, and don't smoke.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by dak664 on Sunday November 15 2020, @02:23PM (2 children)
D3 and melatonin are both immune regulators, at low dose enhancing response to the initial viral phase. If the immune system goes into overdrive, at higher dose they slow the clearing of suspect cells which reduces the oxidative buildup that leads to a cytokine storm.
Aspirin helps prevent the microclotting associated with late phase disease. In the early phase it may do more harm than good, by reducing fever.
Melatonin levels drop with age, and supplementation can trigger cramps and diarrhea. For prophylaxis start wiith miminal amounts, 0.3 mg a day, working up to maybe 2-4 mg/day. In hospital ICU the MATH+ protocol suggests 10mg a day.
https://covid.us.org/2020/06/24/the-math-protocol-for-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid-19/ [us.org]
Note the RECOVERY trial is specific to treating very sick people in hospital. Findings should not be used for early mitigation (although they certainly have been)!
Disclaimer: I am not a physician, but can read and evaluate scientific papers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:17PM
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8325381/ [nih.gov]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16179538/ [nih.gov]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @07:20PM
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16217125/ [nih.gov]
It's all anti-oxidants being depleted by oxidative stress. Forget the signalling.
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Sunday November 15 2020, @01:23PM
Maintaining social distancing is trivial when smelling like cod liver.
compiling...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by oumuamua on Sunday November 15 2020, @03:17PM
winter is coming, the air is getting dry
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200818/Study-shows-coronavirus-thrives-in-dry-air-with-low-humidity.aspx [news-medical.net]
In all the places I've visited, nobody has humidifiers out. And such an easy thing to do.
(Score: 2) by legont on Sunday November 15 2020, @03:38PM
Cod liver - canned - was considered a must for health every now and then during winter months in northern Europe of my childhood. It is also delicious.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 15 2020, @06:11PM
In Yakima, WA, sending livers C.O.D. (Cash On Demand) is one of the mafia's favorite ways of communicatin'.