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posted by janrinok on Tuesday June 29 2021, @05:10AM   Printer-friendly

2nd Circuit Upholds Non-Monetary Sanctions Against Copyright Troll Richard Liebowitz:

Here's a quick update on infamous copyright troll Richard Liebowitz. As you may recall, after tons of stories about Liebowitz's horrendously bad activities in and out of court, federal district court Judge Jesse Furman finally threw the book at Liebowitz in an incredible ruling that literally catalogued dozens upon dozens of examples of Liebowitz lying to his and other courts. Furman issued both monetary and non-monetary sanctions. Among the non-monetary sanctions was a requirement that Liebowitz file a copy of this particular benchslap in basically every court where he is representing a client.

Liebowitz whined about how unfair it all was, and appealed the ruling. On Friday, the 2nd Circuit Court of appeals upheld the non-monetary sanctions, saying it will release its opinion on the monetary sanctions shortly. The ruling is pretty short (unlike Furman's explanation of all of Liebowitz's wrongdoing), but the general conclusion is: all the evidence says that Furman was exactly right, so his sanctions order was fine.

There's also a fun footnote dismissing one of Liebowitz's classically silly arguments:

Appellants’ argument that the sanction would impose a substantial burden because deposit files are expensive to obtain is unpersuasive. As the district court noted, Liebowitz often settles cases “‘in the low thousands or tens of thousands of dollars’ . . . a far cry from the $200 to $1,200 cost of obtaining a deposit copy.”

Liebowitz made some other arguments as well, but the Court notes: "We have considered Appellants’ remaining arguments and find them to be without merit."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @06:01AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @06:01AM (#1150708)

    The link dest doesn't show on the story, but it sounds like a biased editorial.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Tuesday June 29 2021, @06:55AM (1 child)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @06:55AM (#1150717) Journal

      Janrinok rolls that way. I suggest Aa Canticle for Leibowitz [archive.org], in 15 parts. Makes you think, maybe.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:34AM (#1150761)
    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday June 29 2021, @07:35AM (1 child)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @07:35AM (#1150727) Journal

      All the links are working in Europe.

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @07:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @07:45AM (#1150730)

        All the links are working in Europe.

        That is exactly what the Nazis used to say!

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday June 29 2021, @03:47PM

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @03:47PM (#1150853) Journal

      It is news, of another of many battles in the Copyright War. At least this war is being fought in a civilized manner, in court, and not on the battlefield. Though I note some AC further down snarkily suggested that honest folk who agree that copyright is currently far too extreme, would like to see the death penalty for the copyright troll. Ah, no. In case anyone missed the snark, it is the copyright extremists who might wish for the death penalty. See the Star Trek episode I, Mudd.

      Perhaps you feel the entire war is bull, and should have long since been decided? Perhaps so, but it is a complex and tricky issue. I was confident that reform would prevail, but in more recent years, I've been having doubts. Steam, especially, has been successful at offering a fair bit of compensation in the form of more organized competition, in exchange for game players acceptance of their DRM. The War on Drugs is another such, and it seems we've finally turned a corner on that one and acknowledged that much of the opprobrium against drugs is manufactured lying propaganda. It did not come without a lot of pain and suffering, imprisoning for years people whose only "crime" was possession. I find copyright trolls to be on balance useful idiots, demonstrating through their actions just how broken copyright is, and how cruel enforcement can be. Though it could still be argued that the trolls are not representative, and so do not hurt the cause of the copyright extremists.

      That anyone at all was ever imprisoned over copyright violations is a stain upon the "justice" and legal system. This Leibowitz character lied and perjured himself, but is he going to prison for that? No! Yet those whose only "crime" was to run a bittorrent site and turn a blind eye to piracy however blatant and rampant, have been imprisoned.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by janrinok on Tuesday June 29 2021, @10:08AM (11 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @10:08AM (#1150750) Journal

    Copyright abuse happens far more frequently than we might immediately think. There are numerous examples of Youtube removing videos following erroneous DMCA claims against video that feature original music by the submitter. Similarly, we have often reported on here of copyright trolls making threats regarding the use of specific software, or demanding financial recompense from those using that software even though the trolls have not established a credible claim to the software copyright. Courts in the past have appeared to be reluctant to impose severe sanctions on those making false claims, although there are some exceptions.

    This is a case where the courts recognised that the copyright claim was invalid, and that the claimant repeatedly lied in an attempt to convince the courts otherwise. Perhaps there is beginning to be some recognition that false claims are serious and that courts should look more closely at specific cases. In particular, there appears in the past to have been little that could be done against false DMCA claims even though there is a formal procedure to be followed in such cases. Maybe, just maybe, the courts will recognise that such events are not trivial and when DMCA claims are made they should be supported with evidence rather than taken at face value. Repeat offenders should be treated appropriately.

    Just my €0.02.

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    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:49AM (9 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:49AM (#1150762) Journal

      Copyright abuse happens far more frequently than we might immediately think.

      It is my impression that the DMCA is abused more often on places like Youtube, than it is properly used. One of the more infamous cases https://consumerist.com/2015/07/06/8-years-later-universal-music-still-defending-takedown-of-dancing-baby-youtube-video/ [consumerist.com]

      Back in February 2007, a mother of a young boy posted a short, grainy video of her baby “dancing” around the kitchen while a Prince song plays, barely audibly, in the background. In the eight years since, the video has received nearly 1.3 million views on YouTube — not because it’s a particularly interesting clip, but due to its role in a copyright lawsuit that won’t go away.

      While most copyright claims on YouTube are now performed by automated systems that compare sounds and images with databases of copyrighted content, at the time the dancing baby video was uploaded, many record and movie companies had actual humans monitoring YouTube.

      Thus, in the summer of 2007 a real person at Universal Music saw the above video and was somehow able to discern above the distorted audio and screaming children that the song blaring in the background is “Let’s Go Crazy” from the 1984 Prince and The Revolution album Purple Rain.

      Additionally, that presumably living and breathing sentient being also came to the conclusion that this 29-second non-commercial home video was a valid case of copyright infringement and had it included on a list of Digital Millennium Copyright Act takedown notices sent to YouTube.

      The video was initially removed by YouTube and remained down for about six weeks, but after retaining an attorney, the mom was able to convince the Google-owned site that her video constituted a “fair use” of the song and it was reinstated.

      For many YouTubers, that would have been the end, but the mom decided in July 2007 to take a more lasting stand against frivolous copyright claims. She sued, with assistance from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the publisher in federal court [PDF], claiming Universal had violated the DMCA by failing to consider the video might constitute “fair use” before demanding a takedown.
      https://consumerist.com/consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/lenz_complaint_final.pdf [consumerist.com]

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Tuesday June 29 2021, @01:31PM (5 children)

        by HiThere (866) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @01:31PM (#1150781) Journal

        There's a problem with biased selection of evidence. We don't hear about many of the cases where the DMCA was properly applied.

        That said, I consider the DMCA a horrible law. Copyright should be for no more than 25 years including all renewals. And "fair use" should be defined in a way that allows one to know whether any particular use qualifies.

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:09PM (3 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:09PM (#1150798) Journal

          The people who can properly apply the DMCA have a mouthpiece. They could certainly point out a list of legitimate uses if there were any.

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          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 29 2021, @04:53PM (2 children)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @04:53PM (#1150879) Journal

            C'mon! I mean screw those guys, I agree with that.

            But pretending no legitimately copyrighted material has even been taken down on YouTube via DMCA? That's just a ridiculous strain on credibility right there. We all know you can still find whole TV episodes and stuff on there even with the DMCA....

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday June 29 2021, @05:01PM (1 child)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @05:01PM (#1150884) Journal

              I agree. There is a well oiled machine for taking stuff down from YouTube. Yet unlicensed copyrighted material still gets uploaded.

              If the DMCA were being used so successfully, I think the DMCA's supporters would be proud of it.

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              • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 29 2021, @05:26PM

                by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @05:26PM (#1150893) Journal

                If the DMCA were being used so successfully, I think the DMCA's supporters would be proud of it.

                I'm sure that at Imaginary Property Con 2021 there are supporters doing exactly that.

                We just don't hear about it because we don't like Imaginary Property Con 2021.

        • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:40PM

          by Oakenshield (4900) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:40PM (#1150812)

          There's a problem with biased selection of evidence. We don't hear about many of the cases where the DMCA was properly applied.

          That is piss poor consolation to those wrongly accused.

          That said, I consider the DMCA a horrible law. Copyright should be for no more than 25 years including all renewals. And "fair use" should be defined in a way that allows one to know whether any particular use qualifies.

          Agreed

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:45PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:45PM (#1150815)

        She had cut the video to 29 seconds (Wikipedia's standard fair use length) and had the EFF on speed dial when the video was taken down? Doesn't sound like a standard American zombie's act, sounds like a targeted lawsuit test.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday June 29 2021, @03:20PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 29 2021, @03:20PM (#1150839) Journal

          Even if your assessment were accurate and fair - which it is not - the "music" was nothing more than background noise in the video. I couldn't have identified the music, let alone enjoyed it. The focus of the video was a child exercising and exploring his world. If the lady had uploaded 15 minutes of video, with 5 complete songs playing in the background, I would still insist that it was fair use, since it was all but inaudible.

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        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @04:43PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @04:43PM (#1150878)

          29-30 seconds isn't a real fair use rule, just something people made up. Courts decide these matters on a case by case basis.

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:49PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday June 29 2021, @11:49PM (#1151087)

      As an example of attempted copyright abuse: I made an original recording, put it up on Youtube, and immediately got hit with a copyright challenge. It turned out that because what I had done was a parodic take on a popular song, and because the copyright-scanning companies get paid per violation found, they slapped a challenge on it. Youtube, to its credit, rejected the challenge after I pointed out what it was.

      If you want a wilder tale of attempted copyright abuse, Lindsay Ellis [youtube.com] has you covered: She got a DMCA takedown notice because someone was mad about her previous video about that someone's previous abuse of DMCA takedowns to end the careers of competing authors in their genre.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @12:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @12:42PM (#1150770)

    I told you bleeding-heart Democrats it was justified in certain cases.

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