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posted by mrpg on Tuesday August 01 2023, @05:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the arise-ye-russian-hackers dept.

Russia Sends Cybersecurity CEO to Jail for 14 Years:

The Russian government today handed down a treason conviction and 14-year prison sentence on Iyla Sachkov, the former founder and CEO of one of Russia's largest cybersecurity firms. Sachkov, 37, has been detained for nearly two years under charges that the Kremlin has kept classified and hidden from public view, and he joins a growing roster of former Russian cybercrime fighters who are now serving hard time for farcical treason convictions.

In 2003, Sachkov founded Group-IB, a cybersecurity and digital forensics company that quickly earned a reputation for exposing and disrupting large-scale cybercrime operations, including quite a few that were based in Russia and stealing from Russian companies and citizens.

In September 2021, the Kremlin issued treason charges against Sachkov, although it has refused to disclose any details about the allegations. Sachkov pleaded not guilty. After a three-week "trial" that was closed to the public, Sachkov was convicted of treason and sentenced to 14 years in prison. Prosecutors had asked for 18 years.

[...] In December 2021, Bloomberg reported that Sachkov was alleged to have given the United States information about the Russian "Fancy Bear" operation that sought to influence the 2016 U.S. election. Fancy Bear is one of several names (e.g., APT28) for an advanced Russian cyber espionage group that has been linked to the Russian military intelligence agency GRU.


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  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 01 2023, @05:51PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 01 2023, @05:51PM (#1318632) Journal

    Do they give time for good behaviour? Or, is good behaviour a bad thing in Russia? Maybe he can earn bad time, for bad conduct? Maybe I should re-read Tolkien for some hints.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:07PM (6 children)

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:07PM (#1318636)
      They do but it's not called good behaviour, it's called "sent to fight in Ukraine".
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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:40PM (5 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:40PM (#1318640) Journal

        +1 Troll

        It would also be a good argument, except that it's not exactly true. They were taking pretty much anyone who accepted, and then just dumped them on the front lines.

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        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:44PM (4 children)

          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:44PM (#1318641)
          I was aiming for sarcasm but if I was trolling it was not intentional. Did you mean only good prisoners... or they weren't recruiting prisoners..? I'm not sure where my mistake was.
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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:54PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:54PM (#1318644)

            I think "Free"man was complimenting your approach

            • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:56PM

              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:56PM (#1318646)
              oh... damn i ruined it didn't i. New rule, no Soylent before coffee.
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          • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:04PM (1 child)

            by Freeman (732) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:04PM (#1318649) Journal

            +1 Sarcasm, would have worked too. There's a fine line between trolling and sarcasm. Just because something is a Troll doesn't mean it can't also be +1 in my opinion.

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            • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday August 01 2023, @08:25PM

              by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 01 2023, @08:25PM (#1318655)
              Heh I read you, I had one of those mornings where my brain hadn't fully engaged yet. I haven't gotten smart enough yet to not post publicly when I'm in that state.
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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by looorg on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:58PM (1 child)

      by looorg (578) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:58PM (#1318648)

      14 years for "treason" is probably the good/lenient sentence. After all other Russians in some kind of similar position of power tend to clumsily fall out of windows or off their balconies if they don't have some kind of allergic reaction to their Novichok.

      Still a lot of happy little accidents can happen during 14 years in Siberia ...

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:06PM

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:06PM (#1318650) Journal

        I mean, 14 years in Siberia may just be the long version of the aforementioned alternatives. And/or they aren't worth/no reason for the short version.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bradley13 on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:03PM (20 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:03PM (#1318633) Homepage Journal

    Eventually someone is going to take him out. You can only jail so many critics, and only do many people can fall out of high windows. Eventually, one of the will be proactive, and Putin will have an "accident". Which is why he's so paranoid, of coyrse...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 01 2023, @06:39PM (#1318639)

      He's also getting old. Born too early to reach anti-aging.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by pTamok on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:23PM (4 children)

      by pTamok (3042) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @07:23PM (#1318651)

      It's reasonably well known that Putin has several body-doubles that are used for public events. If you were to decide to inhume him, you'd need privileged information to know it was him and not a double.

      It is entirely possible that any public appearance since the start of the 'special military operation' has been performed by a double. He might be many things, but he is not stupid, and he has both clever and cunning people to advise him, who have a great deal to lose if they, or he, fail.

      I suspect that one factor holding back a coup by the military is the lack of anyone sensible to replace Putin. As the West has found out, overthrowing a bad regime does not guarantee any improvement: look at Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, You need a plan for victory.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by loonycyborg on Tuesday August 01 2023, @08:02PM

        by loonycyborg (6905) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @08:02PM (#1318653)

        They weren't changing regimes in hope for an improvement. They just change regime in any country every decade or so if they can so those countries prove less of a competition in trade and also to slowly genocide people there. Yeltsin/Putin government was put there by the same western "overthrowers", only they failed to replace regime again later and instead got defeated by own strawman. Losers.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 01 2023, @09:04PM

        by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @09:04PM (#1318656)

        Why would the US want to take him out? Seriously, that guy is a gift. Not only has he ruined the Russian economy with this silly stunt in Ukraine, he turned the once-feared Russian army into a meme-factory and a laughing stock, he isolated Russia internationally, he pretty much ensured that their word is meaningless and contracts with them are considered worth less than the paper used to write them on. And as the cherry on top, he managed to drive Finland and Sweden, two countries that remained staunchly neutral for over 70 years, to run head over heels into joining NATO at any cost.

        At this point I'm not so sure anymore that he ain't a Western mole, to be honest...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:03PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:03PM (#1318779)

        I suspect that one factor holding back a coup by the military is the lack of anyone sensible to replace Putin.

        There's a reason for that: People who try to become pro-democracy opposition have a habit of winding up dead or in prison.

        Though among the possible leaders I could imagine for a much better Russia would be Garry Kasparov, who after semi-retiring from chess has been regularly involved in anti-Putin stuff (including being in some street protests/scuffles) and is still not in prison and alive.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 03 2023, @03:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 03 2023, @03:24PM (#1318954)

        As the West has found out, overthrowing a bad regime does not guarantee any improvement: look at Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, You need a plan for victory.

        What do you mean by found out? They've been doing it for longer than that. Their real goal is clearly not improvement in regimes. They're not trying to improve things in other countries.

        At least one of the goals is more excuses to transfer tax payer money to the military industrial complex.

        Maybe another goal in some cases was to remove people who try to undermine the petrodollar (Saddam, Gaddafi).

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by legont on Tuesday August 01 2023, @09:09PM (12 children)

      by legont (4179) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @09:09PM (#1318657)

      That would be a sad day as most of his buddies want to nuke the West right away. The former president and liberal darling Medvedev writes about it pretty much every day and has 1,110,000 followers. https://web.telegram.org/a/#-1572748754 [telegram.org]
      I guess sanctioning his children was not such a good idea after all.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Freeman on Tuesday August 01 2023, @10:01PM (9 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @10:01PM (#1318659) Journal

        When Putin looks like the sane guy, you know things are not going well.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Tuesday August 01 2023, @10:04PM (8 children)

          by Freeman (732) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @10:04PM (#1318660) Journal

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Medvedev [wikipedia.org] (I mean, the dude is absolutely unhinged.)

          In November 2022 Medvedev was quoted as saying on his Telegram app channel that the Ukrainian desire to recapture the territory it had lost to Russia in the annexations "is a threat to the existence of our state and of a dismemberment of today’s Russia", and "direct reason" to use Russia’s nuclear weapons; something the reporter termed "worrying language".[173] In the same month another journalist quoted him as saying "Russia, for obvious reasons, has not yet used its entire arsenal of possible weapons, equipment and munitions. And did not attack all possible enemy targets located in populated areas. And not only from our inherent human kindness. Everything has its time."[174][167]
          [...]
          On 14 January 2023, in response to Japanese PM Fumio Kishida making a joint statement with US President Joe Biden condemning a hypothetical Russian use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Medvedev accused Kishida of "shameful subservience" to the United States and suggested Kishida should ritually disembowel himself by seppuku to atone.[176][150]

          On 4 February 2023, he warned that "all of Ukraine that remains under Kyiv's rule will burn" after the United States promised to send longer-range rockets that would double Ukraine's strike range.[177]

          On 24 February 2023 Medvedev was thinking of unilaterally changing the borders of Poland.[178] On 14 April 2023 Medvedev threatened Poland with dissolution: "I do not know who will win or lose this war, but, considering Poland’s role as a NATO outpost in Europe, the country will most likely cease to exist, together with its stupid Prime Minister."[179]

          On 20 March 2023, in response to the ICC issuing a warrant for Putin, Medvedev posted on Telegram saying that "It is quite possible to imagine a hypersonic missile being fired from the North Sea from a Russian ship at The Hague courthouse".[180]

          On 8 April 2023, Medvedev said that Ukraine will "disappear" as "no one needs it". He claimed that neither Europe nor the United States, Africa, Latin America or Asia need Ukraine and called the current Ukrainian state "a misunderstanding generated by the collapse of the USSR."[181] He said the Kremlin does not need "parts of Russia named as Ukraine in 1991," it instead needs "Big Great Russia."[182]

          On 19 April 2023 Medvedev promised South Korea that Russia would arm North Korea with its weapons if South Korea armed Ukraine.[183]

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          • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Tuesday August 01 2023, @11:54PM (7 children)

            by inertnet (4071) on Tuesday August 01 2023, @11:54PM (#1318667) Journal

            Medvedev said that Ukraine will "disappear" as "no one needs it".

            it (the Kremlin) instead needs "Big Great Russia."

            That's pretty much exactly what Hitler said about Ukraine and Germany.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Opportunist on Wednesday August 02 2023, @08:21AM (6 children)

              by Opportunist (5545) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @08:21AM (#1318696)

              Why do you think the right is currently as much in love with Russia as the left was during the Soviet times?

              • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Wednesday August 02 2023, @09:17AM

                by inertnet (4071) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @09:17AM (#1318701) Journal

                Hard to tell. I think the COVID pandemic may be a factor, or rather the information war that raged as strong as the pandemic itself. Today people are divided in other ways apart from left or right and I'm convinced this is because (mis)information campaigns have gotten much stronger on all fronts.

                Over the years I've learned a lot of things, but my most important conclusion is that you can make people believe anything. There's a religion that preaches that the highest achievable thing to do is to blow yourself up and to take as many innocent people as possible with you. Putin has lost all my credibility since he denies involvement in shooting down MH17 in 2014. Not only the fact that it happened, but not being man enough to admit involvement and doing everything to keep the truth from getting out. But Russia is not the only nation that has misinformation campaigns, all major powers have them. Nowadays I take every claim with a bucket of salt.

              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:43PM (3 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:43PM (#1318722) Journal
                My take is three factors: Putin pays lip service to some conservative causes, wish-fulfillment fantasy, and funding some ideological thought leaders.
                • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Wednesday August 02 2023, @04:08PM (2 children)

                  by Opportunist (5545) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @04:08PM (#1318767)

                  Putin is doing what the far right would love to see done. You know, the whole "fight teh ghayz!" shit.

                  The funny bit is that it's the same idiots that usually cry about "muh freedumbs" whenever someone dares to "censor" them. Wonder how they'd react if "censoring" doesn't mean "getting your Facebook account temp suspended for hate speech" but "vanishing in a gulag and somewhere in the next 5-10 years they'll tell you you'll be there for 15 years, that will shut you up for good".

                  • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Thursday August 03 2023, @02:51AM (1 child)

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 03 2023, @02:51AM (#1318895) Journal
                    I guess getting thrown in a gulag is bad when liberals are the ones doing it to you? Also consider that Russia is probably sponsoring some conservative ideologues. It's the sort of thing that the KGB did in the decades before the fall of the USSR in an attempt to destabilize the West. Need I add that Putin is former KGB?
                    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Monday August 07 2023, @12:53PM

                      by Opportunist (5545) on Monday August 07 2023, @12:53PM (#1319462)

                      The fun bit is that they used to fund and buy the left, now they're doing the same with the right.

              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:13PM

                by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:13PM (#1318782)

                The American left was in love with the Soviets in the early decades of the USSR, especially when they were on our side killing more Nazis than anyone else. They became disillusioned with them as they learned more about what the Soviet leaders were actually like once the threat of the destruction of their country to fascists went away. And it's worth adding that Franklin Roosevelt was always wary of Stalin's intentions, as was Harry Truman.

                A good example of this was Black Panther leader Stokely Carmichael: He was interested enough in communism to tour Cuba, North Vietnam, China, and the USSR, and promptly returned and said "Communism is not an ideology suited for Black people, period. Socialism is not an ideology fitted for Black people, period, period." And he took a lot of black radicals with him.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:14AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:14AM (#1318670) Journal

        That would be a sad day as most of his buddies want to nuke the West right away.

        Only if most of Putin's buddies survive Putin's death. Publicly on record as wanting to start a nuclear war probably isn't conducive to one's survival in a post-Putin world.

        I guess sanctioning his children was not such a good idea after all.

        Targeting those kids with retaliatory nukes might work better?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by number11 on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:46AM

        by number11 (1170) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 02 2023, @05:46AM (#1318690)

        "Followers" in social media does not mean "people who approve". Some are bots, most just want to keep track of you. And I wouldn't call Putin a "liberal darling", unless you consider RFKJr a "liberal".

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by ShovelOperator1 on Wednesday August 02 2023, @08:47AM

      by ShovelOperator1 (18058) on Wednesday August 02 2023, @08:47AM (#1318698)

      What I can tell from living in Eastern Europe, but still in in the Union, EVERYONE is now pushing too hard.
      Czech Republic: Reverse engineering hardware protection is a life-endangering crime!
      Poland: Photography prohibition comes back, after being taken down when government found that everyone can have a camera in a wristwatch. List of places which should not be photographed? IT IS A SECRET.
      Germany: Now telling people about a movie you saw in the cinema is a crime!
      Just governments without people's countermeasures exploiting the crisis situation.
      And when the money comes into play, the only countermeasures which governments will understand are "violent". I put "violent" in a quotation marks, because we have been manipulated into a new, corporate definition of "violence": Whatever endangers profits is a "violence" now.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 02 2023, @10:00AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 02 2023, @10:00AM (#1318704)

    Sachkov was alleged to have given the United States information about the Russian "Fancy Bear" operation that sought to influence the 2016 U.S. election. Fancy Bear is one of several names (e.g., APT28) for an advanced Russian cyber espionage group that has been linked to the Russian military intelligence agency GRU.

    If he was warned against doing so or already knew that he shouldn't have done what he did then perhaps it was treason... As for 14 years - well it's Russia, be glad you didn't get polonium tea. If you're in Russia you should already know you're like working for something like the Russian Mob - just with nukes and more tanks. Never offend your Mafia Bosses. FWIW Snowden is regarded as a traitor by the US Gov too and I doubt he wants to find out how bad his sentence is going to be...

    That said are Trump supporters OK with the Russians allegedly helping Trump win?

    Or they believe that negligible numbers were influenced by the Russians?

    After all Clinton was doing a terrible job convincing the other side and fence sitters to vote for her. Calling voters "deplorables" is actually very unprofessional as a politician. Lying to voters and making promises you can't or even don't intend to keep is normal and near expected for politicians. Your job is to get elected.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:48PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 02 2023, @12:48PM (#1318725) Journal

      If he was warned against doing so or already knew that he shouldn't have done what he did then perhaps it was treason.../quote> Treason is such a flimsy excuse when you have a government this bad. It becomes an obligation not a crime.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 02 2023, @06:09PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 02 2023, @06:09PM (#1318799)
        Doesn't really matter what others call it. If you offend those truly in power you should do a Snowden and run to a country out of reach. preferably before you offend but otherwise ASAP.

        If you're gonna poke the bear, poke it with a very long stick from a different country. And don't drink the tea if its friends pay you a visit.
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 03 2023, @01:12AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 03 2023, @01:12AM (#1318882) Journal

          If you're gonna poke the bear, poke it with a very long stick from a different country.

          Or poke it hard enough to kill it, I suppose.

  • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday August 02 2023, @01:17PM

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday August 02 2023, @01:17PM (#1318733) Homepage Journal

    Ever since Trump was elected President and lost his re-election, the Republicans seem to have become like Trump's buddy Putin. Witness Florida. I've probably voted for more Republicans than Democrats, but that party will have to regain its sanity before I even vote for a Republican dog catcher.

    They're kind of like Sony, who were a good brand in the last century but are completely evil now.

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