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posted by janrinok on Friday September 20 2024, @01:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-spy-with-my-AI-eye dept.

https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9[paywalled].
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/09/omnipresent-ai-cameras-will-ensure-good-behavior-says-larry-ellison/

Larry Ellison (of Oracle) predicts a future of AI enabled mass-surveillance where everyone lives in a panopticon. Constantly watched and recorded by AI that reports all transgressions.

But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

Ellison's vision bears more than a passing resemblance to the cautionary world portrayed in George Orwell's prescient novel 1984. In Orwell's fiction, the totalitarian government of Oceania uses ubiquitous "telescreens" to monitor citizens constantly, creating a society where privacy no longer exists and independent thought becomes nearly impossible.

(Here's looking at you, kin?)


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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by fliptop on Friday September 20 2024, @02:10AM (10 children)

    by fliptop (1666) on Friday September 20 2024, @02:10AM (#1373519) Journal

    AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

    Who will monitor the behavior of the AI doing the surveilling? Another AI system? Humans? If the latter, who monitors them?

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    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @03:49AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @03:49AM (#1373532)

      No answer for your rhetorical question, but one thing I'm pretty sure about--Ellison, and maybe some of his rich buddies, won't be ones that are surveilled by these AIs.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Friday September 20 2024, @04:04AM (3 children)

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday September 20 2024, @04:04AM (#1373537) Journal

        I don't think all rich people are buddies. And I guess some of them would really like to watch some others of them. Mostly in order to redirect their money flow to themselves.

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @07:33AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @07:33AM (#1373549)

          Kinda like not all leaders are buddies...every one of em I have seen is scheming to get someone else's stuff. Once this is out, those who don't embrace using it will be eaten by those that do.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Revek on Friday September 20 2024, @11:43AM

          by Revek (5022) on Friday September 20 2024, @11:43AM (#1373585)

          Rich people only have and are asshole buddies. A asshole buddy will fuck you over in a second and try to laugh it off with you later that day.

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          This page was generated by a Swarm of Roaming Elephants
        • (Score: 2) by Lester on Friday September 20 2024, @04:30PM

          by Lester (6231) on Friday September 20 2024, @04:30PM (#1373628) Journal

          There is an old Spanish saying:

          Bulls don't hurt each other with horns

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DrkShadow on Friday September 20 2024, @04:13AM

      by DrkShadow (1404) on Friday September 20 2024, @04:13AM (#1373540)

      Psycho Pass.

      This is the whole premise of the story. It's honestly very worth watching the first series.

      Suppose someone can game the AI, prompt-injection-like, and can do... anything. Could they still be socially upstanding?

      What is the effect on everyone living under such a system?

      What if it's not just about predicting criminality, Minority Report-style, but about managing significant aspects of life, given all the available information, for the evidence-based optimal life? There are so many things that we just "do" -- without thinking about them. What if we let a machine think about them, and select the best choice for us?

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Hartree on Friday September 20 2024, @08:57AM

      by Hartree (195) on Friday September 20 2024, @08:57AM (#1373565)

      "Who will monitor the behavior of the AI doing the surveilling?"

      That service will be provided to the US government by Oracle Corporation under a sole source cost plus contract!

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday September 20 2024, @01:57PM (2 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Friday September 20 2024, @01:57PM (#1373609) Journal

      Who watches the watchers that are watching the other watchers?

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      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by krishnoid on Friday September 20 2024, @02:36AM

    by krishnoid (1156) on Friday September 20 2024, @02:36AM (#1373524)

    I was going to call out his buzzing San Jose after hours [cnet.com] in his MIG-29, but apparently he's been a bad boy in many other ways as well.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @03:55AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @03:55AM (#1373535)

    No one will mourn the day Larry croaks.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Samantha Wright on Friday September 20 2024, @11:54AM

      by Samantha Wright (4062) on Friday September 20 2024, @11:54AM (#1373587)

      I dunno. The Living Computer Museum getting broken up on the auction block is a bit of a drag, even if it wasn't a proper museum.

  • (Score: 2) by Ox0000 on Friday September 20 2024, @07:35PM

    by Ox0000 (5111) on Friday September 20 2024, @07:35PM (#1373655)

    Hey Larry, how about you show yours first?
    How about you make every single ting you do, all the time, available to anyone and everyone? Not just your public life, ALL OF IT, ALL THE TIME!

    Just making sure you're on your best behavior. Besides, ahum... if you aren't doing anything wrong, you should have nothing to fear, right?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @09:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2024, @09:04PM (#1373679)

    I wonder if this predicted future is something that will have a need for, say, database products

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