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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-the-people dept.

And the winner of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, as reported by the major mainstream media outlets is Donald Trump. It has also been reported that Hillary Clinton called President-elect Donald Trump to concede.

Electoral vote count (so far): 279 for Donald Trump, 218 for Hillary Clinton. 270 electoral votes are needed to win.

Popular vote: 57,227,164 votes (48.0%) for Donald Trump, 56,279,305 votes (47.2%) for Hillary Clinton. Update: Now it is closer to 59,085,795 votes (47.5%) for Donald Trump and 59,236,903 votes (47.6%) for Hillary Clinton.

Yell, scream, gnash teeth... but please keep it civil.

Results at CNN, NYT, FiveThirtyEight, Wikipedia.

takyon: Republicans have retained control of the House and Senate.

Here's some market news:

Dow futures plunge nearly 750 points as investors warily eye electoral map
Asian markets plummet on likelihood of Trump victory
Bitcoin price soars as Trump pulls ahead
Opinion: How to profit from a Donald Trump victory

Ballot measure results will be covered in an upcoming story. Some initial results can be found at Ballotpedia and CNN.

[TMB Note: Stop breaking stuff, cmn32480]

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:20PM

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:20PM (#424615)

    The term "flyover country" is reason alone for this giant middle finger to the coastal elites

    Close. If I've ever posted a link for people to read, this is perhaps the most important link I've ever posted: []

    Yeah Greer is kinda a weirdo but being a weirdo he has an outsiders view of the USA, and being a genius, possibly even smarter than me, however unlikely that is, his insights are always spot on. Yeah don't go to Greer for religious advice, for instance. But he's a freaking genius at sociology stuff like the essay I linked to. He also is the only environmentalist type I've met who actually knows biology and science and isn't just a religious nutter, which is ironic seeing as he's also a druid which normally would imply the opposite.

    No shit this is not a rickroll this is possibly the most informative link I've ever posted in my entire posting career.

    To summarize, because Greer does suffer from Moldbuggian levels of verbal diarrhea, its not so much a geography thing as a social class thing, and the "establishment globalist cronies" we've had for decades have told the white working class "F you" and have screwed them over and over again and it doesn't matter if they're in Boston or rural WTF-land they finally have a candidate who doesn't outright shit on them so they want a coronation for him.

    As an interesting side issue Greer is not a 1488 alt-right dude to say the least but in a weird display of convergent evolution I've heard less well formed versions of Greers argument from 1488 alt-right type podcasts as sort of the founding principles of theoretical alt right politics. Greers all "muh ecosystem" but its fascinating how convergent evolution leads him right to 1488 land. Its almost like reality has an inherent alt-right bias or as if the prog narrative is inherently a faulty dead god past its sell-by date. You'd almost think you're looking at reality instead of spin when multiple paths lead to exactly the same place, crazy that, isn't it?

    So if anyone ever read a post of mine and thought it wasn't complete crap, do me a favor and read Greer's essay I linked to above. I've never seen a better essay explaining the current political situation than Greers. Once in awhile that dude is just epic, for the ages, like people are going to read that essay 200 years from now to explain WTF was going on.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:35PM (#424680)

    I've been following that blog for a few months now and it was the reason that while I was still hoping for Trump to lose, I wasn't thinking it was guaranteed. I don't remember where I first ran across it, but it very well may have been you linking to it in a previous thread.

    I'd feel better about Trump winning for those reasons if I believed he was actually doing anything other than pandering. I highly doubt his polices will actually help the rural poor; he was just the only one actually talking to them.

  • (Score: 2) by AudioGuy on Wednesday November 09 2016, @09:22PM

    by AudioGuy (24) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @09:22PM (#424863) Journal

    That link is a spot on analysis of why Trump won.

    To understand HOW he won, go to [] and select 'blog'. Scott Adams called this step by step, pretty much 100%.

  • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:17PM

    by fritsd (4586) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:17PM (#424879) Journal

    Did you ever read his book "The Long Descent", about the slow collapse of civilizations?

    He's certainly weird, but I believe he's spot on when he describes the power and importance of story telling in civilizations.

    Nobody believes the fairy tale of "we will have economic growth and it will make everything better for everyone" anymore, I think.
    So we need fresh stories appropriate for our times. Hopefully not stories like "Giant Meteor: just end it all now".

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday November 11 2016, @01:29PM

      by VLM (445) on Friday November 11 2016, @01:29PM (#425661)

      He's certainly weird

      Yeah I got into his writings when "peak oil" was not accepted fact and I came into it from the side of petro/energy investor and geologist like about 99% of the people into "peak oil" when it was new, and he was a refreshing breath of fresh air WRT his weird perspective of having something like a self taught phd in ecology combined with woo woo druidic worship.

      So we need fresh stories appropriate for our times.

      He blog published a 25 part series on sort of a sci fi view of America in a century, pretty hard sci fi stuff, interesting, realistic.

      Also he has a bigger group of followers than SN has, maybe 10x bigger, and he's published collections of submitted stories about the future. He must be on his 4th or 5th collected stories book now. Interesting stuff. So if you have hard sci fi, and you exclude space aliens, star trek, utter apocalypse (usually) and the singularity, then you get his interesting collections.

      Off topic a fresh story would be something like Moldbug's writings.

  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Thursday November 10 2016, @12:03AM

    by RamiK (1813) on Thursday November 10 2016, @12:03AM (#424920)

    but in a weird display of convergent evolution

    That's no strange coincidence. As I'm sure you're well aware, some time ago, Germany's national socialists worker's party advocated on those same exact points and arguments using identical rhetoric. Even Trump's avoidance of economic plans and sticking to "points" is part of the strategy: It gives him the freedom to both privatize and nationalize industries and markets on a per-case basis.

    It's not necessarily wrong to use moves from that particular playbook. But going as far as demonizing illegals is playing with fire... Well, we'll see.