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posted by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @06:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the wonder-how-long-until-the-staff-gets-wiretapped dept.

Cory Doctorow at bOing bOing reports Newly disclosed documents from the trove Edward Snowden provided to journalists reveal the existence of the Nymrod database that listed 122 world leaders, many from nations friendly to the USA, that were spied upon by the NSA. Included in the list is German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was already known to have been wiretapped by the NSA thanks to an earlier disclosure. Nymrod's "Target Knowledge Database" combed through the NSA's pool of global intercepts to amass dossiers of private communications emails, faxes, calls and Internet traffic related to the leaders.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bucc5062 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:31PM

    by bucc5062 (699) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:31PM (#24429)

    I for one feel blessed that I am in the same rank as 122 world leaders as a person of interest by the NSA. To think that Chancellor Merkel and I have something in common to share whenever we meet. /s

    In a sad way, this just doesn't get old. When I was a child I read a book called Harriet the Spy. Harriet was quite good at her passion, spying on and writing down everything that her friends did along with other people of interest. It was all no issue until the day her journal/diary was discovered. Then all her friends turned on her and she was disliked for a long time.

    I loved that book and the lesson it tried to teach. A line that our government should act upon:

    Hearing of Harriet's troubles, Ole Golly writes to her, telling her that if anyone ever reads her notebook, "you have to do two things, and you don't like either one of them. 1: You have to apologize. 2: You have to lie. Otherwise you are going to lose a friend."

    I can accept that governments spy, mostly on enemies, but to do so to "friends" is just plain stupid and indicative of the power hunger Washington D.C has right now.

    As an American I feel a level of shame and embarrassment at the actions of some members of our government. Little to our current politicians understand that is is easy to lose respect, much much harder to gain it back. In some ways I feel these leaks are hurting the US yet I can accept them as both a punishment for our hubris and for the opportunity to "clean house".

    The more things change, the more they look the same
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  • (Score: 1) by starcraftsicko on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:11PM

    by starcraftsicko (2821) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @10:11PM (#24495) Journal

    #699 spake: I can accept that governments spy, mostly on enemies, but to do so to "friends" is just plain stupid and indicative of the power hunger Washington D.C has right now.

    You are just wrong on this. Bad organizations, bad governments, bad politicians, even genuinely evil agencies like the NSA -- even they sometimes do what they should. This is one of those times.

    Sovereign nations may be allies; they may be friendly; they may share interests; they may support similar policies; they may together use semicolons when they could have used commas -- but they have an interest in seeing that these good things continue and knowing when and why these things might change. Friendly nations have good reason to keep an eye (er... spy) on each other even if to make sure that they remain friendly.


    Nations spying on the leaders of other nations is not a crime against common sense or against international law and should not be counted amongst the crimes of the NSA.

    This post was created with recycled electrons.