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posted by janrinok on Monday October 19 2015, @05:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the upward-trend dept.

With another of his graphs derived from StatCounter data, blogger and Linux advocate Robert Pogson reports

It was only a few years ago that the sycophants of M$ were trumpeting that */Linux was struggling to reach ~1% share of the desktop anywhere. Many of those were in USA.

Well, the chickens have come home to roost in The Year Of The Linux Desktop. */Linux has ~5% share. Are we there yet? Nope. FLOSS is still going places and growing stronger every year. Classical GNU/Linux grew rapidly until mid-year when Android/Unknown and Chrome OS took up slack. It's all good.

I would have said "He who laughs last laughs best" but, hey, it's his blog.
...and remembering how Chromebooks dominated the sales figures last Christmas, I can't wait to see how the SteamBox sales go this Christmas.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by vux984 on Monday October 19 2015, @07:37PM

    by vux984 (5045) on Monday October 19 2015, @07:37PM (#251969)

    DOS was an "operating system" - the "disk operating system" to be precise.

    Sure. DOS is an operating system. And if DOS were "GNU/Linux" then the DOS part would be the hidden: io.sys and msdos.sys, and perhaps emm386.sys and himem.sys and that's about it. The GNU part would be most of what's in command.com (cd, mkdir, rd, set, path, the batch file processor) and all of the utilities (xcopy, deltree, edlin/edit...ie pretty much everything in the C:\DOS folder). You consider those a pretty integral part of the DOS operating system do you not? I know I do.

    Windows is even more ridiculous, if you wrapped a different user-land around the Windows Kernel, it wouldn't be "Windows".

    "Linux" the kernel project doesn't include any of that. GNU/Linux, like or not, really is the operating system. Its not like GNU is just emacs and . GNU is bash, grep, ls, cd, ps, man, chown, chmod, mkdir, tail. Not to mention the C standard libary, and GCC etc. You can't use Linux without GNU ... unless you replaced all the GNU stuff. Its not 'optional'. Maybe you've conflated GNU with GNOME or something? Because GNU/Linux without GNOME is still an operating system. But Linux without GNU... is not.

    I tend to call it linux myself because I'm lazy (aka normal), but I at least recognize that RMS is right. And I certainly don't get worked about about seeing it written in full GNU/Linux in an article on the internet.

    "Unix is an "operating system".

    Unix is more accurately a family of operating systems that share certain characteristics. I guess the same is true of Windows to a lesser degree, and even DOS is a family (DOS 3.0 vs DOS 6.22 etc) but Unix is even less specific.

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by fnj on Monday October 19 2015, @09:48PM

    by fnj (1654) on Monday October 19 2015, @09:48PM (#252067)

    You don't know shit. Command.com is part of DOS, just like sh is part of BSD. The utilities you mention are just what you called them - utilities. They are programs that run under an OPERATING SYSTEM.

    Iidiot mods.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 19 2015, @10:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 19 2015, @10:33PM (#252087)

      Are you that young that you have never heard of 4DOS or NDOS (drop-in replacements for MICROS~1's command interpreter)?

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Monday October 19 2015, @11:32PM

        by vux984 (5045) on Monday October 19 2015, @11:32PM (#252103)

        Yes, I know what those are, and even recall that you invoke them with SHELL=xxxxx in config.sys.

        But I fail to see your point? I can replace any arbitrary file in a linux install too with one of my own creation.
        Does that mean the original file wasn't part of the operating system?

        If that's your argument, well... no... that would be too stupid to be your argument... so what is your argument exactly?

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday October 19 2015, @10:50PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday October 19 2015, @10:50PM (#252090) Journal

      If command.com and sh are part of the OS, then bash is, too, because it fulfils the role of sh on Linux. And bash is GNU.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Monday October 19 2015, @11:26PM

      by vux984 (5045) on Monday October 19 2015, @11:26PM (#252097)

      Command.com is part of DOS
      just like sh is part of BSD

      Yes. And carrying on then... bash is part of Linux?

      But we get bash from GNU. So where are you going with this?

      The utilities you mention are just what you called them - utilities. They are programs that run under an OPERATING SYSTEM.

      The C standard library (itself used by the (sic) "OPERATING SYSTEM") is maintained by GNU. That's not a utility, nor a program.
      And those basic utilities... from attrib to xcopy -- yes they are part of the operating system. They aren't part of the 'kernel'. But they ARE absolutely part of the operating *SYSTEM*.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 19 2015, @10:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 19 2015, @10:30PM (#252085)

    That name which must not be spoken??

    -- gewg_