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NCommander
on Thursday April 10 2014, @05:40PM
from the if-we-accidently-implemented-something-we-promised-is-it-still-a-bug? dept.
from the if-we-accidently-implemented-something-we-promised-is-it-still-a-bug? dept.
I'm pleased to announce that moderate then post has now been implemented. In truth, its been implemented since the last major update due to a bug. Before releasing slashcode 14.04, I was experimenting with moderate^post code on dev, and the code was merged in with the basis that it would be enabled as part of the moderation reworks. Theoretically, this code should have been disabled. In actuality, I skewed a variable; the global that controls this functionality was not 100% properly implemented.
mrcoolbp noticed the bug today, and seeing as we needed a code change either way to properly fix it, I decided to roll this bit of the moderation rework out early. I'm not thrilled on squishing two bugs in production on the same day, and I'm going to be working with the dev team to get a rigorous QA plan put together (which will be posted here) before we do any more major updates to the site.
Until then, enjoy the new functionality.
NCommander adds: I'm giving this a one time bump on the main index as it was posted very late for US based users. We *really really* need a featured story feature.
mrcoolbp noticed the bug today, and seeing as we needed a code change either way to properly fix it, I decided to roll this bit of the moderation rework out early. I'm not thrilled on squishing two bugs in production on the same day, and I'm going to be working with the dev team to get a rigorous QA plan put together (which will be posted here) before we do any more major updates to the site.
Until then, enjoy the new functionality.
NCommander adds: I'm giving this a one time bump on the main index as it was posted very late for US based users. We *really really* need a featured story feature.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by MrGuy on Thursday April 10 2014, @03:28PM
I know I've seen a few moderators (including myself once) use the Post^Moderate as a kind of "undo" for moderation mistakes. Oops - I modded that Flambebait (-1) when I meant to do Interesting (+1). Rather than spend 2 additional modpoints undoing the damage, I could just post an "oops!" and have the moderation roll back. A hack, sure, but a WORKING hack (mostly - I still couldn't go an add my +1 Interesting, but at least I didn't waste mod points making things actively WORSE).
I think the change here is a very positive one, but I wonder if we could potentially combine with some kind of "Unmoderate" function, turning what was once a "useful unintentional behavior" into an actual feature - let me "undo" my moderation if it's in error (with a time limit, say, to prevent people from reclaiming modpoints after a discussion rolls off the first page).
(Score: 4, Informative) by NCommander on Thursday April 10 2014, @04:44PM
You can only moderate a comment once; the box still shows up but the moderation is silently discarded. (this isn't true for those with unlimited mod points, but that was one of the first things I disabled; the code still exists so if we ever need to mass moderate a discussion (i.e., millions of spams posts), we can temporarily re-enable it). There's also the security page, and the "bitchslap" script for mass moderations should we ever need them. Aside from testing though, these functions have never been used.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday April 11 2014, @02:18AM
Here's a thought about the unmodding-a-mistake thing, since post-to-unmod will no longer work:
For any post we've moderated, leave a dropdown visible (kinda the inverse of how the modbox disappears after it's been used) and have the sole option be "unmoderate" (or "undo moderation" if you prefer English :) That way we can undo a bad mod, and not only that, undoing just one won't undo them all (as was the case with the post-to-unmod method).
BTW for on /. for several months I found myself with unlimited mod points (at least, every time I got down to zero, 15 more instantly appeared), but I still could not multi-mod a post.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by NCommander on Thursday April 10 2014, @04:50PM
As for unmoderate, perhaps, but I'd have to think about it.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Thursday April 10 2014, @06:15PM
I have no problem with "un-moderate" but you should *not* get your modpoints back. If you made a mistake and would like to undo your moderation, you don't get a chance to re-do. This should discourage/prevent abuse, and encourage people to take care when clicking "moderate."
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 10 2014, @04:52PM
Well, the unmoderation by posting didn't give you your mod points back, and I don't think an explicit undo should. But otherwise, I think it's a good idea to be able to undo wrong moderations. If you don't get mod points back, I also see no need to limit the time frame.
An additional advantage of the requested explicit undo-moderation feature against the undo-by-post accidental feature is that undo-by-post always undid all moderations you did on a story, which is usually not what you want.