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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 22 2016, @02:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the competitors-become-kin dept.

Phoronix reports

The inaugural release of ubuntuBSD is now available, which the developers have codenamed "Escape From SystemD". [It] pairs the Ubuntu userspace with the FreeBSD kernel.

... This first ubuntuBSD beta release is based off Ubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf and the FreeBSD 10.1 kernel.

This Ubuntu+FreeBSD operating system ships with the Xfce desktop, is designed for both servers and desktops, and offers complete ZFS file-system support.

The project's SourceForge page
N.B. The ubuntuBSD Web Site link is currently a circular trip back to SourceForge.


[Additional coverage at softpedia. For the impatient/adventuresome here is a direct link to download the latest ISO (893.8 MB ubuntuBSD 15.10~BETA2-amd64.iso). -Ed.]

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:56AM

    by Arik (4543) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:56AM (#321415) Journal
    Yeah this is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of.

    If I want BSD I will get it from a source I trust.

    Why on Earth would I want to get BSD from a company that already loused up their own Linux distro with systemd, and then turns around and tells me to use their BSD to get rid of it?

    If they really wish to escape from systemd they should simply remove it. It's far from required, and the only reason it might one day become required is because of distros like Ubuntu fouling their codebase with it so eagerly. For the same lice to come out and claim to offer a way to escape the plague that THEY forced on their users to begin with like this is... chutzpah seems too weak.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:15AM

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:15AM (#321425) Journal

    As I understand it, Neither FreeBSD nor Ubuntu (Canonical) is involved.

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    • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Tuesday March 22 2016, @03:31PM

      by Pino P (4721) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @03:31PM (#321678) Journal

      If Canonical is not involved, watch the next article about this distribution be titled to the effect "ubuntuBSD Forced to Change Name".

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday March 23 2016, @06:20AM

        by frojack (1554) on Wednesday March 23 2016, @06:20AM (#321968) Journal

        That wouldn't surprise me at all.
        They've let some others slide, but I could see them moving against this.

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:20AM

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:20AM (#321428) Journal

    systemd-udevd or some eudev,vdev replacement is needed for X applications. Reverting to a sane init already helps, though.
    I once even removed parallel init, insserv iirc, I need to see if the card gets up, if not i gotta replug it in and looking at the dhcp handshake lets me do it in the FASTEST way.
    Different people, different needs.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Tuesday March 22 2016, @02:56PM

      by Arik (4543) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @02:56PM (#321649) Journal
      You don't have to replace anything if you simply choose one of the many Linux distros that don't use systemd to begin with.

      I recommend Slackware because that's what's given me the best results but there are plenty of choices; http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Free.2FOpen_Source_Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation
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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Francis on Tuesday March 22 2016, @07:48AM

    by Francis (5544) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @07:48AM (#321457)

    Perhaps they really love gnu, but hate Linux.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:30AM (#321491)

      That person is already running GNU Herd.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:38AM (#321493)

        *Hurd

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @02:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @02:59PM (#321652)

          *Turd

        • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:09PM

          by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:09PM (#321694)

          Yeah, you can't really call one person a herd.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday March 22 2016, @12:05PM

      by VLM (445) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @12:05PM (#321551)

      Lots of GNU stuff runs great on freebsd. Just for big apps I roughly daily use emacs, R, ...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @09:51PM (#321847)

        Yes it's a simple matter of installing the GNU utilities from ports then aliasing ls to gls and tar to gtar etc. Should be less than an hour's work.

      • (Score: 1) by Francis on Wednesday March 23 2016, @12:36AM

        by Francis (5544) on Wednesday March 23 2016, @12:36AM (#321900)

        It doesn't make much sense to me as it looks like the worst of both world. You get the inconsistent userland of Linux without the complete compatibility with Linux programs and drivers.

        I assume that some people have a reason for doing it, but it doesn't make much sense to me to use a BSD kernel with a non-standard userland.

        • (Score: 1) by Arik on Wednesday March 23 2016, @02:43PM

          by Arik (4543) on Wednesday March 23 2016, @02:43PM (#322099) Journal
          Well if I wanted to run the GNU utilities on BSD I would install BSD first and then compile GNU and install it. And you can do that, it's been awhile but as I recall it's not that big a deal. Should be a lot faster with a modern processor underneath the compiler too.

          I don't think I'd do that today though. I'd just install BSD and start working with it, and expect to add a bit of GNU here and there when I run into a *reason* that I need it.

          The main reason I quit running BSD years ago was because of advances in the linux kernel, not because of userland which is after all easily modified. The main reason I'd consider returning would be if the linux kernel does become systemd dependent. But as much as systemd folks like to think it already is - it is not. There are lots of linux distros that function perfectly without it.

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