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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 22 2016, @08:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-gonna-create-our-own-mistakez! dept.

There's a new operating system that wants to do away with the old mistakes and cruft in other operating systems. It's called Redox OS and is available on GitHub. It's aimed at creating an alternative OS that is able to run almost all Linux executables with only minimal modifications. It features a pure ecosystem using the Rust programming language which they hope will improve correctness and security over other OSes. They are not afraid to prioritize correctness over compatibility. The philosophy being that "Redox isn't afraid of dropping the bad parts of POSIX while preserving modest Linux API compatibility."

Redox levels harsh criticisms at other OSes, saying "...we will not replicate the mistakes made by others. This is probably the most important tenet of Redox. In the past, bad design choices were made by Linux, Unix, BSD, HURD, and so on. We all make mistakes, that's no secret, but there is no reason to repeat others' mistakes." Not stopping there, the Redox documentation contains blunt critiques of Plan 9, the GPL, and other mainstays.

Redox OS seems to be supported on the i386 and x86_64 platforms. The aims are microkernel design, implementation in Rust language, optional GUI — Orbital, newlib for C programs, MIT license, drivers in userspace, common Unix commands included, and plans for ZFS.

They want to do away with syscalls that stay around forever and drivers for hardware that, for a long time, simply isn't possible to buy any more. They also provide a codebase that doesn't require you to navigate around 25 million lines of code like Linux.

Perhaps the mathematically proven L4 microkernel is something to consider over the monolithic kernel approach where any single driver can wreck the system? One aspect to look out for is if they map the graphic cards into user space.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday March 22 2016, @01:53PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @01:53PM (#321594) Journal

    You want to be taken seriously? Remove the endless bitching and critique. Most people interested in new OS designs are well aware of the existing crap designs (hint: they all suck save for Plan9/inferno). Their manifesto reads like the pipe dream of a bunch of know-it-all kids.

    This is more akin to a bunch of guys in a bar, drunk, and boasting of plans to climb mt. Everest. They all agree that they want to do it, but once they realize the scale of the journey, they abandon it. I don't exactly have high hopes. Writing a completely new OS takes an enormous amount of passion and drive.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 22 2016, @04:57PM (#321716)

    (hint: they all suck)


    plan 9 is better than most operating systems, but like all software, it sucks

    also rob pike can't into user interfaces

    seriously rob what the hell are you doing, stop it

    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:23PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday March 22 2016, @05:23PM (#321738) Journal

      plan 9 is better than most operating systems, but like all software, it sucks

      A cat-v reader I see. But in all seriousness, it does suck from a user standpoint as well. However, the underlying architecture is clean and lightweight while 9p and the VFS enable an amazing level of distribution of resources. It doesn't get better than that.

      also rob pike can't into user interfaces

      So you're saying he accidentally the user interface then.