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posted by cmn32480 on Friday August 12 2016, @09:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the but-how-do-you-fix-it dept.

The Guardian reports on a new study which has found that

The world of speculative fiction publishing is plagued by "structural, institutional, personal, universal" racism, according to a new report that found less than 2% of more than 2,000 SF stories published last year were by black writers.

The report, published by the magazine Fireside Fiction, states that just 38 of the 2,039 stories published in 63 magazines in 2015 were by black writers. With the bulk of the industry based in the US, more than half of all speculative fiction publications the report considered did not publish a single original story by a black author. "The probability that it is random chance that only 1.96% of published writers are black in a country where 13.2% of the population is black is 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000321%," says the report.

The editor of Fireside Fiction goes on to say...

"Fiction, we have a problem. We all know this. We do. We don't need numbers to see that, like everywhere in our society, marginalisation of black people is still a huge problem in publishing ... The entire system is built to benefit whiteness – and to ignore that is to bury your head in the flaming garbage heap of history."


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  • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Friday August 12 2016, @10:08PM

    by jdavidb (5690) on Friday August 12 2016, @10:08PM (#387206) Homepage Journal

    like everywhere in our society, marginalisation of black people is still a huge problem in publishing

    Wow, this is like saying everybody is guilty. Can the problem be identified and discussed without being disrespectful and judgmental towards huge classes of people?

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 12 2016, @10:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 12 2016, @10:31PM (#387213)

    Nope. That's how religion works. Everyone's a sinner. Beg for forgiveness, sinner.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday August 12 2016, @11:59PM

      by VLM (445) on Friday August 12 2016, @11:59PM (#387264)

      There's some pretty interesting political theory in the alt-right along the lines of progressive SJW stuff is malignant puritanism. Its pretty interesting to learn about. It seems a provably useful predictive model, better than the progressives own narrative you get from their owned sources.

      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday August 13 2016, @02:43AM

        by Reziac (2489) on Saturday August 13 2016, @02:43AM (#387337) Homepage

        "malignant puritanism" ... polite term for a cult. I like it.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2016, @02:52AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2016, @02:52AM (#387341)

          "malignant puritanism" ... polite term for a cult. I like it.

          Well, at least it is not Mormon.

      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:56PM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:56PM (#387529) Homepage Journal

        There's some pretty interesting political theory in the alt-right along the lines of progressive SJW stuff is malignant puritanism

        You might enjoy reading Murray Rothbard's analysis of Hillary Clinton and her Methodism [lewrockwell.com].

        For reference purposes, Rothbard was an atheist Jew and wasn't right wing.

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    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:41PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:41PM (#387520) Homepage Journal

      Everyone IS a sinner, even the Pope, but nobody has to beg for forgiveness. Forgiveness was granted to everyone two thousand years ago. To be forgiven you only have to accept that forgiveness.

      And that's just my religion, Christianity. The Hindus and Buddhists have no forgiveness in their religions, they have reincarnation and karma.

      And what about Satanists?

      Foolish atheists.

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      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday August 13 2016, @04:01PM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday August 13 2016, @04:01PM (#387532) Homepage Journal

        The Jewish perspective on forgiveness [beingjewish.com] is interesting reading.

        FWIW, I'm a Christian.

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        • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday August 24 2016, @03:46PM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday August 24 2016, @03:46PM (#392617) Homepage Journal

          Interesting, especially considering that Jesus was Jewish and said "none are good, save God Himself". I don't know where the "born into sin" idea comes from, except that sinners beget sinners and Adam was a sinner. If there's a bible passage that says we are born sinners, I must have missed it somehow.

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          • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday August 24 2016, @04:31PM

            by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday August 24 2016, @04:31PM (#392648) Homepage Journal
            Psalm 51 is considered by many to teach that, and so are some other passages. I don't agree, though; I agree with you.
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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2016, @12:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2016, @12:25AM (#387282)

    > Wow, this is like saying everybody is guilty.

    No its not. Your choice to take offense at an accurate description of the black experience is nothing more than your choice.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:53PM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:53PM (#387526) Homepage Journal

      I am all for an accurate description of the black experience. It is possible to describe problems without being disrespectful to everyone who is white.

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