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posted by CoolHand on Monday August 29 2016, @01:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the it-takes-all-kinds dept.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html?_r=0

WE progressives believe in diversity, and we want women, blacks, Latinos, gays and Muslims at the table — er, so long as they aren't conservatives. Universities are the bedrock of progressive values, but the one kind of diversity that universities disregard is ideological and religious. We're fine with people who don't look like us, as long as they think like us.

O.K., that's a little harsh. But consider George Yancey, a sociologist who is black and evangelical. "Outside of academia I faced more problems as a black," he told me. "But inside academia I face more problems as a Christian, and it is not even close."

I've been thinking about this because on Facebook recently I wondered aloud whether universities stigmatize conservatives and undermine intellectual diversity. The scornful reaction from my fellow liberals proved the point.

"Much of the 'conservative' worldview consists of ideas that are known empirically to be false," said Carmi. "The truth has a liberal slant," wrote Michelle. "Why stop there?" asked Steven. "How about we make faculties more diverse by hiring idiots?"

To me, the conversation illuminated primarily liberal arrogance — the implication that conservatives don't have anything significant to add to the discussion. My Facebook followers have incredible compassion for war victims in South Sudan, for kids who have been trafficked, even for abused chickens, but no obvious empathy for conservative scholars facing discrimination.

The stakes involve not just fairness to conservatives or evangelical Christians, not just whether progressives will be true to their own values, not just the benefits that come from diversity (and diversity of thought is arguably among the most important kinds), but also the quality of education itself. When perspectives are unrepresented in discussions, when some kinds of thinkers aren't at the table, classrooms become echo chambers rather than sounding boards — and we all lose.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @07:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @07:34PM (#394887)

    And because of the 1%* you are willing to war with the 99%? Or persecute them? If you're not willing to go to war or eliminate the Muslims, then what are you trying to achieve**? Tell people to go about hating them? How is that going to help? You yourself should know how well Islam handles haters. If you war with them it's literally a gift of God to the extremists. They'll be able to get more of the "more moderate" to follow them.

    Can't we use your same arguments and reasonings about Muslims against human males too? Speaking as a male, more than 70% of terrorists are males. The percentage of terrorists being males is higher than the percentage of terrorists being Muslims. Most of the violent stuff is done by males. Most of the mass murderers are males. More of the crazy nutters are males. Most of the evil dictators are males. A lot of the pioneering and great stuff is done by males too, but from the species perspective, we don't need that many males to keep the species going. So using your arguments perhaps we should start concentrating on eliminating the bad ones from the gene pool. You don't have to kill them, just sterilize/castrate every violent offender, every single murderer, rapist and robber or genocidal sociopath (no need to sterilize me - I don't ever intend to breed). Then the rest of the better domesticated human males can go spend their time making love and not war, got to keep the species alive you know ;). Go look up on how a species is domesticated (not the same as tamed). There's evidence that humans are one of those species that can be domesticated, however we aren't that well domesticated due to haphazard breeding.

    * p.s. I know way more than 1% are extremists. I live in one of those Muslim countries where more than 70% of them stupidly want Sharia law.
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/#sharia-as-the-official-law-of-the-land [pewforum.org]
    And more than 60% of those that want Sharia Law are in favor of killing apostates: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/#penalty-for-converting-to-another-faith [pewforum.org]

    ** p.p.s. Assuming you're in the USA if you want to kick the Muslims out of your country perhaps you should first ask why your country has been repeatedly screwing up the Muslim world. Many of those countries weren't under the control of Islamists till your country messed them up. Given your country shares a lot of responsibility for the mess, it's your country who should actually take in a lot of Muslims refugees.

    While you're at it go ask why your country is such great friends with the evil Saudi Arabia. They have a habit of looking for bad ways of interpreting Islam and implementing it. I'm not saying overthrow them but wow you and your friends are actually selling them arms and they go on to sell/give them to extremists (don't tell me your government doesn't know what happens to them, it's just like your gov somehow "not knowing" why the ISIS has so many Toyota trucks).