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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday September 28 2016, @03:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the stuffing-the-ballot-box dept.

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Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night.

The efforts originated from users of the pro-Trump Reddit community r/The_Donald and 4chan messaged boards, which bombarded around 70 polls, including those launched by Time, Fortune, and CNBC.

In this latest incarnation, multiple Reddit users enlisted the Trump-supporting masses on r/The_Donald, which has over 200,000 subscribers, by posting dozens of online polls that are vulnerable to vote brigading, bots, and other forms of manipulation that make these non-scientific surveys notoriously unreliable.

Polls that were not open to public voting consistently put Clinton ahead of Trump. In a flash poll by Public Policy Polling, Clinton led Trump 51 to 40. A CNN/ORC poll conducted immediately following the debate found significantly stronger support for Clinton, who topped Trump 62 to 27.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 28 2016, @07:00AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 28 2016, @07:00AM (#407252)

    My takeaway was 'even' with trump 'slightly' up. The really up polls kinda shocked me. As the mood right after was 'even' slightly in favor of trump. Then I heard they were all online polls. Which means they all can pretty much be taken and thrown away. They are dead easy to manipulate. I never saw it more clearly than when a co-worker put up an online poll. There were maybe 40 people in the whole office. We had well over 200k votes. The guy who manipulated it almost got fired over it. But the idea was clear and to the point, online is easy to manipulate. However, CNN oversampled by 20% for democrat. Even in the best of the best projections that is nowhere near reality. So even the ones where there was little input from the public were manipulated.

    The only poll that counts at this point is the one we all will make in a month or so.

    The news has a vested interest in making things 'seem' close. Even if they are not. This is their Christmas. All the money is flowing in right now. They are so far wrapped up in it they basically skipped the big thing in NY a week or so ago to talk about ... Trump.

    Also 'pepe' and 'alt-right' are the narrative the Clinton group is pushing. Last week it was 'liar'. Forgot what the week before that was. They change strategies so fast it is hard to keep up. Guess this week it is 'pepe' again with even the ADL coming out that pepe is a hate thing.

    Most people at this point have 'picked'. The 5-10% or so that have not at this point either will not vote or were waiting for the debates to be finished. That means the debates have little influence on anything other than to give the media more points for their dudes to pontificate over. Expect non-stop hours of poring over every eyebrow wipe and its deeper meaning within the matrix.

    For me the big one was 'NAFTA and TPP is the gold standard'. That will be hard for her to work around esp in the blue color world. They have watched everything they grew up with and built evaporate. I have watched over the past 15 or so the white collar world starting to go the same route. It is clear this group wants to give even more power and money to multi national corps to do whatever they want and play arbitrage games with laws.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 28 2016, @01:25PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday September 28 2016, @01:25PM (#407367) Journal

    For me the big one was 'NAFTA and TPP is the gold standard'. That will be hard for her to work around esp in the blue color world. They have watched everything they grew up with and built evaporate. I have watched over the past 15 or so the white collar world starting to go the same route. It is clear this group wants to give even more power and money to multi national corps to do whatever they want and play arbitrage games with laws.

    I believe this is the core of why Trump will win. Hillary is in the pockets of the multi-nationals, and everyone knows it. Everyone in the United States who is not a hedge fund manager knows it and feels the ground eroding beneath their feet. They're afraid, and can perceive the danger of TPP the way a herd scents the smoke from a distance wild fire on the breeze.

    In truth the hedge fund managers, media moguls, and all of the Clinton cronies and puppetmasters should be rooting for Trump to win, because it would throw the 99% a bone and stave off the guillotine, and because Trump really won't change the status quo that much. If they rig this election for their own darling Hillary, then she won't get more than two years into her term before it all falls apart and they are dragged kicking and screaming from their armored SUVs by angry mobs.

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    Washington DC delenda est.