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posted by n1 on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the politics dept.

After announcing his company was abandoning Unity for GNOME, Shuttleworth posted a thank-you note to the Unity community Friday on Google Plus, but added on Saturday:

"I used to think that it was a privilege to serve people who also loved the idea of service, but now I think many members of the free software community are just deeply anti-social types who love to hate on whatever is mainstream. When Windows was mainstream they hated on it. Rationally, Windows does many things well and deserves respect for those. And when Canonical went mainstream, it became the focus of irrational hatred too. The very same muppets would write about how terrible it was that IOS/Android had no competition and then how terrible it was that Canonical was investing in (free software!) compositing and convergence. Fuck that shit."

"The whole Mir hate-fest boggled my mind - it's free software that does something invisible really well. It became a political topic as irrational as climate change or gun control, where being on one side or the other was a sign of tribal allegiance. We have a problem in the community when people choose to hate free software instead of loving that someone cares enough to take their life's work and make it freely available."

Shuttleworth says that "I came to be disgusted with the hate" on Canonical's display server Mir, saying it "changed my opinion of the free software community."

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:51AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:51AM (#492070)
    Mir is GPLv3, which is about as non-proprietary as it gets.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:08AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:08AM (#492102)

    Except I wasn't talking about Mir, but Ubuntu in general. Ubuntu tolerates proprietary software and includes it. You know, since he spoke about how Windows and Canonical got hate once they went mainstream, as if that's the actual reason. But ignore that part.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:23AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:23AM (#492110)
      You can rip all of the proprietary software out of Ubuntu and still have a very much usable system if your hardware does not require any non-Free drivers.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:28AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @03:28AM (#492111)

        Irrelevant. It's bad enough that they include proprietary software; they have to set an example by not doing so. By tolerating non-free software, they show that they are not truly opposed to it and therefore are not friends to the free software community. Just being better than Microsoft and their ilk is not enough.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @04:15AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @04:15AM (#492124)

          Not friends to RMS, you mean.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:56AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:56AM (#492149)

            No, to the free software community. Free software advocates see proprietary software as unethical. For "open source" advocates, that may or may not be the case. That's the main reason for using the term "free software".

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:19PM

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:19PM (#492366) Journal

          Even Debian tolerates non-free software. They may discourage it, but they still tolerate it. And, depending on your precise definition of free, they even have some in their repositories.

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      • (Score: 2) by EETech1 on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:05AM

        by EETech1 (957) on Tuesday April 11 2017, @05:05AM (#492143)

        Debian?