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Over at MSFN Forums, user 'harkaz' has described a simple 3-step method of applying newer Microsoft updates to Windows XP operating systems.
He says: "The constraints are entirely artificial. Porting is easy as 1-2-3 ... So Windows XP can have semi-official support until 2019!"
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by mcgrew on Sunday May 18 2014, @03:27PM
i'm kind of shocked that people are so desperate to keep XP 'alive'
I'm shocked that Microsoft is stopping security updates for an OS that 1/4 of web surfers use only seven years after brand new computers came with it preinstalled.
Chevy could never get away with saying that a factory defect that could put your 2006 car into a tree is okay, why can Microsoft get away with not fixing dangerous factory defects (bugs) that threaten the entire internet?
What is the old widow living on Social Security with a perfectly functioning computer supposed to do? She obviously can't install an operating system or afford to have one installed, let alone replace a perfectly good machine with a new one.
is it really that expensive to buy hardware supporting Win7? the laptop i'm using now was $300 back in 2012 and it is able to run even recent-ish games like Skyrim just fine.
Some of you guys have no concept of what poverty is like, apparently. $300 may be easily affordable to me and chump change for you, but for a vast number of people, three hundred dollars is half a month's income.
What about the environmental impact of millions of PCs becoming purposely obsoleted?
I'm responsible for my car's wear and tear, as I'm responsible for my computer's wear and tear, but I'm not responsible for my ten year old car's factory defects, nor should I be held responsible for Microsoft's factory defects.
what might be the best move for MS would be to simply release XP to open source and let the community continue supporting it
I agree, but don't hold your breath. It won't happen, Microsoft is simply irresponsible and doesn't care about the internet's health.
Impeach Donald Saruman and his sidekick Elon Sauron
(Score: 2) by emg on Sunday May 18 2014, @07:42PM
"only seven years after brand new computers came with it preinstalled."
Seven years? You could certainly buy netbooks with XP preinstalled in 2010/2011.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 18 2014, @09:00PM
Where? Because after Win 7 came out the only XP netbooks I saw were NOS still left in the warehouses and if you go by that logic then you could buy Vista in 2010 since i saw NOS Vista systems in 2010.
BTW as a user of the Internet? if you have hardware capable of running Win 7 (I would put the minimum at a late model P4 and 1.5GB of RAM) and you really can't afford a copy of Win 7 or a cheap Win 7 box on craigslist? Then please pirate it, having a bunch of zombie XP boxes infecting the net doesn't do anybody any good.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 1) by Hawkwind on Monday May 19 2014, @04:03PM
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Monday May 19 2014, @04:47PM
That was the date the contract expired, didn't have anything to do with how long they actually shipped the units. if you want to go by that MSFT allows OEMs to ship the previous version for 2 years after the next release but i seriously doubt there was a flood of Vista boxes in 2011. They allowed XP to go past the cutoff by a year because Vista simply would not run on an Atom single core, hell I'd argue pretty much NO OS ran on those first gen Atom chips worth a shit.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 1) by Hawkwind on Monday May 19 2014, @05:52PM
Wait, seems like you have some knowledge about this so maybe you can help me parse this. So just one part of the linked item:
"To ensure customers receive their XP orders prior to the October 22, 2010 deadline, Dell will begin removing XP as an option in September. There will be three options for your IT Staff to consider: (1). Complete your migration to Windows 7. Dell offers several services that can assist you with compatibility testing and deployment (2). Use the XP media to Hand Install XP onsite (3). Incorporate CFI services to assist your XP image loads. Please ensure that your organization has selected a strategy and that your account executive is fully aware of how you want to proceed."
The piece seems to be talking about Dell partners buying computers with XP.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Monday May 19 2014, @06:50PM
That is corporate which often has mission critical applications that require an older OS and therefor is far from typical. Please note the "IT staff" part which indicates this is for large orgs which will most often have site licensing which means they can use any OS from MSFT ever created regardless of support. I don't know if its still the case but when I was working corp a few years back and had an MSDN I could download and use Win 3.11 WFW if I so chose, the images and tools were provided. As for the third that stands for "custom factory images" which if you are buying large amounts (typically 500+) you can have a custom image with the OS of your choice and drivers premade by Dell.
So this isn't for the street, its for large orgs and the consulting firms that support them. I have been there myself, I had to keep NOS (new,old stock) desktops with Win2K until 2012 for a graphics design house which was using custom imaging tools that required Win2K and the farthest I have had to go back was building a DOS 3 CNC out of my first gamer rig (we builders are packrats and if it works we are loathe to toss) in 2007 for a lumber mill that had an $80K computerized lathe that wouldn't run on anything else. Just as I doubt you would consider what I was doing "proof of continued sales" even though I was functioning as an OEM and VAR so too does these large orgs buying XP boxes for backwards compatibility not reflect what was being sold on the street.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 1) by Hawkwind on Monday May 19 2014, @11:52PM
Cool - thanks!
(Score: 2) by tathra on Sunday May 18 2014, @07:46PM
and some of you guys have no concept of just how fast computer prices job, and what the environmental impact would be of buying a used or simply old computer to keep it from going into a landfill.
nowhere did i say, "man, i can't believe these people are too poor to spend $300!" i was pointing out that 2 years ago, this thing was already pretty cheap as far as computers go, so today it'd probably be $50-100. and hell, even if thats not possible, why are you letting these people off the hook for being irresponsible and unable to save? since when cant people set aside $20 a week, or hell even each month, for a new computer? because its "not essential"? then they shouldn't have a computer in the first place since its so "non-essential". if they bought a computer that ran XP, i have little doubt they spent a lot more at that time than it would cost to buy a computer running Win7 today.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Sunday May 18 2014, @07:49PM
ugh, lack of caffeine.
"just how fast computer prices job" should be "just how fast computer prices drop". how the hell did i mess up that bad.