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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the and-the-side-effects-are.... dept.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has given its approval for Phase 3 trials to treat participants with PTSD using MDMA ("ecstacy"):

The non-profit Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) today announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted Breakthrough Therapy Designation to MDMA for the treatment of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). MAPS and the FDA have also reached agreement under the Special Protocol Assessment Process (SPA) for the design of two upcoming Phase 3 trials (MAPP1 and MAPP2) of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for patients with severe PTSD.

MDMA-assisted psychotherapy is a novel treatment package that combines psychotherapeutic techniques with three administrations of MDMA as a pharmacological adjunct. By granting Breakthrough Therapy Designation, the FDA has agreed that this treatment may have a meaningful advantage and greater compliance over available medications for PTSD.

The first Phase 3 trial (MAPP1), "A Randomized, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, Multi-Site Phase 3 Study of the Efficacy and Safety of Manualized MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy for the Treatment of Severe Posttraumatic Stress Disorder," will begin enrolling subjects in Spring 2018, after the completion of an open-label lead-in training study at Phase 3 sites starting this fall.

[...] The Phase 3 trials will assess the efficacy and safety of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy in 200-300 participants with PTSD, aged 18 and older, at sites in the U.S., Canada, and Israel. Participants will be randomized to receive three day-long sessions of either MDMA or placebo in conjunction with psychotherapy over a 12-week treatment period, along with 12 associated 90-minute non-drug preparatory and integration sessions. The primary endpoint will be the Clinician Administered PTSD Scale (CAPS-5), as assessed by a blinded pool of independent raters.

In MAPS' completed Phase 2 trials with 107 participants, 61% no longer qualified for PTSD after three sessions of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy two months following treatment. At the 12-month follow-up, 68% no longer had PTSD. All Phase 2 participants had chronic, treatment-resistant PTSD, and had suffered from PTSD for an average of 17.8 years.

Also at ScienceAlert, the Washington Post, and Science Magazine:

Since 2012, FDA has designated close to 200 drugs as breakthrough therapies, a status that indicates there's preliminary evidence that an intervention offers a substantial improvement over other options for a serious health condition. The agency aims to help develop and review these treatments faster than other candidate drugs.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:44PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:44PM (#561493)

    What will they re-invent next? Maybe therapy combined with LSD as successfully trialed (by Tim Leary and others) in the early 1960s?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:48PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:48PM (#561494)

      nah, it'll go mainstream and be used to make more people completely delusional. see the 'news' on doping populations with oxy and watch 'brave new world'; things you liked used against you. oh yawn.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:22PM (#561509)

        It's not mainstream enough until kids can buy it out of a vending machine just like caffeine.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:55PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:55PM (#561499)

      Too lazy to cite, but I vaguely recall some research somewhere indicating that symptoms of depression appeared immediately following administration of LSD. Given how much it messes with serotonin, it sounded reasonable. That will likely put a damper on any future research on LSD as a kind of therapy, at least without some kind of pairing with SSRIs of some sort after the "session".

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Scottingham on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:42PM

        by Scottingham (5593) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:42PM (#561518)

        That's odd, I've heard the exact opposite with LSD. Though I too am too lazy to cite.

        Are you perhaps confusing it with the after-effects of MDMA? That is definitely associated, especially in an uncontrolled setting with an unknown dosage, symptoms of depression.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:25PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:25PM (#561532)

        Too lazy to cite, but I vaguely felt the symptoms of thinking you're a dumbass set in after reading your comment.

        • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:26PM

          by edIII (791) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:26PM (#561739)

          Oh no. I think it's contagious.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:07PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:07PM (#561548) Journal

        You're thinking of MDMA, the very drug this story is about. To counter that, you take 5-HTP [wikipedia.org] to restore serotonin levels.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:58PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:58PM (#561502)

      In the 1980s, Leary became fascinated by computers, the Internet, and virtual reality. Leary proclaimed that "the PC is the LSD of the 1990s" and admonished bohemians to "turn on, boot up, jack in".

      Radical, man! What's his github, and I want to fork his repo.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by RamiK on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:21PM (2 children)

        by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:21PM (#561508)

        This was years before personal computers. Not only was the hardware needed to run Unix too expensive to be within an individual's reach, but nobody imagined that would change in the foreseeable future. So Unix machines were only available by the grace of big organizations with big budgets: corporations, universities, government agencies. But use of these minicomputers was less regulated than the even-bigger mainframes, and Unix development rapidly took on a countercultural air. It was the early 1970s; the pioneering Unix programmers were shaggy hippies and hippie-wannabes. They delighted in playing with an operating system that not only offered them fascinating challenges at the leading edge of computer science, but also subverted all the technical assumptions and business practices that went with Big Computing. Card punches, COBOL, business suits, and batch IBM mainframes were the despised old wave; Unix hackers reveled in the sense that they were simultaneously building the future and flipping a finger at the system.

        http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch02s01.html [faqs.org]

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:35PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @02:35PM (#561511)

          Linux is the establishment and systemd is the flipping finger. Countercultural enough for you?

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:23PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:23PM (#561555)

            I realise that you're being jocular, but:

            honestly, systemd is more like the establishment trying to worm its way into Linux. "It's too hard for the Marketing department guys! Just ... make all that complexity go away! Like Microsoft!"

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:42PM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:42PM (#561566) Journal

      It could be used to treat depression and alcoholism. [theguardian.com]

      It's going to be slow going when it comes to getting any mainstream acceptance of hallucinogens. Many U.S. states and countries have legalized cannabis for medical purposes and that is still sitting on the joke that is Schedule I. LSD is too scary, see headlines like:

      Is marijuana really as dangerous as heroin and LSD? Finally, a welcome legal review [latimes.com]

      Marijuana remains a Schedule 1 drug - just like heroin and LSD - judge rules [dailynews.com]

      Look out for the "heroin and LSD" journalist meme when you read articles like this. You'll start seeing it a lot.

      As we should know by now, LSD is about as far away from dangerous as you can get [ias.org.uk]. Maybe you'll knock something over and get hurt. You probably won't jump out of a window.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @05:31PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @05:31PM (#561594)

        As well it should. The burden of proof here is on the proponents to prove that the substance is safe enough and effective enough for a given use. We're long past the point where there was enough need for new treatments and a lack of resources for studying them.

        Ultimately, the people who claim without research to back it that these things are safe and effective are just as bad as the people who think we should ban all use, including research, without a body of evidence to point to.

        Alcoholism and such are serious issues, but they're also not completely without treatment available either.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday August 30 2017, @06:04PM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @06:04PM (#561614) Journal

          Schedule I is a research killer. [soylentnews.org]

          MAPS has been working with MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, etc. Very slowly. Because of the barriers to research that come with being on Schedule I. There have already been studies that have found evidence that LSD can be used as a treatment. Safety of LSD is well established.

          The Controlled Substances Act is unscientific. The Schedule I criteria are completely arbitrary.

          "The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse." = anything they want it to mean.

          "The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States." = also broad enough to ignore accepted medical uses, and it's difficult to get additional research done because of Schedule I.

          "There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision." = anything they want it to mean.

          The burden of proof is for proponents to prove to the FDA that a drug can be a safe and effective treatment. The DEA and Controlled Substances Act are shit and should be eliminated. It would save money and lives.

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  • (Score: 2) by Snow on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:17PM (10 children)

    by Snow (1601) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:17PM (#561528) Journal

    I did MDMA once. It was at some festival called Shambala in BC.

    It didn't really do anything for me. My wife did some as well and she was fucked up. She started hearing voices and said that everyone was shit-talking her behind her back (they weren't). It lasted for a couple weeks and we went to the doc over it. For like 2 weeks she couldn't even go to the supermarket. Thankfully it went away, but I was really worried for a while.

    It didn't really do anything for me though. I had a very faint headache/pleasure feeling, but nothing crazy. Felt like shit the next day though. Totally drained, both physically and emotionally. It was as if someone drained the life from me. Lasted for a couple days and then things were normal.

    That being said, I would definitely try it again given the right opportunity.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @03:27PM (#561533)

      [quote]That being said, I would definitely try it again given the right opportunity.[/quote]

      "That being said"? That which was said has to be the worst supporting argument I've ever read.

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:00PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:00PM (#561544) Journal

      The only time i smoked pot was in college: a viet nam vet grew his own (so i'm guessing not that strong). Shared a joint with him and 3 others.
      Felt NOTHING.
      He brought over another joint a day later and smoked it with me.
      Nothing.
      The next day, he brought over another with a ball of snot (he said was hash: i'm hoping it was NOT snot, lol) that he put into the joint.
      One puff and i was GONE.

      All i remember is having MAJOR MUNCHIES and eating $20 worth of crap (this would be mid-late 80's where $20 bought a crap load of crap-food: you could buy candies for 1cent).
      Felt awful after.

      That's why i stuck with alcohol.
      Now, gettting off the alcohol as well.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:29PM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @04:29PM (#561556) Journal

      MDMA is notorious [hightimes.com] for being faked [stuff.co.nz] or mixed with other shit. That's not propaganda but on the ground reality, which has led to the emergence of testing on the scene at festivals [dancesafe.org]. You really don't know what you and your wife had (unless you really do). This is as good of a reason as any to say "I would definitely try it again given the right opportunity" since might not know if you did it a first time.

      LSD is also easy to fake since at least an order of magnitude more drug than needed can be fit onto a blotter and there are a family of compounds [wikipedia.org] that are very similar to LSD but with different total durations and dosages. It's hard to say that fake means bad here - if Albert Hofmann had synthesized a different chemical first, maybe that would be the drug of the 60s and the LSD molecule would be the unknown mimic drug. Whooooaaa, man. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here. Maybe LSD is easier to synthesize than other similar drugs.)

      I imagine mushrooms or peyote would be hard to fake - as in substitute with another drug. However, my understanding is that peyote [wikipedia.org] takes years to grow from seed to fleshy cactus.

      Cannabis is probably not faked. It could be adulterated or sprayed with pesticides/etc., but the influx of legal options means that there is a lot of (government?) verified weed out there and at least some amount of the supply is "bespoke" organic weed made by people who are health conscious, opportunistic, or both.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @06:23PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @06:23PM (#561627)

      She started hearing voices and said that everyone was shit-talking her behind her back (they weren't).

      I'm shit-talking you behind your back, Snow. This is AC talking. I'm always shit-talking you behind your back, Snow.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @07:22PM (#561657)

        You now hear the screaming forever.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @08:10PM (#561682)

      Apart from the reasons given by takyon, did you even do MDMA ("molly")? It's usually sold as small crystals of clear to brown-tinged colour, while Ecstasy/XTC is sold as pills. The crystal form of "molly" makes it hard as fuck to dose right, you can of course eyeball it by dipping your wet finger in it, but a precision scale is recommended - especially for a first-timer/casual user with low threshold/tolerance.

      Do you have an idea of how much you and your wife took? MDMA, while relatively safe, can be neurotoxic at very high levels. So while you may have gotten a typical effect for a first timer (none), maybe your wife had way too much?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @07:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @07:30PM (#562264)

      y'all got some bullshit. probably wasn't even X from the symptoms you describe. try to get good shit next time, ffs.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @05:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @05:34PM (#561597)

    "MDMA-assisted psychotherapy is a novel treatment package that combines psychotherapeutic techniques with three administrations of MDMA as a pharmacological adjunct."

    This isn't likely to end like the opioid sad story which makes chronic addictions.

    This appears to be limited to 3 single doses as an aid to PTSD counseling.

    Additionally, the drug is a generic.

    Perhaps the FDA did a good thing?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @07:36PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @07:36PM (#562269)

    mdma is pretty damn safe for the benefits it gives for ptsd/rape counseling. i wouldn't have waited on the fucking whores as the fda to use it for therapy, but at least they are finally doing something right.

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