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posted by chromas on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:12AM   Printer-friendly

Huawei may have a backup OS in case it has to drop Android

It'd be hard to blame Huawei executives if they're feeling very nervous lately. The US has created havoc for ZTE by renewing an export ban over trade violations, potentially depriving it of its Android license and leaving it without a platform. How would Huawei avoid a similar fate? Simple: it would use its own operating system instead. South China Morning Post sources have claimed that Huawei has been developing its own mobile operating system (there are reportedly tablet and PC equivalents) ever since it and ZTE faced an American investigation in 2012. It's considered an investment for "worst-case scenarios," the insiders said.

The company hasn't released this OS because it isn't up to Android's level of quality and app support, the sources added.

Huawei hasn't confirmed or denied the software's existence, saying only that it "has no plans" to launch an in-house OS in the "foreseeable future" -- if there is one, there's no rush to use it. There was a purported meeting leak in 2012 that referenced a new platform.

See also: ZTE and the Unknown Unknowns

Related: U.S. Intelligence Agency Heads Warn Against Using Huawei and ZTE Products
Huawei CEO Still Committed to the U.S. Market


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by tekk on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:23AM

    by tekk (5704) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:23AM (#673971)

    I bought an Xperia X specifically to run Jolla's Sailfish OS. Real multitasking, pretty, and it's an actual Linux system (Wayland+Qt+glibc+busybox.) Runs smoothly, way lighter than Android, if you license it from Jolla you get android compatibility (I'm not sure how it works techically speaking, whether it's a reimplementation of the android APIs or just a port of the android runtime to normal Linux systems,) so they may or may not be able to use it.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by KiloByte on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:47AM

    by KiloByte (375) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:47AM (#673976)

    My Gemini [indiegogo.com] is finally on its way from factory to Europe; I don't plan to boot Android even once. I wonder how phone stuff will work in practice.

    This one has a full-blown physical keyboard that Huawei's devices lack, but you don't need to ship an off-the-shelf distribution unmodified.

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    Ceterum censeo systemd esse delendam.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by drussell on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:49AM (6 children)

    by drussell (2678) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:49AM (#673978) Journal

    Weird... The US "powers that be" are being idiots and forcing others to develop their own solutions?

    I don't like Huawei or ZTE and have never purchased their hardware, nor do I intend to anytime in the near future, but if the US wants to shoot itself in the foot by alienating everyone and everything on the planet, I say... good luck and good riddance!

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:54AM (3 children)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @12:54AM (#673980)

      You're forgetting that Trade Wars™ are good, and easy to win.

      • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Tuesday May 01 2018, @01:14AM (1 child)

        by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 01 2018, @01:14AM (#673983) Journal

        Right up until the point where the other side starts to react. Then they aren't so easy to win. And also not so good - but we've digressed already. What were we saying again?

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:33AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:33AM (#674059)

          > What were we saying again?

          You may have blinked and skipped a news cycle. Mr. Zombie was sarcastically quoting some idiot. [twitter.com]

      • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:20PM

        by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:20PM (#674242)

        Hell yeah Trade Wars [wikipedia.org] is a good thing.

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:50AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:50AM (#674027) Journal

      Weird... The US "powers that be" are being idiots and forcing others to develop their own solutions?

      It would not be the first time - see "Chinese exclusion policy of NASA" [wikipedia.org].
      As results:
      - the Chinese started to develop their own technologies and space programs (pushed out from ISS - develops a space station on its own [wikipedia.org]).
      - China remained and established other such collaborations with Europe and Russia (for Moon and deep-space) [gbtimes.com] (to the point of Russia considering dropping out with US and focusing on China [popularmechanics.com]).

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:56AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:56AM (#674028) Journal

      I don't like Huawei or ZTE and have never purchased their hardware, nor do I intend to anytime in the near future, but if the US wants to shoot itself in the foot by alienating everyone and everything on the planet, I say... good luck and good riddance!

      Google Pixel and Pixel XL were manufactured by HTC [wikipedia.org], which... wait for it... is the westernalized name for "宏達國際電子股份有限公司". True, Taiwan is not quite mainland China... (yet. It will be unfortunate when it will be, but I think it's inevitable on long run)

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mendax on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:13AM

    by mendax (2840) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:13AM (#674032)

    I don't know about you but the Android operating system is a nasty beast. There may be room for another major mobile operating system. The question is would it get any traction?

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Arik on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:17AM (4 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:17AM (#674033) Journal
    "The company hasn't released this OS because it isn't up to Android's level of quality and app support, the sources added."

    Wow. Android doesn't even ship with gcc or make, and this is even *worse?*

    I'm trying to imagine how that could be possible.
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    If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:36AM (3 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @04:36AM (#674038) Journal

      It's pirated Win10 Phone, duhhhh

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by Arik on Tuesday May 01 2018, @07:29AM (2 children)

        by Arik (4543) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @07:29AM (#674066) Journal
        Are you thinking of "WinCE?"

        Named after the facial expression of anyone trying to use it, no doubt.
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        • (Score: 2) by quacking duck on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:28PM (1 child)

          by quacking duck (1395) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @03:28PM (#674167)

          You really have to wonder why big organizations come up with long names without ensuring their likely abbreviations don't have bad or unintended connotations... *especially* in the "native language" of the organization.

          Microsoft once released the Critical Update Notification Tool... I mean, seriously?

          I'm also thinking that time the then-newly merged right-wing party in Canada called themselves the Canadian Conservative Reform Alliance. They didn't have the brains to think ahead and realize "party" would inevitably be tacked on the end, even if not part of the official name, so of course they became known as CRAP even after they quickly changed the official name.

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:33PM

            by Arik (4543) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:33PM (#674251) Journal
            "I mean, seriously?"

            Well they had to release her. Continuing to keep her chained in the basement wasn't going to end well.

            "so of course they became known as CRAP even after they quickly changed the official name."

            Wouldn't that be CCRAP though? C-CRAP? CANADIAN CRAP.

            I can't imagine why they weren't a big hit.
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            If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
  • (Score: 3, Informative) by iWantToKeepAnon on Tuesday May 01 2018, @01:34PM (3 children)

    by iWantToKeepAnon (686) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @01:34PM (#674126) Homepage Journal
    Vanilla Android is open source, so why not fork it and forget about a license? Of course they'd have to support the whole thing themselves, but they'd have to do that w/ a home grown os anyway. What's stopping them?
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    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:00PM (1 child)

      by darkfeline (1030) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:00PM (#674233) Homepage

      I am confused too. Android is FOSS, so it's not like the US can do anything to stop Huawei, at least not without setting groundbreaking precedents (what's to stop the US from banning export of Linux then?)

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:41PM

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday May 01 2018, @06:41PM (#674255) Journal

        Linux was originated and developed by a Finn. The beauty of Open Source is that it's out there for everyone. Someone decides to stop developing X and market paid version Y? Just, fork the original. Sure, the US could do something Really stupid and try to block freely available software, but again that would be really stupid.

        We import Linux and / or it belongs to the world and / or whatever you want to call Open Source, etc.

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        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by toddestan on Wednesday May 02 2018, @03:23AM

      by toddestan (4982) on Wednesday May 02 2018, @03:23AM (#674429)

      It wouldn't surprise me at all if they are doing just that. Most of the development work would involve replacing things like the Google Play Store and perhaps some of the Google apps which they presumably would not have access too. It's also likely they wouldn't be able to use the Android trademark and would have to call it something else, which could be the source of the confusion.

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