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posted by martyb on Friday July 13 2018, @12:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the pass-it-on dept.

On a python developers' mailing list for the core developers, Python Committers, Benevolent Dictator for Life Guido van Rossum has announced that he is stepping down effective immediately and with out appointing a successor.

Now that PEP 572 is done, I don't ever want to have to fight so hard for a
PEP and find that so many people despise my decisions.

I would like to remove myself entirely from the decision process. I'll
still be there for a while as an ordinary core dev, and I'll still be
available to mentor people -- possibly more available. But I'm basically
giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL, and you all will be on
your own.

After all that's eventually going to happen regardless -- there's still
that bus lurking around the corner, and I'm not getting younger... (I'll
spare you the list of medical issues.)

I am not going to appoint a successor.

[...] I'll still be here, but I'm trying to let you all figure something out for
yourselves. I'm tired, and need a very long break.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @04:33AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 14 2018, @04:33AM (#706936)

    DeathMonkey, how many times have you been "asked" by an employer to "train" a womyn in programming who had no aptitude for it whatsoever? What if a vendor outright lied about the capabilities of their product to your employer?

    A unexpected mother who hadn't paid attention in math class since kindergarten? I've tried it. Guess what? Programming is a mathematical discipline. Somebody who would much rather be retired, spending time with her large family, and is instead being forced to work due to the systematic theft of wealth from the working class facilitated by policies that the DNC supports? Guess what? One requires something other than the slavedriver's whip of capitalism over her head to learn programming. I risk mentioning them because they at least quickly understood they were in over their heads, it was not something they wanted to do, and the vendor was full of shit.

    Now add in high turnover, and this is something I frequently had the opportunity to do.

    Now you will proceed from the assumption that I have not demonstrated capability of mentoring a person who possess a womb in programming, thus indicating some problem with my bathroom mirror. Well, I have demonstrated that capability. In fact, you'll never believe it, but I even helped her report one of her (male) supervisors for sexual harassment simply because it was the right thing to do. She must have had at least some measure of trust in me to even talk to me about it. Head exploding yet?

    You will not understand why right now, but it will become apparent to you with sufficient hindsight in a decade or two that it was this exact hubris and dismissal of authentic, lived experience that was responsible for Trump and the overturning of Roe v. Wade. You simply refuse to listen. Perhaps when Roe v. Wade is overturned you will begin listening, but it is doubtful.

    You are an apologist and enabler for women who can't even overcome their reactionary attitudes for long enough to keep their beloved music festival open []. And MWMF is only one example of the many diverse flavors of reactionary attitudes held by women. Another attitude some have is taking the epistemological position of silence, completely rejecting the idea that the world is knowable. Others find the epistemological position of received knowledge the most comfortable; men will tell them what to think, and they will think, "Trump! Trump! Trump!" And the polling data proves this empirically.

    Do you understand that reactionary feminists are vocal and not shy about physical confrontation? D you understand what it's like being cornered and physically intimidated in a place of work by people who are taller than you? Do you understand what it's like being sexually harassed, repeatedly, without having any power to stop it? Do you even understand what it is like when somebody physically stronger than you forcefully grabs you and attempts to fondle your breasts in order to sexually humiliate you?

    No, I don't think you do. Let me guess. You find the idea a turn-on and you're getting hard just thinking about it, thus committing a basic error of chauvinism in your analysis. Chauvinism causes the error of believing that a sexual harassment victim secretly enjoyed it, and it causes you to sympathize with the abuser because you fundamentally do not understand why the victim would ever object to such a thing in the first place. At least we have established that DeathMonkey is a male chauvinist who cannot imagine thinking with an organ other than his WJC.

    Or maybe some folks just read some of the comments on sites like this...

    I think I have enough experience with women to dismiss your concern. Maybe you should get out of your mother's basement some time and meet some women face to face.

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