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posted by martyb on Friday July 13 2018, @12:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the pass-it-on dept.

On a python developers' mailing list for the core developers, Python Committers, Benevolent Dictator for Life Guido van Rossum has announced that he is stepping down effective immediately and with out appointing a successor.

Now that PEP 572 is done, I don't ever want to have to fight so hard for a
PEP and find that so many people despise my decisions.

I would like to remove myself entirely from the decision process. I'll
still be there for a while as an ordinary core dev, and I'll still be
available to mentor people -- possibly more available. But I'm basically
giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL, and you all will be on
your own.

After all that's eventually going to happen regardless -- there's still
that bus lurking around the corner, and I'm not getting younger... (I'll
spare you the list of medical issues.)

I am not going to appoint a successor.

[...] I'll still be here, but I'm trying to let you all figure something out for
yourselves. I'm tired, and need a very long break.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by pvanhoof on Saturday July 14 2018, @04:57AM (2 children)

    by pvanhoof (4638) on Saturday July 14 2018, @04:57AM (#706940) Homepage

    This is with debugging symbols (see the dbg part of the package's name):
    -r--r--r-- 1 root root 552M Mar 2 05:31 linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64-dbg_4.9.82-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb

    Not really fair. Debugging symbols can be huge.

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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday July 14 2018, @06:25AM (1 child)

    by jmorris (4844) on Saturday July 14 2018, @06:25AM (#706962)

    Totally fair. The kernel has bloated up too. For a point of comparison, lets look at Red Hat Linux 4.2 on the InfoMagic CD set I mentioned.

    RedHat Linux 4.2: 196.4MB
    Contrib Packages: 215.8MB
    Errata: 134.9MB
    Total: 547.1MB

    So yea, the debug symbols for the fricking kernel being bigger than the entirety of Red Linux 4.2 is a bad thing. For another point of comparison, the entire source tree for RHL4.2 is only 320MB. You could develop on the kernel with a hard drive less than a GB because that is all people generally had in that time period. Now you have problems getting a bare bones install running in a GB of space without going with an embedded distribution and will probably end up with busybox or some bogosity. I had Linux with X and Netscape running on a laptop [] with a 320MB hard drive and 20MB of RAM. I actually did WORK on that machine in Applixware. On a dual P-133 with a 850MB drive and 64MB of RAM I could build a kernel in a reasonable time. Now you think a half GIG of -zipped up- debug symbols is reasonable and unremarkable?

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by bitstream on Saturday July 14 2018, @07:01PM

      by bitstream (6144) on Saturday July 14 2018, @07:01PM (#707277) Journal

      Computers get better. Corporations sponsor ever crappier programmers. ;)