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posted by martyb on Tuesday July 01 2014, @01:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the quantum-reality-is-just-classical-reality-in-really-tiny-bits? dept.

For nearly a century, "reality" has been a murky concept. The laws of quantum physics seem to suggest that particles spend much of their time in a ghostly state, lacking even basic properties such as a definite location and instead existing everywhere and nowhere at once. Only when a particle is measured does it suddenly materialize, appearing to pick its position as if by a roll of the dice. This idea that nature is inherently probabilistic -- that particles have no hard properties, only likelihoods, until they are observed -- is directly implied by the standard equations of quantum mechanics. But now a set of surprising experiments with fluids has revived old skepticism about that world-view. The bizarre results are fueling interest in an almost forgotten version of quantum mechanics, one that never gave up the idea of a single, concrete reality.

In a groundbreaking experiment, the Paris researchers used the droplet setup to demonstrate single- and double-slit interference. They discovered that when a droplet bounces toward a pair of openings in a damlike barrier, it passes through only one slit or the other, while the pilot wave passes through both. Repeated trials show that the overlapping wavefronts of the pilot wave steer the droplets to certain places and never to locations in between — an apparent replication of the interference pattern in the quantum double-slit experiment that Feynman described as "impossible ... to explain in any classical way." And just as measuring the trajectories of particles seems to "collapse" their simultaneous realities, disturbing the pilot wave in the bouncing-droplet experiment destroys the interference pattern.

Droplets can also seem to "tunnel" through barriers, orbit each other in stable "bound states," and exhibit properties analogous to quantum spin and electromagnetic attraction. When confined to circular areas called corrals, they form concentric rings analogous to the standing waves generated by electrons in quantum corrals. They even annihilate with subsurface bubbles, an effect reminiscent of the mutual destruction of matter and antimatter particles.

How about it Soylentils. Is there anyone here who groks Quantum Mechanics who would care to explain this in layman's terms? What shortcomings and/or benefits do you see with this theory?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by kebes on Tuesday July 01 2014, @08:44PM

    by kebes (1505) on Tuesday July 01 2014, @08:44PM (#62685)
    For what it's worth, I agree with you. Branching of the wavefunction is real, and the various branches are equally real/valid; in other words, I fully accept that the 'many worlds' interpretation is probably correct [preposterousuniverse.com]. (I also agree that 'many worlds' is an unfortunate name for this interpretation; something like 'globally persistent superposition' would be less misleading.) I didn't want to get into MWI in detail in my previous post, because it's a much more subtle and controversial issue. (And the results of decoherence are valid independent of one's interpretation/framework.)

    OTOH, this is mere belief. There is no testable difference between this and the Copenhagen (Shut up and calculate) theory...

    It is indeed usually said that the Copenhagen interpretation (CI) is experimentally and mathematically indistinguishable from other formulations. But I think it's a bit more subtle than that.

    CI is indeed indistinguishable from other interpretations, if one is careful about how one describes it. However, I will note that many (sloppy) descriptions of it will claim that the wavefunction collapses at some size-scale. I.e. that QM is correct for small-scale systems but that wavefunction collapse always happens well before we get to macroscale systems. They are making a physical claim of some sort of non-deterministic physical process. In these formulations, one can experimentally falsify the claim by trying to generate ever-larger superpositions. And experiments done on ever-larger systems have yet to find a point at which a superposition cannot be maintained. So these collapse claims have been falsified (no one still seriously expects to find a size-scale at which quantum effects cannot operate.)

    Of course there are CI descriptions that are more careful; and essentially say that the math of QM is all perfect, but just say that you shouldn't reify any of the theory's internal quantities. Which is fair enough.

    But even this may not be the whole story. Experimentally, one can keep trying to generate larger and larger superpositions. One could even imagine a radically-challenging experiment wherein a human test subject is isolated and put into a superposition, such that the external experimenters can satisfy themselves that the person is, indeed, superposed. When the person is removed from the experiment (and becomes entangled with the rest of the universe), they will only remember a single sequence of events, but the experimenters will have experimental evidence that the subject was actually in a superposition. This would essentially falsify CI and support MWI. Or rather, the results can be explained in the framework of CI only in a very strained way; whereas they are precisely what MWI predicts. Similarly, you could in principle gather enough data to go looking for the influence of other branches (which, as you note, can still improbably interfere with our branch). Finding such correlations would support MWI and again be hard to explain in CI (which claims that the other branches don't exist).

    Of course these proposed experiments are probably too difficult to carry out for real. But there may be a sense in which, at least in principle, some interpretations of QM are actually experimentally different.

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