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posted by mrpg on Saturday July 21 2018, @01:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the moo dept.

Soon, your soy milk may not be called 'milk'

Soy and almond drinks that bill themselves as "milk" may need to consider alternative language after a top regulator suggested the agency may start cracking down on use of the term.

The Food and Drug Administration signaled plans to start enforcing a federal standard that defines "milk" as coming from the "milking of one or more healthy cows." That would be a change for the agency, which has not aggressively gone after the proliferation of plant-based drinks labeled as "milk."

FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb talked about the plans this week, noting there are hundreds of federal "standards of identity" spelling out how foods with various names need to be manufactured.

"The question becomes, have we been enforcing our own standard of identity," Gottlieb said about "milk" at the Politico event Tuesday. "The answer is probably not."


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by choose another one on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:06PM (12 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:06PM (#710435)

    > What about the sheep and goats?

    And the people. Doesn't anyone think of the children any more?

    Actually I think baby feeds are not allowed to be called "baby milk" unless they are actually made of milk - why they are called "baby formula" instead, and I think that applies in USA too.

    I really don't understand the vegan milk/cheese/bacon/sausage/burger brigade - I get why you might want to not eat animal products, but not why you would then want to eat food that is named the same as animal products. Seems a bit like claiming you are anti-car and then insisting your bicycle is actually a car, or saying you are anti-gun and then carrying a replica everywhere and insisting it's actually an AR15.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:16PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:16PM (#710440)

    Goat milk is extracted from goats, and soy milk is extracted from soy, so baby milk is...?

    This kind of thing was a problem for Gerber's baby food in Africa. Cans of food sold in Africa normally have pictures of the food. (picture of corn on a can of corn, picture of green beans on a can of green beans, etc.) Gerber baby food had pictures of babies.

    Admittedly, "baby formula" isn't much better. It sounds like something used to create babies. Eeeeeew. I'm not feeding THAT to my baby.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @05:17PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @05:17PM (#710490)

      It sounds like something used to create babies. Eeeeeew. I'm not feeding THAT to my baby.

      But, it has everything a growing baby needs... :0

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by acid andy on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:33PM (5 children)

    by acid andy (1683) on Saturday July 21 2018, @03:33PM (#710449) Homepage Journal

    but not why you would then want to eat food that is named the same as animal products

    Vegan here. But I share your point of view, more or less. The thought of so called "mock meats" make me want to gag. I am OK with non-dairy drinks being presented as "milks" though. It's probably down to the fact that I was veggie for quite some time before I went the whole, err, cob! I do have a convenient rationalization for this behavior developed afterwards though: as a mammal it's perfectly natural to enjoy drinking milks (and yeah trolls, I'm already perfectly aware there's a similar argument about it being natural as an omnivore to eat meat!). I'd consider drinking human milk if it was fully consensual and pasteurized. Why don't they sell human milk in stores to feed babies?

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by schad on Saturday July 21 2018, @05:10PM

      by schad (2398) on Saturday July 21 2018, @05:10PM (#710488)

      Why don't they sell human milk in stores to feed babies?

      Well, you have to pay humans, whereas you don't have to pay cows. Thus human milk would be considerably more expensive.

      With that said, it is possible to buy human milk, and some people do. I mean, nursemaids were a thing: women who breastfed children that weren't their own. Nowadays, with the advent of breast pumps, freezers, and next-day shipping, they're more likely to bottle and sell their milk instead. There's not a huge market for it, but the market that exists is willing to pay a lot for the real deal.

      The things you learn when you don't want to feed your kid soy-based formula!

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 21 2018, @06:08PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 21 2018, @06:08PM (#710515) Journal

      I'd consider drinking human milk if it was fully consensual and past your eyes.

      FTFY

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      • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday July 21 2018, @06:33PM

        by acid andy (1683) on Saturday July 21 2018, @06:33PM (#710522) Homepage Journal

        Oh, that old chestnut! They're more like fruit actually. Big, round, bouncy chest fruit.

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    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday July 22 2018, @02:27AM (1 child)

      But directly, not in stores

      Women who express too much sell it to women who don't express enough

      If a lady keeps using a breast pump she cab lactate for quite a lot longer time

      A friend of mine did so while her daughter awaited a kidney transplant

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by choose another one on Sunday July 22 2018, @10:17AM

        by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 22 2018, @10:17AM (#710704)

        Correct, and it is also donated [some places at least]. Milk banks collect from donors and distribute, just as blood banks do for blood.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:08PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:08PM (#710463)

    I really don't understand the vegan milk/cheese/bacon/sausage/burger brigade - I get why you might want to not eat animal products, but not why you would then want to eat food that is named the same as animal products.

    Because many people are vegans/vegetarians for ethical reasons. Fake meat and so on do not pose an issue for them.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:49PM

      by acid andy (1683) on Saturday July 21 2018, @04:49PM (#710479) Homepage Journal

      Actually, there's something I forgot to add, and it was more or less the opposite of what you just said.

      It was that I suspect that most of the vegans that want to eat imitation meats just adopted it as a fad diet, where they still desire meat to eat but attempt to avoid it with the aim of losing weight or improving their health.

      Good job this isn't Hacker News -- that place seems to be full of fad dieters for some reason!

      I'm not saying that ditching or reducing your consumption of animal products can't be a healthier option, just that there are a lot of dieters that blindly follow trends without really understanding any of the science behind a diet.

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    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Saturday July 21 2018, @08:53PM

      by looorg (578) on Saturday July 21 2018, @08:53PM (#710562)

      Because many people are vegans/vegetarians for ethical reasons. Fake meat and so on do not pose an issue for them.

      But why can't they call it what it is then? Soy-milk or Quorn-meat (or whatever that mushroom thing is called/spelled again). Fake products should note and acknowledge their "fakeness" so it isn't confused or mixed up with the real product.