Microsoft open-sources its patent portfolio
By joining the Open Invention Network, Microsoft is offering its entire patent portfolio -- with the legacy exception of its Windows and desktop application code -- to all of the open-source patent consortium's members.
Before Microsoft joined, OIN had more than 2,650 community members and owns more than 1,300 global patents and applications. OIN is the largest patent non-aggression community in history and represents a core set of open-source intellectual-property values. Its members include Google, IBM, Red Hat, and SUSE. The OIN patent license and member cross-licenses are available royalty-free to anyone who joins the OIN community.
This is maybe the biggest Microsoft news since Microsoft "acquired" The Linux Foundation nearly two years ago in Nov 2016.
Also at Ars Technica.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 10 2018, @11:04PM
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday October 10 2018, @11:05PM (2 children)
Is this irrevocable?
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @02:51AM (1 child)
According to the FSF's statement [fsf.org]:
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday October 11 2018, @02:58AM
So, Extend, Embrace, Sue.
Nice.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 10 2018, @11:55PM (1 child)
I don't want your patent for systemd.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 11 2018, @03:33PM
How about a patent for a method and system to perform an OS update without deleting users data.
An OS update that deletes users data is okay. But the way to do an OS update without deleting users' data is patented.
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Blymie on Thursday October 11 2018, @12:43AM (5 children)
One day soon, we may wake up to the announcement that Microsoft Linux Version 1.0 is ready for download. Two versions, one for The Cloud (and customized for Azure), and one for the desktop.
The desktop version will have Word (hey, if they can port/release an SQL server...), and a variety of other apps. Including Microsoft's Solitaire.... and be free, with revenue generated from their app store.
Soon after, we may wake up to everyone running this "Linux Thing" that "Microsoft Invented", it's so COOL...
/me shudders.
Yet, it may very well come true...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday October 11 2018, @12:52AM
I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened yet: shows you how slow MS moves.
Yes, I agree it will happen, just when.
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(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 11 2018, @12:54AM (1 child)
Very possible, because Windows doesn't make them much money outside the business sector. Since Linux is free...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @02:06AM
windows as a service prolly a couple of years away.
(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Thursday October 11 2018, @08:42AM
I'll stick to Linux releases without "telemetry."
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @10:48AM
It won't be called Linux. It'll be called 'Visual L++' and will add all kinds of proprietary enhancements.
Linus will then sue Microsoft, and Microsoft will be ordered to discontinue the product and will be enjoined from making any Linux products in future.
A couple of years later Microsoft will release the U# operating system with the .LET framework.
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday October 11 2018, @01:03AM (3 children)
So no more Microsoft tax on every Android sold? Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday October 11 2018, @01:32AM (2 children)
Probably dependent on every single hand held manufacturer and whether they are also a member.
I just scrolled through the members shown here:
https://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about-us/members/ [openinventionnetwork.com]
and only saw two mobile phone manufacturers.
Google
Sony
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday October 11 2018, @08:26AM (1 child)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday October 11 2018, @09:40AM
Wasn't really aware of them. Their phone doesn't appear to exist yet, although there is a pre-order button, it's basically a gofundme/kickstarter looking page. for $599 you can hope for one in April 2019.
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Looks like they roll their own OS based on Linux rather than using Android anyway.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 11 2018, @01:39AM (1 child)
All the largest corporations agree not to sue each other. But, the little guy with a cool idea? Fair game to all members.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday October 11 2018, @08:39AM
But the dinosaur in the room is the "exception of its Windows and desktop application code" - which is probably about 99.9% of microsoft's IP.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @02:27AM (1 child)
The benefits of this move, aside from PR and spin, are negated by their Azure Advantage program [pcworld.com].. There are two reasons for that. The first is that OIN only applies to patents that Microsoft is granted. If a non-practicing entity, nominally a patent troll, waltzes in with their own patent, OIN cannot help. The second reason is that Microsoft is in the practice of off-loading patents, a method known as "spring licensing [redmondmag.com]". That means that when Microsoft sells off a patent grant, they add in a clause indemnifying their own customers and only their own. Who is left to attack then? Non-Microsoft cutomers. How can OIN help? It can't because Microsoft sold the patents. Can't anyone counter sue, especially for cross-licensing? Nope, these are non-practicing entities. The have no reason to and even if they did they have no tangible assets being just a shell company. If you fight you lose money and if you win in court, the shell company vanishes in a cloud of greasy black smoke and you're still out your money.
Joining OIN would have been a great symbolic move well before Azure. Now it is just Microsoft finding a clever way to fuck with Free and Open Source software users while getting positive PR from the obsequious and ignorant trade press.
So yeah pull the other one, Bill, it's got bells on it.
(Score: 4, Informative) by maxwell demon on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:54AM
Even before, it would not have been a great symbolic move:
In other words, OIN is actively harmful to Linux.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 11 2018, @04:37PM
Never trust them.